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3 minutes ago, oldunclemark said:

Trust me....DG......$212 mil over 6 years

I love your stubbornness but honestly we can't even offer that yet. He still could not make all NBA then what would you say? Does he re-sign then? Do we wait til he is a free agent or trade him before he is able to just walk?

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Just now, Colts_Fan12 said:

For sure I hate the Lakers too :(

Yeah I love Magic though haha.I like him when he played. I enjoyed he and Bird both, just 2 great players. Hard to believe the Clippers have never took advantage of the gift they got with CP3 deal. They have CP3, Griffin, Jordan, Crawford, and Redick over the last 5 years and cant even make a Conference Final! Paul George did that twice with Roy Hibbert lmao 

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Just now, dgambill said:

I love your stubbornness but honestly we can't even offer that yet. He still could not make all NBA then what would you say? Does he re-sign then? Do we wait til he is a free agent or trade him before he is able to just walk?

You and I both believe Paul George will be 2nd or 3rd team all-NBA as he has been the last 2 years he played

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1 minute ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Yeah I love Magic though haha.I like him when he played. I enjoyed he and Bird both, just 2 great players. Hard to believe the Clippers have never took advantage of the gift they got with CP3 deal. They have CP3, Griffin, Jordan, Crawford, and Redick over the last 5 years and cant even make a Conference Final! Paul George did that twice with Roy Hibbert lmao 

Them and Detroit suck they both are 2 big reasons we don't have a championship.

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I'm a big lakers fan....all the way back to Wilt..

...Elgin Baylor..Gail Goodrich....Jamaal Wilkes. James Worthy..Michael Cooper..all the way

But they have not been that franchise for 4 years now

The hottest thing they've got going right now is Jeannie Buss

 

,, they are buried in the west..and every NBA team is trying to get the same 3 or 4 free agents (if they opt out) ....again...the Lakers are the 13th seed in the west. Light years from contending

Paul George joining a non playoff team and rejecting the biggest contract in NBA history is just not likely

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1 minute ago, oldunclemark said:

You and I both believe Paul George will be 2nd or 3rd team all-NBA as he has been the last 2 years he played

Possibly but I don't think he deserves it. I got 1st team Lebron and Durant 2nd team Leonard and Davis 3rd team butler and the Greek freak. Honestly those guys have been better but it's possible PG gets it but I'm not a betting man like Larry is evidentially. That all said I think trading PG for the Brooklyn picks and getting a player from Boston we would be better than with PG in 3 years time. My honest opinion.

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1 minute ago, Colts_Fan12 said:

Them and Detroit suck they both are 2 big reasons we don't have a championship.

Detroit should've never beat us in 2004, we had HCA. Then in 2005 that crazy brawl that Ben Wallace and their fans started in reality because we were kicking their butt pretty much screwed us and ended Reggie's career. Our true best chance to win a Title was in 1998. We had the Michael and the Bulls beat but choked in the last 3 minutes. In 2013 we had a decent chance but got blown in Game 7 vs LeBron and Wade.

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8 minutes ago, dgambill said:

Possibly but I don't think he deserves it. I got 1st team Lebron and Durant 2nd team Leonard and Davis 3rd team butler and the Greek freak. Honestly those guys have been better but it's possible PG gets it but I'm not a betting man like Larry is evidentially. That all said I think trading PG for the Brooklyn picks and getting a player from Boston we would be better than with PG in 3 years time. My honest opinion.

I hear that...I just see all those elite picks stumbling around on the 76ers and Lakers..and I want to stay with PG and Myles.

I don't believe that good free agents wont come to Indianapolis...Look at the last 2 years.

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Just now, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Detroit should've never beat us in 2004, we had HCA. Then in 2005 that crazy brawl that Ben Wallace and their fans started in reality because we were kicking their butt pretty much screwed us and ended Reggie's career. Our true best chance to win a Title was in 1998. We had the Michael and the Bulls beat but choked in the last 3 minutes. In 2013 we had a decent chance but got blown in Game 7 vs LeBron and Wade.

And we are no where near close to being constructed as well as any of those teams. We max out PG...then we likely lose Teague because we will need max money for Myles...and if we keep Teague then we aren't bringing in any worthwhile free agents. This team just doesn't fit together well. Teague and PG don't compliment each other imo. Honestly a rebuild around Myles is needed.

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1 minute ago, dgambill said:

And we are no where near close to being constructed as well as any of those teams. We max out PG...then we likely lose Teague because we will need max money for Myles...and if we keep Teague then we aren't bringing in any worthwhile free agents. This team just doesn't fit together well. Teague and PG don't compliment each other imo. Honestly a rebuild around Myles is needed.

Rebuilds don't work...check out 'the process' in Philadelphia.

When you burn your team to the ground.....it stays down..

 

I'll stay with PG, Teague and Myles...and try to add

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3 minutes ago, oldunclemark said:

I hear that...I just see all those elite picks stumbling around on the 76ers and Lakers..and I want to stay with PG and Myles.

I don't believe that good free agents won come to Indianapolis...Look at the last 2 years.

Who? We had AWFUL signings last couple years. cj miles has been our only good signing. Please don't tell me stuckey, old AL and the worst signing of all monta. Just just horrible signings that are the very reason we are barely a playoff team WITH PG and Myles. Those guys have crippled us. Slow plodding big that doesn't fit. Monta and Stuckey duplicate players that don't shoot 3 well and poor defensively? Ugh no wonder we aren't on the same page we can't even agree on what a good free agent signing is.

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6 minutes ago, oldunclemark said:

Rebuilds don't work...check out 'the process' in Philadelphia.

When you burn your team to the ground.....it stays down..

 

I'll stay with PG, Teague and Myles...and try to add

I'm not a fan of some of their picks...but I predict Sixers have a brighter future than the current Pacers roster. Injury set backs hurt and duplicating nerliens embid and okafor didn't help but I'd rather have their future than ours right now. But why not use bostons rebuild? Got rid of vets for picks and built from ground up? That not working?

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Just now, dgambill said:

I'm not a fan of some of their picks...but I predict Sixers have a brighter future than the current Pacers roster. Injury set backs hurt and duplicating nerliens embid and okafor didn't help but I'd rather have their future than ours right now.

I don't think the 76esr future is bright but the can add more picks this summer..

Futures can be debated..

Our present is better than theirs

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1 minute ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

I wonder what Magic offered him? That would've entertaining to listen to that phone call.

That's the one that intrigues me.....(and PG probably)

.......Their top pick is 'protected' I think....so they didn't have a lot to offer now.

 

Really, how many Lakers do you want other than Ingram

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1 minute ago, oldunclemark said:

I don't think the 76esr future is bright but the can add more picks this summer..

Futures can be debated..

Our present is better than theirs

Sorry I edited my post...I point to bostons rebuild...more equivalent since they parted with stars and got picks.

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1 minute ago, oldunclemark said:

That's the one that intrigues me.....(and PG probably)

.......Their top pick is 'protected' I think....so they didn't have a lot to offer now.

 

Really, how many Lakers do you want other than Ingram

Larry would have to get Ingram and Russell + that pick but if the Lakers would've got PG  they may have finished out of the Top 3. They have to finish in the bottom 3 to keep their pick.

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Just now, dgambill said:

Sorry I edited my post...I point to bostons rebuild...more equivalent since they parted with stars and got picks.

That's a decent one but they haven't won much outside the regular season.

And that lineup is good but not up to Toronto or Cleveland

maybe with the No.1 pock this summer, they'll be ready to win something

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1 minute ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Larry would have to get Ingram and Russell + that pick but if the Lakers would've got PG  they may have finished out of the Top 3. They have to finish in the bottom 3 to keep their pick.

I'd rather have Ingram, randle and the pick. But bostons assets were better.

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Just now, oldunclemark said:

The more likely scenario is that every GM in the league does his job and calls about star players near the end of their deals

Yep. We don't have to shop him. We field the calls....but instead of not interested immediately I bet we listened.

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