Aqib Talib to Broncos [Merge]

[sweetsurrender]

they bring in the talent.

Sure and that talent was crushed by the Pats and Hawks in the post-season.

[jvan1973]

Sure and that talent was crushed by the Pats and Hawks in the post-season.

I guess he hiked the ball over peytons head and decided to pooch kick to harvin

If you think he is doing a bad job, you must think Grigson is terrible

[sweetsurrender]

I guess he hiked the ball over peytons head and decided to pooch kick to harvin

If you think he is doing a bad job, you must think Grigson is terrible

Like you said those are HIS players snapping balls over Peyton's heads in the biggest game of the year.

 

Not sure yet on Grig. This is a big off-season for him.

[amfootball]

How did I miss this discussion on Tebow?!  ;)  I have to go back and re-read and find out how he even came up on a Talib thread.

[jvan1973]

Like you said those are HIS players snapping balls over Peyton's heads in the biggest game of the year.

Not sure yet on Grig. This is a big off-season for him.

Using your logic he has to be terrible. You must think Trent Baalke is terrible too

[GoPats]

That's bad for the Pats. Wonder how they'll replace him?

 

[sweetsurrender]

Using your logic he has to be terrible. You must think Trent Baalke is terrible too

Did one of those owners start Tim Tebow? And let a 29 year Dumerville walk and then the next season sign a 32 old at 30 mil with 20 mil guaranteed? But hey not everyone holds the record for most Super Bowl blow outs by a player and GM.

[jvan1973]

Did one of those owners start Tim Tebow? And let a 29 year Dumerville walk and then the next season sign a 32 old at 30 mil with 20 mil guaranteed? But hey not everyone holds the record for most Super Bowl blow outs by a player and GM.

Elway isn't the owner.

And the broncos won a playoff game worth tebow

[GoPats]

Revis is coming off a season long injury that seemed to plague his performance. So when the beloved Pats sign someone, it's a steal, but when another team signs a high profile player it's a bad signing? No, these were bad signings by both teams. Pats were in desperation mode for a CB and they got one, but I suspect he will fail to live up to the hype. It will be like that Albert Haynesworth signing. The Pats aren't the miracle workers they once were.

 

 

:yes:

 

Yeah, exactly like that.

 

I'm pretty sure very close to 100% of the people who follow the NFL would tell you that Revis at $12M next to Talib at roughly $10M-per for six years is a pretty sound investment. 

 

This couldn't be more un-like the Haynesworth signing. They're not taking a low-risk shot at a guy with immense talent but no brain or work ethic. They signed one of the three or five best defensive players in the game. 

[sweetsurrender]

Elway isn't the owner.

Yeah he is the GM. He builds the team.

[jvan1973]

Yeah he is the GM. He builds the team.

had a team that won a playoff game with tebow at qb

[amfootball]

:yes:

 

Yeah, exactly like that.

 

I'm pretty sure very close to 100% of the people who follow the NFL would tell you that Revis at $12M next to Talib at roughly $10M-per for six years is a pretty sound investment. 

 

This couldn't be more un-like the Haynesworth signing. They're not taking a low-risk shot at a guy with immense talent but no brain or work ethic. They signed one of the three or five best defensive players in the game. 

Also so many forget that in 2011 there was only a 3 day window for FA because of the lock out and every team was scraping the bottom of the barrel. And of course people also like to forget that the Pats went to the Super Bowl that year and were a Welker drop and/or defense stop away from winning it.

[sweetsurrender]

had a team that won a playoff game with tebow at qb-

Lol. And then were crushed by the Pats. But then again Elway is used to getting crushed in the post-season but usually it is the Super Bowl.

[jvan1973]

Lol. And then were crushed by the Pats. But then again Elway is used to getting crushed in the post-season but usually it is the Super Bowl.

Your hatred of Elway is hilarious.

[sweetsurrender]

Your hatred of Elway is hilarious.

And your defense of him is suspicious at best. But Go Colts, right? 

[azcolt]

Any Colts fan old enough to remember John and Jack Elway's orchestrated trade to Denver should detest him.

[jvan1973]

And your defense of him is suspicious at best. But Go Colts, right?

why suspicious? Name ten other gms who have been more successful

[jvan1973]

Any Colts fan old enough to remember John and Jack Elway's orchestrated trade to Denver should detest him.

not me, him dissing the colts helped the team move to Indy. I love him

[sweetsurrender]

why suspicious? Name ten other gms who have been more successful

Are you serious? Do you want me to name the last 10 Super Bowl winning GMs? None of them are named Elway.

[sweetsurrender]

not me, him dissing the colts helped the team move to Indy. I love him

[jvan1973]

Are you serious? Do you want me to name the last 10 Super Bowl winning GMs? None of them are named Elway.

10 current gms that have been more successful with the teams they currently work for

[jvan1973]

I'm from Indy, why would i hate the fact they moved to Indy?

[sweetsurrender]

10 current gms

The last 10 SB winning GMs are current.

[jvan1973]

The last 10 SB winning GMs are current.

no, actually they aren't

[sweetsurrender]

no, actually they aren't

Any SB winning GM is better than Elway right now and none of them other than Polian had one of the best QBs of all time at the helm and even Polian has a ring.

[jvan1973]

Any SB winning GM is better than Elway right now and none of them other than Polian had one of the best QBs of all time at the helm and even Polian has a ring.

how many Superbowl winning gms are there currently employed with the team they win the Superbowl with

[sweetsurrender]

how many Superbowl winning gms are there currently employed with the team they win the Superbowl with

Or head coaches or players for that matter. Such is life in the NFL. Still does not change the fact they are better then Elway who will be on his way out most likely if he does not get it done with Manning ...

[jvan1973]

Or head coaches or players for that matter. Such is life in the NFL. Still does not change the fact they are better then Elway who will be on his way out most likely if he does not get it done with Manning ...

So you agree that currently there isn't 10 more successful gms in the nfl.

[sweetsurrender]

So you agree that currently there isn't 10 more successful gms in the nfl.

No, where did I say that?

[jvan1973]

No, where did I say that?

there isn't 10 superbowl winning gms currently employed

[sweetsurrender]

there isn't 10 superbowl winning gms currently employed

Yeah, I would take the ones that have won SBs and are not currently employed over Elway. This isn't that hard. But continue your love affair with the player/GM who has the most SB blow outs.

[jvan1973]

Yeah, I would take the ones that have won SBs and are not currently employed over Elway. This isn't that hard. But continue your love affair with the player/GM who has the most SB blow outs.

if they aren't currently employed, then they can't be ranked ahead. So there isn't ten more successful gms in the nfl right now

[TAPLOOK]

Mark my words. The Broncos implode next year. Injuries and bickering. They're collecting egos.

[sweetsurrender]

if they aren't currently employed, then they can't be ranked ahead. So there isn't ten more successful gms in the nfl right now

I would also take current GMs ahead of him that have not won SBs. He should have won at least one ring the last two years with Manning.

[jvan1973]

I would also take current GMs ahead of him that have not won SBs. He should have won at least one ring the last two years with Manning.

i didn't ask who you would take, i said more successful

[sweetsurrender]

i didn't ask who you would take, i said more successful

The other GMs didn't have arguably the best QB of his generation and get thumped in the SB.

[jvan1973]

The other GMs didn't have arguably the best QB of his generation and get thumped in the SB.

it doesn't matter. There isn't 10 more successful gms in the nfl, period

[sweetsurrender]

it doesn't matter. There isn't 10 more successful gms in the nfl, period

In your opinion. Those teams don't have Manning either.

[jvan1973]

In your opinion. Those teams don't have Manning either.

they beat the pats with Brady

[Dustin]

I'm still waiting for 10 names.