Dose any one else have that feeling

[Jules]

The thing that honestly makes me laugh in frustration the most about Colts' fans is that they're so spoiled with winning that they think it's a given that they're gonna shoot right back up the leaderboard in no time and continue to own the division for years to come. Manning really did a number on you guys...he made winning so easy for you, now it feels like you're entitled to it, like because your franchise has been a success for the past 10 years that a division title is only a year away (for some, not even that far).

Everyone, EVERYONE in that city, the organization, including players, coaches, GM, owner, should be thankful to Manning for the amount of victories he was able to bring to that team. It's not that easy. It really isn't. Some of you, the all-knowing ones who proclaim instant success in 2012, are gonna find that out the hard way.

We've been the AFC's kicking mule since our beginning, we've dealt with bad coaches, inept front offices, and draft busts. We've finally got a good, hard-working individuals making up a great football team, and yeah, we want to show our pride. It's because we love finally having a talented football team. And of course, we don't mind competition. But it's the arrogance of some on these boards that is pushing me towards hoping Luck fails miserably, and shuts those people up.

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Dude! Don't make us all feel bad. I was ROOTING for Houston last year against the Titans. I was upset Schaub went down. The Texans with Schaub I fully believe could have beaten NE. Heck they can probably beat any team in the league on their best day. You have no idea how many Packers fans I know who have the game in Houston as one of their losses next year already.

Maybe we are spoiled. We probably are. We went from Manning to the best QB college prospect since Manning. Fans of teams like the Browns think it's sickening.

This is that awkward moment when Houston becomes the top dog in the division finally.

Do we have any Titans or Jaguars fans who want to join in the conversation to express themselves? I feel like the talk of the division is Houston and Luck. Oh and the Jags punter. And how Manning turned down TN.

[Superman]

The thing that honestly makes me laugh in frustration the most about Colts' fans is that they're so spoiled with winning that they think it's a given that they're gonna shoot right back up the leaderboard in no time and continue to own the division for years to come. Manning really did a number on you guys...he made winning so easy for you, now it feels like you're entitled to it, like because your franchise has been a success for the past 10 years that a division title is only a year away (for some, not even that far).

Everyone, EVERYONE in that city, the organization, including players, coaches, GM, owner, should be thankful to Manning for the amount of victories he was able to bring to that team. It's not that easy. It really isn't. Some of you, the all-knowing ones who proclaim instant success in 2012, are gonna find that out the hard way.

We've been the AFC's kicking mule since our beginning, we've dealt with bad coaches, inept front offices, and draft busts. We've finally got a good, hard-working individuals making up a great football team, and yeah, we want to show our pride. It's because we love finally having a talented football team. And of course, we don't mind competition. But it's the arrogance of some on these boards that is pushing me towards hoping Luck fails miserably, and shuts those people up.

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What are you on about? Who here is proclaiming instant success, or that the Colts are going to go right back to winning division titles again?

Maybe you should acknowledge that any arrogance on the part of Colts fans in this thread is in response to your fellow Texans' fan's deliberate prodding.

I can understand your feelings about having a team that finally looks like it has the ability to be a winner. You've had a tough road to hoe as a Texans' fan. I am a Sacramento Kings fan, and I live in SoCal among bratty, arrogant Laker fans. I don't try to come across as if the Colts are entitled to anything, because I don't think they are. I just believe that the decisions the Colts have made are the right ones (outside of the Manning release, which I just have to embrace), and I think that the way the team is set up will benefit them in the long run.

Also, think about it from a Colts' fan point of view: Everyone, EVERYONE, is discounting this team's ability to play at a respectable level. It's been preordained that we're going to be the worst team in the NFL again, mostly because we were the worst team in the NFL last season. It's annoying. Nothing that we've done matters. All anyone ever says is "they didn't draft any corners!" That's what this thread is about, not the Texans, although the guy with the disrespectful avatar insists on making it so.

[Gavin]

What are you on about? Who here is proclaiming instant success, or that the Colts are going to go right back to winning division titles again?

Maybe you should acknowledge that any arrogance on the part of Colts fans in this thread is in response to your fellow Texans' fan's deliberate prodding.

I can understand your feelings about having a team that finally looks like it has the ability to be a winner. You've had a tough road to hoe as a Texans' fan. I am a Sacramento Kings fan, and I live in SoCal among bratty, arrogant Laker fans. I don't try to come across as if the Colts are entitled to anything, because I don't think they are. I just believe that the decisions the Colts have made are the right ones (outside of the Manning release, which I just have to embrace), and I think that the way the team is set up will benefit them in the long run.

Also, think about it from a Colts' fan point of view: Everyone, EVERYONE, is discounting this team's ability to play at a respectable level. It's been preordained that we're going to be the worst team in the NFL again, mostly because we were the worst team in the NFL last season. It's annoying. Nothing that we've done matters. All anyone ever says is "they didn't draft any corners!" That's what this thread is about, not the Texans, although the guy with the disrespectful avatar insists on making it so.

Actually I dont believe it "we dont draft any Corners" as it so much that we passed on alot of good Corners in the draft, I am fine with that NOW this year but hopefully our Corners play better or we make that high priority in the offseason at some point preferably the draft their are a couple great Corners coming out. Also I dont think everyone is predicting us to lose because of our record last year thats just unrealistic to think that in my opinion.....with that said however, I believe why everyone expects us to have a losing season is simple

1.New Coach

2.New Philosophy on BOTH sides of the ball

3.We have to many unknowns

4.Can our offensive line protect Luck (Im not holding my breath on that one) our Guard situation scares the crap out of me)

Thats not even taking into account we have a couple of defensive ends who have never played Linebacker in there life

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But paying Griffin and Manning both would have been very, very questionable. You could argue that he could have done the same thing with Manning/Luck, but in reality, he did not. I wish we would have gone after Stephen Smith rather than Whitney Mercilus in the draft this year...If Andre had help like that, we would blow opponents up down the field consistently, especially with the play action we get having Foster in the backfield.

No not really. Griffin wouldn't of been the #1 overall pick and in the eyes of fans, he would be viewed as the backup/heir apparent in a few years. The league is about perception and people would of viewed Griffin here as somewhat of a learning project behind Peyton. But I would of been for trading the pick anyway. Good luck blowing out teams this year with that skeleton of a defense compared to what you had last year.

[Qwiz]

I don't think we disagree about how important Manning is. We disagree about how extensive his role was.

This conversation isn't about how good he will be surrounded by the weapons we have. It's about whether he'll be better than the quarterbacks we had last season, surrounded by players that are no worse than the ones we had last season. Or do you want to talk about Clark and Addai again? The offense will be better because our quarterback will be better. And I'd say that about at least 20 of the quarterbacks in the NFL.

You don't understand play-action if you think it's completely dependent on the back. And Donald Brown is as good a runner as Addai is at this point. That coupled with your lack of insight with regard to the offensive line lead me to believe that you don't know much about the Colts. And then you again downplay Austin Collie on the basis that he only caught one touchdown pass last season, as if that's the only metric by which you measure a receiver's ability and value. Not to mention the fact that Collie led the NFL in receptions before he got hurt in 2010, and was on pace for 117 catches. But yeah, he hasn't shown anything.

This is about the future, not the past. Play action is not completely dependent on the back, but if you don't have a back who can frighten defenses at least a little bit with the threat of a breakaway, then they will focus their rushers on your rookie quarterback and not on the back at all, regardless of whether or not he gets the ball. And that is another thing about Collie...Yes, he got through this season okay, but if he gets hurt again, then bam, it's all Wayne. And a one-touchdown season performance? People give Tebow flack for his flaws but he had more touchdowns than that, passing and running. Trust me, I know enough about the Colts my friend. We will see who is right about the offensive line when the season begins and they are lining up against Urlacher and Peppers.

[Qwiz]

Never. In fact they've never won in Indy. I like that the Texans fans have one year of winning and now are all cocky. Yeah, we've been dominating you for your entire existence, but obviously one playoff appearance means you're the best team EVAR! Try dominating us for the next decade, then we'll talk.

And yes, we are up for the challenge. It was going to happen anyway whether you liked it or not. There is a little thing called karma, and it will be in your face for the next fifteen years. And it won't just be us; It will be Tennessee as well. This division is going to push Luck to his limits and we will see just how good he really is.

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This is about the future, not the past. Play action is not completely dependent on the back, but if you don't have a back who can frighten defenses at least a little bit with the threat of a breakaway, then they will focus their rushers on your rookie quarterback and not on the back at all, regardless of whether or not he gets the ball. And that is another thing about Collie...Yes, he got through this season okay, but if he gets hurt again, then bam, it's all Wayne. And a one-touchdown season performance? People give Tebow flack for his flaws but he had more touchdowns than that, passing and running. Trust me, I know enough about the Colts my friend. We will see who is right about the offensive line when the season begins and they are lining up against Urlacher and Peppers.

Its not even about who the back is. It's about the flat out ability of your oline to run block. A good O line can make Jackie Battle look like a pro bowl RB. You also seem to forget that we drafted two TE's of high caliaber, and a number of recievers as well.

[Qwiz]

No not really. Griffin wouldn't of been the #1 overall pick and in the eyes of fans, he would be viewed as the backup/heir apparent in a few years. The league is about perception and people would of viewed Griffin here as somewhat of a learning project behind Peyton. But I would of been for trading the pick anyway. Good luck blowing out teams this year with that skeleton of a defense compared to what you had last year.

! Dude are you kidding me? So I'm the one who knows nothing about Colts football, huh? Well it seems that you know nothing about Texans football. DeMeco Ryans played, yes, but he was not the same player he was pre-injury. He did not have that much of an impact in our defense, like, at all. Mario Williams was gone before the first half of the season was over, and everyone else stepped up. That is why we are the number 2 defense in the league right now lol. This skeleton of a defense is going to tear that line up and get to Luck in both games, Houston and Indianapolis. You are in for a rude awakening, my friend.

[Qwiz]

Its not even about who the back is. It's about the flat out ability of your oline to run block. A good O line can make Jackie Battle look like a pro bowl RB. You also seem to forget that we drafted two TE's of high caliaber, and a number of recievers as well.

No, the Pro Bowl is insignificant, remember? So I can't take your thoughts on that seriously. And Tight Ends are not always guaranteed to be open; They will probably prove to be bad for Luck, as the safeties in this league are going to bait the heck out of him, and we will see a 20+ interception campaign.

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! Dude are you kidding me? So I'm the one who knows nothing about Colts football, huh? Well it seems that you know nothing about Texans football. DeMeco Ryans played, yes, but he was not the same player he was pre-injury. He did not have that much of an impact in our defense, like, at all. Mario Williams was gone before the first half of the season was over, and everyone else stepped up. That is why we are the number 2 defense in the league right now lol. This skeleton of a defense is going to tear that line up and get to Luck in both games, Houston and Indianapolis. You are in for a rude awakening, my friend.

Quit trying to downplay your loses. Brian Cushing can't take steroids anymore. Mario Williams being gone will hurt you guys and DeMeco Ryans was actually a decent LB. You lost Dreesen who played half way decent for you guys when Owen I Cant Stay Healthy Like My QB Daniels went down. You lost pieces on your oline as well. You also lost your first round CB as well, Jason Allen, although he's viewed as a bust anyway.

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No, the Pro Bowl is insignificant, remember? So I can't take your thoughts on that seriously. And Tight Ends are not always guaranteed to be open; They will probably prove to be bad for Luck, as the safeties in this league are going to bait the heck out of him, and we will see a 20+ interception campaign.

It's insignificant when you make it as a 3rd string alternate. My point obviously went way over your head anyway so I'll let that one slide. Have you not watched the league lately? TE's are the new hybrid WR's. Look at what New England is doing with theirs and look at the Saints and 49ers with their big TE's.

[Qwiz]

Quit trying to downplay your loses. Brian Cushing can't take steroids anymore. Mario Williams being gone will hurt you guys and DeMeco Ryans was actually a decent LB. You lost Dreesen who played half way decent for you guys when Owen I Cant Stay Healthy Like My QB Daniels went down. You lost pieces on your oline as well. You also lost your first round CB as well, Jason Allen, although he's viewed as a bust anyway.

Well if Cushing can't take steroids anymore, maybe he can have some of your ever-present green. That was really a low blow, but guess what? Cushing still plays like a monster, in both his second and third seasons respectfully, so your little steroid argument is insufficient. There was talk of Williams being replaced as soon as he went down, considering we have Reed, Barwin, and now even Mercilus. The last time I checked, Tight Ends did not play defense. Maybe it would have been better this year if yours had gone in at LB or something, but anyway, I digress. If you want to talk offense, James Casey and Owen Daniels will be more than enough, injuries or not. Kubiak excells when it comes to using the TE, so don't even go there. Yes, Ryans was decent, but his loss will not hurt us. Not one bit. We lost Eric Winston...Wow. That's going to make or break our Super Bowl run this year. We did not draft Jason Allen, and though he was good when KJ was playing horribly, the guy still was not great, and KJ has stepped his game up. Try again, please, I implore you.

[Qwiz]

It's insignificant when you make it as a 3rd string alternate. My point obviously went way over your head anyway so I'll let that one slide. Have you not watched the league lately? TE's are the new hybrid WR's. Look at what New England is doing with theirs and look at the Saints and 49ers with their big TE's.

But everybody going is everybody going. Alternate or not, he was the fan's choice of third-best QB that year, and he is, therefore, a Pro Bowler. And just because NE and NO and Houston are doing well as far as TEs go, it does not mean everyone else can immediately copy that success. It takes great talent and coaching and, unfortunately for you, your head coach is defensive-minded. But having Bruce Arians could probably help you guys out there...They are still rookies, no matter how you shape it up.

[Qwiz]

What are you on about? Who here is proclaiming instant success, or that the Colts are going to go right back to winning division titles again?

Maybe you should acknowledge that any arrogance on the part of Colts fans in this thread is in response to your fellow Texans' fan's deliberate prodding.

I can understand your feelings about having a team that finally looks like it has the ability to be a winner. You've had a tough road to hoe as a Texans' fan. I am a Sacramento Kings fan, and I live in SoCal among bratty, arrogant Laker fans. I don't try to come across as if the Colts are entitled to anything, because I don't think they are. I just believe that the decisions the Colts have made are the right ones (outside of the Manning release, which I just have to embrace), and I think that the way the team is set up will benefit them in the long run.

Also, think about it from a Colts' fan point of view: Everyone, EVERYONE, is discounting this team's ability to play at a respectable level. It's been preordained that we're going to be the worst team in the NFL again, mostly because we were the worst team in the NFL last season. It's annoying. Nothing that we've done matters. All anyone ever says is "they didn't draft any corners!" That's what this thread is about, not the Texans, although the guy with the disrespectful avatar insists on making it so.

I am the one deliberately prodding? Your buddy Randal has made the aggressive moves here, I am merely defending myself. And my avatar is not disrespectful it's the truth...Manning is a Bronco now, and he is never coming back.

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Well if Cushing can't take steroids anymore, maybe he can have some of your ever-present green. That was really a low blow, but guess what? Cushing still plays like a monster, in both his second and third seasons respectfully, so your little steroid argument is insufficient. There was talk of Williams being replaced as soon as he went down, considering we have Reed, Barwin, and now even Mercilus. The last time I checked, Tight Ends did not play defense. Maybe it would have been better this year if yours had gone in at LB or something, but anyway, I digress. If you want to talk offense, James Casey and Owen Daniels will be more than enough, injuries or not. Kubiak excells when it comes to using the TE, so don't even go there. Yes, Ryans was decent, but his loss will not hurt us. Not one bit. We lost Eric Winston...Wow. That's going to make or break our Super Bowl run this year. We did not draft Jason Allen, and though he was good when KJ was playing horribly, the guy still was not great, and KJ has stepped his game up. Try again, please, I implore you.

Right, and wait till the league actually starts testing players for HGH, I can bet your boy Cushing is on that too. Reed, Barwin and Marceilus aren't elite players. No one knows who James Casey is and Owen Daniels can't stay healthy. By week 5 you'll be scratching the practice squad to fill your TE spots. It actually could make or break your super bowl run if Schaub gets pushed extra hard and breaks something. KJ was able to step up because he had two other solid CB's to make that whole secondary better.

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But everybody going is everybody going. Alternate or not, he was the fan's choice of third-best QB that year, and he is, therefore, a Pro Bowler. And just because NE and NO and Houston are doing well as far as TEs go, it does not mean everyone else can immediately copy that success. It takes great talent and coaching and, unfortunately for you, your head coach is defensive-minded. But having Bruce Arians could probably help you guys out there...They are still rookies, no matter how you shape it up.

For one year out of a 9 year career. He's the equivilant of Derek Anderson. The league is a copycat league. TE's are matchup nightmares and although Fleener and Allen will be rookies, the TE position is a position seeing players come right in and have immediate success. Look at Jimmy Graham in New Orleans. Fleener is of the same build as him and Gronkowski and shouldn't have a problem having success immediately. Unfortunately? I didn't realize what kind of mindset your coach has dictates what level of success you have on a paticular side of the ball. I guess the Ravens were doomed on defense in 2000 since Brian Billick was a offensive-minded coach.

[Qwiz]

Right, and wait till the league actually starts testing players for HGH, I can bet your boy Cushing is on that too. Reed, Barwin and Marceilus aren't elite players. No one knows who James Casey is and Owen Daniels can't stay healthy. By week 5 you'll be scratching the practice squad to fill your TE spots. It actually could make or break your super bowl run if Schaub gets pushed extra hard and breaks something. KJ was able to step up because he had two other solid CB's to make that whole secondary better.

No one knows who Donald Brown or Austin Collie is either. The difference is, Casey actually produces, and is a game changer. And our practice squad could probably still beat your starting squad, sadly...It could make your franchise if Luck gets crushed by the aforementioned Cushing or Barwin in the first play of our first game, breaking his leg and ending his career. God forbid anything like that happen, but do you see how petty your argument is? This secondary got better when we added Danieal Manning and moved Glover Quin to the free safety spot. Wade can work wonders with little, but, unfortunately for you, we have much more than little.

[Qwiz]

For one year out of a 9 year career. He's the equivilant of Derek Anderson. The league is a copycat league. TE's are matchup nightmares and although Fleener and Allen will be rookies, the TE position is a position seeing players come right in and have immediate success. Look at Jimmy Graham in New Orleans. Fleener is of the same build as him and Gronkowski and shouldn't have a problem having success immediately. Unfortunately? I didn't realize what kind of mindset your coach has dictates what level of success you have on a paticular side of the ball. I guess the Ravens were doomed on defense in 2000 since Brian Billick was a offensive-minded coach.

If Schaub is the equivalent of Derek Anderson, Manning is the equivalent of Trent Dilfer. Only one ring, my friend. Just one, while Brady has 3. The Ravens were terrible on offense this year and still did pretty good on defense. Guess where Pagano just came from?

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If Schaub is the equivalent of Derek Anderson, Manning is the equivalent of Trent Dilfer. Only one ring, my friend. Just one, while Brady has 3. The Ravens were terrible on offense this year and still did pretty good on defense. Guess where Pagano just came from?

Skillset and number of championships are completely different. Teams win championships, not individual players. And if we are playing that game, you guys are the Minnesota Vikings and Cleveland Browns of the league. ZERO RINGS. Your last part about Pagano is completely irrlevent. Not to mention that the Ravens offense didn't have a problem putting up more points than the Texans BOTH times they played.

[Qwiz]

Skillset and number of championships are completely different. Teams win championships, not individual players. And if we are playing that game, you guys are the Minnesota Vikings and Cleveland Browns of the league. ZERO RINGS. Your last part about Pagano is completely irrlevent. Not to mention that the Ravens offense didn't have a problem putting up more points than the Texans BOTH times they played.

No, I think your team has shown that individual players can indeed win championships...This year is the first year in NFL history that many believed a player who was not playing all season should have gotten the MVP, . And those same Cleveland Browns did not have a problem putting up more points than you...Nor did the lowly Jaguars, with Blaine Gabbert...nor did the Panthers...lol.

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No one knows who Donald Brown or Austin Collie is either. The difference is, Casey actually produces, and is a game changer. And our practice squad could probably still beat your starting squad, sadly...It could make your franchise if Luck gets crushed by the aforementioned Cushing or Barwin in the first play of our first game, breaking his leg and ending his career. God forbid anything like that happen, but do you see how petty your argument is? This secondary got better when we added Danieal Manning and moved Glover Quin to the free safety spot. Wade can work wonders with little, but, unfortunately for you, we have much more than little.

Just because a player isn't know by a random Texans fan doesnt mean they aren't good. As Superman mentioned, Collie was on pace for about 117 receptions before his injury. I doubt the part about the practice squad. A broken leg doesn't end a career either genius. I've actually pointed to actual losses on your team that actually hurt your team while you try to downplay them. You'll have the division this year MAYBE if you guys don't find a way to choke it away like all those years you guys did when Manning would come back in the 4th quarter. 0-11 in Indy.

[Qwiz]

Just because a player isn't know by a random Texans fan doesnt mean they aren't good. As Superman mentioned, Collie was on pace for about 117 receptions before his injury. I doubt the part about the practice squad. A broken leg doesn't end a career either genius. I've actually pointed to actual losses on your team that actually hurt your team while you try to downplay them. You'll have the division this year MAYBE if you guys don't find a way to choke it away like all those years you guys did when Manning would come back in the 4th quarter. 0-11 in Indy.

Neither does the ignorance of a Colts fan mean that Barwin and Cushing are not GREAT players. And again, I reiterate, Collie had one touchdown last season. Put up all the stats you want, all the catches and YAC, but one touchdown is not going to help your team in any way, and neither is it going to make you a good player. And depending on the severity of the injury, yes, a broken leg could end your career, if not destroy the player you were before. Do you know who Joe Theismann is, or did you only start watching football when Manning started to get good? None of the losses you pointed out has hurt our team in any way. Not a miniscule bit. We will have the division, yes, and we will probably have it next year too. In the words of LeBron James, not six, not seven, not eight...I can almost guarantee you that this year that record in Indianapolis will be changed to 1-11. While your best days may be ahead of you with Luck, our best days are ahead of us as well, both short and long term.

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No, I think your team has shown that individual players can indeed win championships...This year is the first year in NFL history that many believed a player who was not playing all season should have gotten the MVP, . And those same Cleveland Browns did not have a problem putting up more points than you...Nor did the lowly Jaguars, with Blaine Gabbert...nor did the Panthers...lol.

You are obilvious, like its insane. The year we won our championship Manning wasn't really the main reason we went on that run. We ran the ball and our defense played out of their minds. And if anything, that's a compliment to just how good Manning is. You wish you could have a QB half as good as that. That's fine, its one bad year when you've guys have had an entire DECADE of losses and no playoff wins. And I'm perfectly fine with that too, none of those teams you said have won a Super Bowl. You guys are the popular of the unpopular of schoolchildren.

[Qwiz]

You are obilvious, like its insane. The year we won our championship Manning wasn't really the main reason we went on that run. We ran the ball and our defense played out of their minds. And if anything, that's a compliment to just how good Manning is. You wish you could have a QB half as good as that. That's fine, its one bad year when you've guys have had an entire DECADE of losses and no playoff wins. And I'm perfectly fine with that too, none of those teams you said have won a Super Bowl. You guys are the popular of the unpopular of schoolchildren.

Who cares? Had you had, let's say, Curtis Painter as the QB that year, things would have been much different. And I just basically got an admission of how good Schaub and Yates are...running the ball, while at the same time having a lights out defense? We just did that this past season. Interesting. Schaub and about 30 other quarterbacks in the league are not as good as Manning, but that's okay, because Manning is in orange now. You now have a rookie at the helm, who will be abused for years to come. We may be unpopular, but we will still win. I like being the underdog. You, however, are the under-underdog.

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Neither does the ignorance of a Colts fan mean that Barwin and Cushing are not GREAT players. And again, I reiterate, Collie had one touchdown last season. Put up all the stats you want, all the catches and YAC, but one touchdown is not going to help your team in any way, and neither is it going to make you a good player. And depending on the severity of the injury, yes, a broken leg could end your career, if not destroy the player you were before. Do you know who Joe Theismann is, or did you only start watching football when Manning started to get good? None of the losses you pointed out has hurt our team in any way. Not a miniscule bit. We will have the division, yes, and we will probably have it next year too. In the words of LeBron James, not six, not seven, not eight...I can almost guarantee you that this year that record in Indianapolis will be changed to 1-11. While your best days may be ahead of you with Luck, our best days are ahead of us as well, both short and long term.

When you have a garbage QB, good players can see their production go down. And that's fine and dandy about your injury garbage but if anything, based on history of injuries, Schaub has more of a chance of getting his leg broken than Luck does. We'll see if Schaub can make it a full season. You are insane to think if you think you guys are just going to plug and play with all those players you just lost. You aren't the New York Giants nor the Green Bay Packers, two teams who have had major turnover in players due to Free Agency and injuries yet still win. Funny you reference Lebron James but he, like your boy Matt Schaub chokes in the biggest moments too nor has any rings. You don't have a long term answer at QB either, not with that fraile skeleton of a QB.

[KarlKuffs]

! Dude are you kidding me? So I'm the one who knows nothing about Colts football, huh? Well it seems that you know nothing about Texans football. DeMeco Ryans played, yes, but he was not the same player he was pre-injury. He did not have that much of an impact in our defense, like, at all. Mario Williams was gone before the first half of the season was over, and everyone else stepped up. That is why we are the number 2 defense in the league right now lol. This skeleton of a defense is going to tear that line up and get to Luck in both games, Houston and Indianapolis. You are in for a rude awakening, my friend.

Too bad your defense won't be playing the 2nd easiest schedule in the league again this year, as you did last year. Here are the offensive rankings of the 10 teams you beat last year:

Ind - 30

Mia - 22

Pit - 12

Ten - 17

Jax - 32

Cle - 29

TB - 21

Jax - 32

Atl - 10

Cin - 20

You beat one....ONE....top 10 offense. And they were at the fringe of the top 10. What happened last year against the one top offensive team you played.....New Orleans? You gave up 40 points and 450+ yards, and that was WITH Mario Williams.....lol

Quit acting like the Houston Texans defense is some established juggernaut. It's not.

So take your one division title that you got handed to you on a silver platter via the perfect storm of Peyton Manning being injured, your joke schedule, and our division being the s h i t t i e s t division in the league consisting of 3 teams that are rebuilding and you......shut your piehole.....and leave.

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When you have a garbage QB, good players can see their production go down. And that's fine and dandy about your injury garbage but if anything, based on history of injuries, Schaub has more of a chance of getting his leg broken than Luck does. We'll see if Schaub can make it a full season. You are insane to think if you think you guys are just going to plug and play with all those players you just lost. You aren't the New York Giants nor the Green Bay Packers, two teams who have had major turnover in players due to Free Agency and injuries yet still win. Funny you reference Lebron James but he, like your boy Matt Schaub chokes in the biggest moments too nor has any rings. You don't have a long term answer at QB either, not with that fraile skeleton of a QB.

Well, thankfully for us, we do not have a garbage quarterback, like you seem to believe, and our offensive players numbers actually go UP rather than down...(cough) Colts. Schaub has an offensive line, unlike Luck, so no, the chance is not greater in any way. Luck likes to run as well, and that may very well prove to be his down fall this season. We lost TWO players on defense who did diddlysquat to get us to our playoff debut. Why don't you understand that? Matt Schaub is going to light it up with passing numbers, Foster will do the same rushing, Andre will do the same receiving, and Luck will just be...Well, he might look similar to how Painter did last year. A deer in headlights. LeBron James is still the best player in the NBA, despite his absence of rings...And you do know that it is more likely that Schaub will have more Super Bowl wins than Manning when they both retire? Blows your mind, doesn't it?

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Too bad your defense won't be playing the 2nd easiest schedule in the league again this year, as you did last year. Here are the offensive rankings of the 10 teams you beat last year:

Ind - 30

Mia - 22

Pit - 12

Ten - 17

Jax - 32

Cle - 29

TB - 21

Jax - 32

Atl - 10

Cin - 20

You beat one....ONE....top 10 offense. And they were at the fringe of the top 10. What happened last year against the one top offensive team you played.....New Orleans? You gave up 40 points and 450+ yards, and that was WITH Mario Williams.....lol

Quit acting like the Houston Texans defense is some established juggernaut. It's not.

So take your one division title that you got handed to you on a silver platter via the perfect storm of Peyton Manning being injured, your joke schedule, and our division being the s h i t t i e s t division in the league consisting of 3 teams that are rebuilding and you......shut your piehole.....and leave.

How about you go back to playing with your Legos buddy. Guess who else lost to NO last year? Plenty of teams. They weren't exactly Browns, who, I know you guys couldn't beat, but we would have dismantled. Oh yeah, by the way, three of the teams on that list went to the playoffs...unlike the Colts. Peyton Manning would have been beaten even if he had been playing, and there is no room to speculate on what could have been. Things happened last year, you sucked, things did not go your way for once, and now the worst division is going to be ours for a very long time now. You are dismissed.

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Who cares? Had you had, let's say, Curtis Painter as the QB that year, things would have been much different. And I just basically got an admission of how good Schaub and Yates are...running the ball, while at the same time having a lights out defense? We just did that this past season. Interesting. Schaub and about 30 other quarterbacks in the league are not as good as Manning, but that's okay, because Manning is in orange now. You now have a rookie at the helm, who will be abused for years to come. We may be unpopular, but we will still win. I like being the underdog. You, however, are the under-underdog.

Shoulda woulda coulda is all I'm reading. We have our championship. You don't. Schaub and Yates aren't that good. Having an insane defense and running the ball with a QB who can make plays down the stretch wins you championships. I'm not downplaying what Manning did but the major factors were that improved running game and defense. No, we now have a rookie who's gonna be one of the faces of the future in the league. Like I said, you'll have the division this year and maybe the next but that'll be it. Win what? The division? 1 playoff game then get bounced out by the Steelers or Patriots? Have fun

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Shoulda woulda coulda is all I'm reading. We have our championship. You don't. Schaub and Yates aren't that good. Having an insane defense and running the ball with a QB who can make plays down the stretch wins you championships. I'm not downplaying what Manning did but the major factors were that improved running game and defense. No, we now have a rookie who's gonna be one of the faces of the future in the league. Like I said, you'll have the division this year and maybe the next but that'll be it. Win what? The division? 1 playoff game then get bounced out by the Steelers or Patriots? Have fun

Two teams who we have beat the last time we played. Schaub is good, I don't give a flying bronco what you say about him. He will beat you again this season, and next season, and next season, and next season....We too have a rookie who may be one of the faces in the league, especially if he stays and plays for us.

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Well, thankfully for us, we do not have a garbage quarterback, like you seem to believe, and our offensive players numbers actually go UP rather than down...(cough) Colts. Schaub has an offensive line, unlike Luck, so no, the chance is not greater in any way. Luck likes to run as well, and that may very well prove to be his down fall this season. We lost TWO players on defense who did diddlysquat to get us to our playoff debut. Why don't you understand that? Matt Schaub is going to light it up with passing numbers, Foster will do the same rushing, Andre will do the same receiving, and Luck will just be...Well, he might look similar to how Painter did last year. A deer in headlights. LeBron James is still the best player in the NBA, despite his absence of rings...And you do know that it is more likely that Schaub will have more Super Bowl wins than Manning when they both retire? Blows your mind, doesn't it?

He's not garbage but he's slighly above average at BEST. It's just masked by a passer-friendly system with an elite RB and WR. Luck actually has a decent Oline this year. Having Kerry Collins and Curtis Painter last year will make any line look horrible with their inablitiy to feel and sidestep pressure. Painter and Luck are not similar in the slightest. Luck's a #1 pick, Painter is a 6th rounder garbo QB. More likely than Manning? , Schaub hasn't even won a playoff game and he's in his 9th season. Schaub is the ugly step sister version of Tony Romo

Oh and you mention us losing to Carolina, didn't the Texans lose at home to them?

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He's not garbage but he's slighly above average at BEST. It's just masked by a passer-friendly system with an elite RB and WR. Luck actually has a decent Oline this year. Having Kerry Collins and Curtis Painter last year will make any line look horrible with their inablitiy to feel and sidestep pressure. Painter and Luck are not similar in the slightest. Luck's a #1 pick, Painter is a 6th rounder garbo QB. More likely than Manning? , Schaub hasn't even won a playoff game and he's in his 9th season. Schaub is the ugly step sister version of Tony Romo

Oh and you mention us losing to Carolina, didn't the Texans lose at home to them?

Guess what. Luck will not have an elite RB or WR this year. He will be getting hit on a consistent basis and, trust me, it will lead to costly interceptions. A scared or bruised rookie quarterback is one thing you do not want to have. And while I find your attraction to Romo slightly bizarre, he is not of the same caliber player that Schaub is. Romo is known for how much he messes up and chokes, and for his inability to lead a very talented team to the playoffs. Luck, however, will be the reverse. He will be the only talented player on an offense that will be sub-par. Yes, we did lose to the Panthers. See how I can admit my team's faults? We have a game like that every year, where we lose to someone we should have dominated.

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Two teams who we have beat the last time we played. Schaub is good, I don't give a flying bronco what you say about him. He will beat you again this season, and next season, and next season, and next season....We too have a rookie who may be one of the faces in the league, especially if he stays and plays for us.

What two teams? You've lost me there. And you can believe Schaub is good, but anyone that has any semblence of a brain will tell you that he is an above average at best QB WHEN HEALTHY.

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What two teams? You've lost me there. And you can believe Schaub is good, but anyone that has any semblence of a brain will tell you that he is an above average at best QB WHEN HEALTHY.

Pittsburgh and New England. Anyone with a semblance of a brain would not have released Peyton Manning, or not had a back-up plan for him years beforehand.

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Guess what. Luck will not have an elite RB or WR this year. He will be getting hit on a consistent basis and, trust me, it will lead to costly interceptions. A scared or bruised rookie quarterback is one thing you do not want to have. And while I find your attraction to Romo slightly bizarre, he is not of the same caliber player that Schaub is. Romo is known for how much he messes up and chokes, and for his inability to lead a very talented team to the playoffs. Luck, however, will be the reverse. He will be the only talented player on an offense that will be sub-par. Yes, we did lose to the Panthers. See how I can admit my team's faults? We have a game like that every year, where we lose to someone we should have dominated.

He won't need an elite RB or WR to have success like Schaub has to have. Funny, if you remove Romo's name from that little equation about chokes and inablitiy to lead teams to the playoffs, you would think its describing Schaub. Romo actually has won a playoff game and puts up good numbers and as actually made the pro bowl NOT as an 3rd string alternate. You are right about the opposite part though. Luck will actually win big games and not choke like Romo and Schaub. Admit your teams faults? You just said that all those players you lost won't affect your team one bit. You're talking about of both sides of your mouth.

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Pittsburgh and New England. Anyone with a semblance of a brain would not have released Peyton Manning, or not had a back-up plan for him years beforehand.

In the regular season.. you want a cookie for those wins? Because thats about all they're worth now. Actually a smart person would realize that success over a 10-15 year period is better than a 3-5 year period. I guess that's why the Texans have been so good for so long right?

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He won't need an elite RB or WR to have success like Schaub. Funny, if you remove Romo's name from that little equation about chokes and inablitiy to lead teams to the playoffs, you would think its describing Schaub. Romo actually has won a playoff game and puts up good numbers and as actually made the pro bowl NOT as an 3rd string alternate. You are right about the opposite part though. Luck will actualyl win big games and not choke like Romo and Schaub. Admit your teams faults? You just said that all those players you lost won't affect your team one bit. You're talking about of both sides of your mouth.

I actually have four sides to my mouth. You know...like a normal human being would. I can't even fathom what you have...But anyway back on the subject. I didn't know Luck could throw, catch, rush, and block for the entire offensive unit. So you are saying that he can make guys like Quan Cosby good? Yeah, I don't think so. The chokes could also be applied to the Colts this past season and the near future as well. Romo still sucks, believe it or not. Losing obscure players or players who did not contribute at all to a playoff push is not a fault. You should look up the word in a dictionary.

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In the regular season.. you want a cookie for those wins? Because thats about all they're worth now. Actually a smart person would realize that success over a 10-15 year period is better than a 3-5 year period. I guess that's why the Texans have been so good for so long right?

In the regular season.. you want a cookie for those wins? Because thats about all they're worth now. Actually a smart person would realize that success over a 10-15 year period is better than a 3-5 year period. I guess that's why the Texans have been so good for so long right?

And the Colts before Manning were...Great? okay. Yes, a dynasty has to start somewhere my friend. I think the NFL would give the Texans two cookies, one for winning the division in the regular season, one for winning a playoff game in the post season. Guess how many cookies the Colts would have? Hahahaha.

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I actually have four sides to my mouth. You know...like a normal human being would. I can't even fathom what you have...But anyway back on the subject. I didn't know Luck could throw, catch, rush, and block for the entire offensive unit. So you are saying that he can make guys like Quan Cosby good? Yeah, I don't think so. The chokes could also be applied to the Colts this past season and the near future as well. Romo still sucks, believe it or not. Losing obscure players or players who did not contribute at all to a playoff push is not a fault. You should look up the word in a dictionary.

It's a figure of speech. Please show a little bit of maturity here so it's not like I'm talking to a high schooler. He probably could. But he's going to have guys like T.Y. Hilton and Fleener who can catch and burn teams deep. We've seen how good QB's can make average WR's good. It just works the opposite in Houston where the recievers make the QB look good. We didn't choke. We weren't even that good this year to choke like the Texans nearly did. Yeah Romo still sucks yet he's posted more wins and better stats than Schaub. What does that make Shaub then? Oh so Mario Williams didn't contribute in those early wins last year? OBLIVIOUS

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And the Colts before Manning were...Great? okay. Yes, a dynasty has to start somewhere my friend. I think the NFL would give the Texans two cookies, one for winning the division in the regular season, one for winning a playoff game in the post season. Guess how many cookies the Colts would have? Hahahaha.

The Colts as a franchise have had periods of success throughout the 60's, 70's and mid to late 90's. Much more than any Houston football team. A TEXANS FAN TALKING ABOUT DYNASTYS. Now that's just true comedy right there. You guys haven't even made a AFC Championship game. If you wanna go off of previous success, we have enough cookies to own a factory. You guys would have enough to fill half a mini-jar in your kitchen.