NFL Preview Colts at Falcons plus injury reports

[Patrick Miller]

1 hour ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

Looks like Moss might miss the game.

 

 

I didn’t figure he would. 

[1959Colts]

18 minutes ago, dw49 said:

 

About an hour ago , I bet a 6 point teaser with Buffalo -6 and Indy plus 7.5. Like you say , the line jumped another point. I don't get it as today's news was good on Pitman and Taylor. So far I have the colts minus 2.5 for a big bet. Then colts minus 2.5 again for a smaller bet and now the teaser at 1.5. Looks like I took the worst of this by far. Line moving from minus 2.5 to plus 2.5 is a HUGE move. Yeah... smells like a dead fish for sure.

It is strange. Both Pittman and Taylor have been reported as trending in the right direction... and I wouldn't think the switch from Ridder to Heinicke would make that much of a difference? I hope we don't see a career performance from Taylor Heinicke

[2006Coltsbestever]

4 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

WTH That’s weird 

It is at 2.5 I just seen it. Not sure what is going on there. Usually, the home team gets 3 anyway to start, so for example if they are favored by 3 being at home, it would be like a pick 'em game in reality. 

[2006Coltsbestever]

Let it go up 3.5, I dare them. If that happens, I am putting $100 on the Colts.

[RollerColt]

4 minutes ago, 1959Colts said:

It is strange. Both Pittman and Taylor have been reported as trending in the right direction... and I wouldn't think the switch from Ridder to Heinicke would make that much of a difference? I hope we don't see a career performance from Taylor Heinicke

I’m not a gambler at all. Is Vegas really that accurate with this stuff, or is it because we’re a small market team and they don’t really pay that much attention to us?

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Watch all 3 teams lose. lol

[2006Coltsbestever]

Just now, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

Watch all 3 teams lose. lol

[2006Coltsbestever]

2 minutes ago, RollerColt said:

I’m not a gambler at all. Is Vegas really that accurate with this stuff, or is it because we’re a small market team and they don’t really pay that much attention to us?

A lot of people must be betting on the Falcons, that is what moves the needle. I am trying to figure out why?

[1959Colts]

5 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

A lot of people must be betting on the Falcons, that is what moves the needle. I am trying to figure out why?

I'd stay away from this one. I have heard, in Vegas, it's called...the sucker bet

[King Colt]

If CJ Stroud is out Sunday for Houston Inday has a chance to capitalize on Houston's misfortune.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Pitt will be cleared today as long as he had no symptoms after practice.

 

 

3 minutes ago, King Colt said:

If CJ Stroud is out Sunday for Houston Inday has a chance to capitalize on Houston's misfortune.

Lawrence is most likely out too.

[jskinnz]

35 minutes ago, RollerColt said:

I’m not a gambler at all. Is Vegas really that accurate with this stuff, or is it because we’re a small market team and they don’t really pay that much attention to us?

Nothing to do with being a small market team. There are billions of dollars at stake so it would be a really bad business practice not be aware of something going on with every team. 

[1959Colts]

16 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

Pitt will be cleared today as long as he had no symptoms after practice.

 

Nice to see Eric Johnson II is back to full

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

I don’t know much about betting. But is this true.

 

 

[RollerColt]

40 minutes ago, jskinnz said:

Nothing to do with being a small market team. There are billions of dollars at stake so it would be a really bad business practice not be aware of something going on with every team. 

Understood. Here’s to hoping we disappoint a lot of people then. 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

 

[Dingus McGirt]

1 hour ago, King Colt said:

If CJ Stroud is out Sunday for Houston Inday has a chance to capitalize on Houston's misfortune.

These things never seem to work out in the Colts’ favor.

[NewColtsFan]

1 hour ago, RollerColt said:

I’m not a gambler at all. Is Vegas really that accurate with this stuff, or is it because we’re a small market team and they don’t really pay that much attention to us?

Vegas is very accurate with this stuff.   They have to be.   Doesn’t mean they aren’t wrong from time to time.  When a big upset happens it’s often Vegas that takes a bath.   Then again, sometimes when a big upset happens it’s the betters who lose and Vegas wins.   
 

On balance, Vegas casinos make money hand over fist.  

[jvan1973]

1 hour ago, 1959Colts said:

I'd stay away from this one. I have heard, in Vegas, it's called...the sucker bet

Why is it a sucker bet?

[RollerColt]

11 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:

Vegas is very accurate with this stuff.   They have to be.   Doesn’t mean they aren’t wrong from time to time.  When a big upset happens it’s often Vegas that takes a bath.   Then again, sometimes when a big upset happens it’s the betters who lose and Vegas wins.   
 

On balance, Vegas casinos make money hand over fist.  

Makes sense. If Vegas lost more than they won the city probably wouldn’t even exist in its current format. I guess that’s why I never found an interest in gambling because I’m screwed over before even playing. 
 

So, this should be worrying if everyone is favoring the Falcons… They do have a better team than us in some key positions. 
 

Bradley vs. Heinicke was so bad for us last year…

[jvan1973]

2 hours ago, RollerColt said:

I’m not a gambler at all. Is Vegas really that accurate with this stuff, or is it because we’re a small market team and they don’t really pay that much attention to us?

Vegas wants equal money on both sides.   They make money on the rake to take the bet.   If a ton of money is coming in on one side,  they shift the line to encourage more money bet on the other side.   

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

5 minutes ago, jvan1973 said:

Vegas wants equal money on both sides.   They make money on the rake to take the bet.   If a ton of money is coming in on one side,  they shift the line to encourage more money bet on the other side.   

So you’re saying the money was going on colts? So they shifted it.

[NewColtsFan]

9 minutes ago, RollerColt said:

Makes sense. If Vegas lost more than they won the city probably wouldn’t even exist in its current format. I guess that’s why I never found an interest in gambling because I’m screwed over before even playing. 
 

So, this should be worrying if everyone is favoring the Falcons… They do have a better team than us in some key positions. 
 

Bradley vs. Heinicke was so bad for us last year…

Aren’t the Colts doing well on the road this year?    I thought so.  
 

I think the Colts find a way to win.   Maybe not by a lot, but win just the same.   
 

Also, look at the post by JVan right above mine.   He talks about what happens when too much money goes to one side.   It’s instructive.   
 

For the record, I rarely gamble….   Maybe 5 times, and when I do it’s for very small amounts.   Basically,  gambling has almost zero interest for me.   

[Superman]

1 hour ago, jvan1973 said:

Vegas wants equal money on both sides.   They make money on the rake to take the bet.   If a ton of money is coming in on one side,  they shift the line to encourage more money bet on the other side.   

 

I can see Draft Kings has Colts +2, with 67% of bets on the Falcons. What I don't know is whether that means 67% of bets are Falcons, or if that means 67% of the money is on Falcons. I think it means bets... which could mean novice action on one side, and sharps action on the other. 

 

Edit: Just moved to 2.5. Seems like the big factor was the QB switch.

 

Edit: Apparently this is all inaccurate, sorry.

[1959Colts]

22 minutes ago, jvan1973 said:

Why is it a sucker bet?

Atlanta, coming off a terrible loss to Carolina. their HC being called to be fired. vs the Colts who looked great on national TV hammering the Steelers. Understandably, the line opened as Falcons (+2 1/2 point) underdogs...

Now, unexplainably, the line has completely flipped, to Falcons (-2 1/2 point) favorites.

I am leery of this game, because the line does not really make sense. its like Vegas is baiting you to take the Colts. hence "sucker bet" http://www.lootmeister.com/betting/sucker-bets.php

...The sucker bet is a wager where you are literally suckered-in, thinking you have made a wager that is too good to be true. And we all know what they say about things that are too good to be true. It’s difficult because we are always on the lookout for wagers that have good value. We just need to recognize the fine line that exists between good value and a sucker bet...

[1959Colts]

 

[Moe]

24 minutes ago, Superman said:

 

I can see Draft Kings has Colts +2, with 67% of bets on the Falcons. What I don't know is whether that means 67% of bets are Falcons, or if that means 67% of the money is on Falcons. I think it means bets... which could mean novice action on one side, and sharps action on the other. 

DraftKings shows 78% of bets on Colts and 22% on Falcons 

[RollerColt]

12 minutes ago, 1959Colts said:

Atlanta, coming off a terrible loss to Carolina. their HC being called to be fired. vs the Colts who looked great on national TV hammering the Steelers. Understandably, the line opened as Falcons (+2 1/2 point) underdogs...

Now, unexplainably, the line has completely flipped, to Falcons (-2 1/2 point) favorites.

I am leery of this game, because the line does not really make sense. its like Vegas is baiting you to take the Colts. hence "sucker bet" http://www.lootmeister.com/betting/sucker-bets.php

...The sucker bet is a wager where you are literally suckered-in, thinking you have made a wager that is too good to be true. And we all know what they say about things that are too good to be true. It’s difficult because we are always on the lookout for wagers that have good value. We just need to recognize the fine line that exists between good value and a sucker bet...

It’s things like this that makes me wonder about betting and the integrity of the NFL… what do they know? And why do they know it? Because they know the outcome already? 

[jemack]

Wow, you all totally jacked this topic....😆

[Superman]

3 minutes ago, Moe said:

DraftKings shows 78% of bets on Colts and 22% on Falcons 

 

Do you have a DK account where it shows that? I've been using the game preview on BR which says it's 67/33 in favor of Falcons. 

[1959Colts]

15 minutes ago, RollerColt said:

It’s things like this that makes me wonder about betting and the integrity of the NFL… what do they know? And why do they know it? Because they know the outcome already? 

Yeah. I love all football, especially pro football. but the NFL is just so unpredictable it really makes me wonder?

Actually, I do not gamble at all. But I've come to make my weekly picks/predictions through the eyes of a gambler.

I told Restinpeacesweetchloe my theory (in picking NFL  games against the spread) is to pick the opposite of logic.

It may sound foolish, but using this approach, I don't always get it right, but more often than not, I do.

Another method of picking I use is to look at the weekly "expert picks" ESPN, CBS, FOX, etc. and when I see all the sportscasters are in complete agreement with one team to win, across the board, that tells me, pick the other team.

In other words,.. Take the team no one else is picking.

[Moe]

12 minutes ago, Superman said:

 

Do you have a DK account where it shows that? I've been using the game preview on BR which says it's 67/33 in favor of Falcons. 

Yes

[Superman]

1 minute ago, Moe said:

Yes

 

Wow, so whatever BR is showing is completely inaccurate. How helpful... /s

[csmopar]

So our expensive kicker is hurt, for how long and is that why he was missing the last few weeks

3 hours ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

Pitt will be cleared today as long as he had no symptoms after practice.

 

 

Lawrence is most likely out too.

If Pittman clears that’s insanely good luck

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Just saw a stat that there is 6 teams elimsted from the playoffs and Atlanta is 2-4 against those 6 teams. 

[1959Colts]

16 minutes ago, csmopar said:

 

...If Pittman clears that’s insanely good luck

For anyone interested... Kevin Bowen posted the concussion protocol

 

Shane Steichen wouldn’t share on Wednesday if Michael Pittman Jr. has progressed through any steps of the concussion protocol list or not...

 

...A reminder on the 5-step concussion protocol that Michael Pittman Jr. must clear before Sunday (from the NFL): 

 

SYMPTOM LIMITED ACTIVITY: The player is prescribed rest, limiting or, if necessary, avoiding activities (both physical and cognitive) which increase or aggravate symptoms. Under athletic training staff supervision, limited stretching and balance training can be introduced, progressing to light aerobic exercise, all as tolerated; 

AEROBIC EXERCISE: Under direct oversight of the team’s medical staff, the player should begin graduated cardiovascular exercise and may also engage in dynamic stretching and balance training. Neurocognitive and balance testing can be administered after completion of Phase Two and the results should be interpreted as back to baseline; 

FOOTBALL-SPECIFIC EXERCISE The player continues with supervised cardiovascular exercises that are increased and may mimic sport-specific activities, and supervised strength training is introduced. The player is allowed to practice with the team in sport-specific exercise for 30 minutes or less with ongoing and careful monitoring; 

CLUB-BASED NON-CONTACT TRAINING DRILLS: The player continues cardiovascular, strength and balance training, team-based sports-specific exercise, and participates in non-contact football activities (e.g. throwing, catching, running, and other position-specific activities). Neurocognitive and balance testing should be completed no later than the end of Phase Four with the results interpreted as back to baseline; 

FULL FOOTBALL ACTIVITY / CLEARANCE: Upon clearance by the Club physician for full football activity involving contact, the player must be examined by the Independent Neurological Consultant (INC) assigned to his Club. If the INC concurs with the Club physician that the player’s concussion has resolved, he may participate in his Club’s next practice or game.

 

 

[1959Colts]

2 hours ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

 

Bud Dupree (back)

still a little banged up on their OL as well

[csmopar]

13 minutes ago, 1959Colts said:

For anyone interested... Kevin Bowen posted the concussion protocol

 

Shane Steichen wouldn’t share on Wednesday if Michael Pittman Jr. has progressed through any steps of the concussion protocol list or not...

 

...A reminder on the 5-step concussion protocol that Michael Pittman Jr. must clear before Sunday (from the NFL): 

 

SYMPTOM LIMITED ACTIVITY: The player is prescribed rest, limiting or, if necessary, avoiding activities (both physical and cognitive) which increase or aggravate symptoms. Under athletic training staff supervision, limited stretching and balance training can be introduced, progressing to light aerobic exercise, all as tolerated; 

AEROBIC EXERCISE: Under direct oversight of the team’s medical staff, the player should begin graduated cardiovascular exercise and may also engage in dynamic stretching and balance training. Neurocognitive and balance testing can be administered after completion of Phase Two and the results should be interpreted as back to baseline; 

FOOTBALL-SPECIFIC EXERCISE The player continues with supervised cardiovascular exercises that are increased and may mimic sport-specific activities, and supervised strength training is introduced. The player is allowed to practice with the team in sport-specific exercise for 30 minutes or less with ongoing and careful monitoring; 

CLUB-BASED NON-CONTACT TRAINING DRILLS: The player continues cardiovascular, strength and balance training, team-based sports-specific exercise, and participates in non-contact football activities (e.g. throwing, catching, running, and other position-specific activities). Neurocognitive and balance testing should be completed no later than the end of Phase Four with the results interpreted as back to baseline; 

FULL FOOTBALL ACTIVITY / CLEARANCE: Upon clearance by the Club physician for full football activity involving contact, the player must be examined by the Independent Neurological Consultant (INC) assigned to his Club. If the INC concurs with the Club physician that the player’s concussion has resolved, he may participate in his Club’s next practice or game.

 

 

Yeah what I’m saying is that hit could have ended his career and here he is possibly able to play 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Listening to the horseshoe huddle and the Atlanta guy that gave on said the lower bowl Sunday will probably be empty. Said there won’t be a ton of fans there.

[dw49]

3 hours ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

I don’t know much about betting. But is this true.

 

 

 

Line just keeps swinging higher to the falcons. My betting site now has ATL minus 2.5 AND you have to lay $115 to win $100. It's $105 to win $100 if you take the Colts.