Killer Instinct

[WERC82]

I like what I'm seeing from Steichen so far minus two things, one we haven't seen from a Colts HC in decades, killer instinct. We're putting up points every week. The running game has flashed. The passing game has flashed. The defense has flashed. When anyone of those things starts to flash keep the opponent on the ropes with it and pound away. Too often we go away from what's working, essentially outsmarting ourselves. Teams adjust and we bail. Counter their adjustments but don't abandon what made them adjust. That puts them in control and now you're letting what they do control what you do. The other thing that he needs to work on in practice, film study and in meetings is blocking for pass catchers and runs outside the tackles. Our linemen need to do a much better job staying in front of whoever has the ball, and our pass catchers need to be way better at blocking on pass and running plays. No lead is safe in the NFL and Steichen needs to get that in his staff's head, especially Bradley's. Don't subscribe to a Tony Dungy mentality, get the lead and protect it. Subscribe to, if we can score 100 points we're gonna. Subscribe to, if we can sack you 10 times, force 10 fumbles and 10 picks we're gonna. Subscribe to, if I punch you in the mouth and you're stunned, I'm gonna punch you 5 more times before you shake it off. This is pro ball not your local peewee team, you aren't gonna hurt anybody's feeling. If it does that somebody doesn't belong in the league. No More Mr. Nice Guys.

[rockywoj]

At 17 - 7, Colts were in position to really bring the hammer down, stop the Saints and put up 7 more to extend the lead to 24-7.  
 

Colts couldn’t bring the hammer down. Sad.
 

 

[2006Coltsbestever]

2 minutes ago, WERC82 said:

I like what I'm seeing from Steichen so far minus two things, one we haven't seen from a Colts HC in decades, killer instinct. We're putting up points every week. The running game has flashed. The passing game has flashed. The defense has flashed. When anyone of those things starts to flash keep the opponent on the ropes with it and pound away. Too often we go away from what's working, essentially outsmarting ourselves. Teams adjust and we bail. Counter their adjustments but don't abandon what made them adjust. That puts them in control and now you're letting what they do control what you do. The other thing that he needs to work on in practice, film study and in meeting is blocking for pass catchers and runs outside the tackles. Our linemen need to do a much better job staying in front of whoever has the ball, and our pass catchers need to be way better at blocking on pass and running plays. No lead is safe in the NFL and Steichen needs to get that in his staff's head, especially Bradley's. Don't subscribe to a Tony Dungy mentality, get the lead and protect it. Subscribe to, if we can score 100 points we're gonna. Subscribe to, if we can sack you 10 times, force 10 fumbles and 10 picks we're gonna. Subscribe to, if I punch you in the mouth and you're stunned, I'm gonna punch you 5 more times before you shake it off. This is pro ball not your local peewee team, you aren't gonna hurt anybody's feeling. If it does that somebody doesn't belong in the league. No More Mr. Nice Guys.

I have been a fan since 1984 and I can only recall 1 coach that we have had that had true killer instinct. Ted Marchibroda but he didn't have much to work with. In 1995 we had the 'IT' factor and Harbaugh with Ted had killer instinct. That is it. Dungy is the best coach we have ever had but he and Peyton won a lot of games and a SB because we were just more talented than almost every team. Even Dungy would let the gas off the pedal though in many games. Probably the 3 best coaches the Indianapolis Colts have ever had, (talking here in Indy), not sure how old you are? Are:

1. Tony Dungy

2. Ted Marchibroda

3. Ron Meyer - Meyer had crap QB's to work with and when he took over in 1986 we were 0-13, he won the last 3 games of that season, then in 1987 we won the AFC East Division Title by going 9-6. He and Dickerson had great chemistry. 

[RollerColt]

12 minutes ago, rockywoj said:

At 17 - 7, Colts were in position to really bring the hammer down, stop the Saints and put up 7 more to extend the lead to 24-7.  
 

Colts couldn’t bring the hammer down. Sad.
 

 

I think we'll get there. But it's going to take time. I know everyone wants instant results, but that's just not how this year is going to go. Steichen will continue to figure out what kind of coach he is throughout the season. 

 

There's a fine balance between being a "killer" and being too soft. Being overly aggressive can * over just as much as laying off can. Let's hope our HC can learn that balance. 

[Indianapolis-Colts-Fan]

With AR coming back, I think things will start to improve. GM without pocket awareness, and turning the ball over, makes it hard to respond to the opponents score. ARs availing to scramble or run, helps the defense. I’m hoping this season ending injury will help him be more careful, and put more effort into his strength and conditioning. Dude is big, and adding some weight is worth some of a loss on his mobility as it’s already super high. 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

8 minutes ago, Indianapolis-Colts-Fan said:

With AR coming back, I think things will start to improve. GM without pocket awareness, and turning the ball over, makes it hard to respond to the opponents score. ARs availing to scramble or run, helps the defense. I’m hoping this season ending injury will help him be more careful, and put more effort into his strength and conditioning. Dude is big, and adding some weight is worth some of a loss on his mobility as it’s already super high. 

Adding weight can make your tendons and stuff more tight. He said he was already up to 250. 

[Indianapolis-Colts-Fan]

26 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

Adding weight can make your tendons and stuff more tight. He said he was already up to 250. 

not sure what else can be done. I do know Troy palamalu did a routine to help with these types of injuries, as he had quite a few injuries early on, but later on he limited those injuries because of this routine. 

[chad72]

Dungy won by emphasizing mistake free football w.r.t penalties and turnovers. We would play 60 minutes with maybe 1 turnover and less than a handful of penalties most games that it would embellish the opponents' mistakes, penalties and turnovers eventually for us to cash in and win. Of course, having Peyton, the HOF QB, helped erase so many coaching and GM mistakes too. You never felt like we were out of the game with him.

[coltsfan_canada]

I hope Shane learns a things or two also from these games that why our highest paid RB gets only 1 carry in 2nd half. Was he injured or obstacle in a tank season???

[kymd82222]

10 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

I have been a fan since 1984 and I can only recall 1 coach that we have had that had true killer instinct. Ted Marchibroda but he didn't have much to work with. In 1995 we had the 'IT' factor and Harbaugh with Ted had killer instinct. That is it. Dungy is the best coach we have ever had but he and Peyton won a lot of games and a SB because we were just more talented than almost every team. Even Dungy would let the gas off the pedal though in many games. Probably the 3 best coaches the Indianapolis Colts have ever had, (talking here in Indy), not sure how old you are? Are:

1. Tony Dungy

2. Ted Marchibroda

3. Ron Meyer - Meyer had crap QB's to work with and when he took over in 1986 we were 0-13, he won the last 3 games of that season, then in 1987 we won the AFC East Division Title by going 9-6. He and Dickerson had great chemistry. 

Completely agree with you, although I did not follow the Colts with Ron Meyer.  I started following in 94 with Marchibroda.  I also agree with you about Dungy - one of the criticisms was that he sometimes lacked killer instinct and let off the gas.  

[2006Coltsbestever]

Just now, kymd82222 said:

Completely agree with you, although I did not follow the Colts with Ron Meyer.  I started following in 95 with Marchibroda.  I also agree with you about Dungy - one of the criticisms was that he sometimes lacked killer instinct and let off the gas.  

Meyer was a lot like Marchibroda. Like Marchibroda, he didn't have much to work with. We got 2 great years out of Dickerson and got a Division Title out of it in 1987 under Meyer.

[rockywoj]

7 hours ago, coltsfan_canada said:

I hope Shane learns a things or two also from these games that why our highest paid RB gets only 1 carry in 2nd half. Was he injured or obstacle in a tank season???

I actually wondered if he was hurt.  Saw him after one play walking gingerly on his one foot, like he was testing if it was hurt. Never really saw him again much.

[ShuteAt168]

15 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

I have been a fan since 1984 and I can only recall 1 coach that we have had that had true killer instinct. Ted Marchibroda but he didn't have much to work with. In 1995 we had the 'IT' factor and Harbaugh with Ted had killer instinct. That is it. Dungy is the best coach we have ever had but he and Peyton won a lot of games and a SB because we were just more talented than almost every team. Even Dungy would let the gas off the pedal though in many games. Probably the 3 best coaches the Indianapolis Colts have ever had, (talking here in Indy), not sure how old you are? Are:

1. Tony Dungy

2. Ted Marchibroda

3. Ron Meyer - Meyer had crap QB's to work with and when he took over in 1986 we were 0-13, he won the last 3 games of that season, then in 1987 we won the AFC East Division Title by going 9-6. He and Dickerson had great chemistry. 

Nothing could beat getting up on Sunday morning, putting on a Colts shirt and knowing the Colts were going to win and that Manning was going to make some spectacular throws. I hope I get to relive that feeling with my son some day. 

[2006Coltsbestever]

15 hours ago, kymd82222 said:

Completely agree with you, although I did not follow the Colts with Ron Meyer.  I started following in 94 with Marchibroda.  I also agree with you about Dungy - one of the criticisms was that he sometimes lacked killer instinct and let off the gas.  

IMO, I think Meyer was better than Mora, Caldwell, Chuck, or Frank. Caldwell got us to a SB but he had Peyton and that was really Dungy's team. Chuck basically rode Luck's coattails to a respectable W/L record. Frank was average. Meyer was a hardnosed coach and the players always gave him 100%. Meyer was also against the FO trading up to get Jeff George. Nobody would listen to him; he said it would ruin the team and it did. Meyer and George didn't click at all and when Meyer started 0-5 in 1991, he said adios.

 

I listed my Top 3, I will extend it and go Top 5.

1. Dungy - 2006 SB Champion. Regular Season record was 85-27.

 

2. Marchibroda - The 1995 season stands out. 1 play away from the SB.

 

3. Meyer - The 1987 season stands out. We won the AFC East when the Pats, Dolphins, and Bills were all good.

 

4. Caldwell - 2009 was impressive (we got to the SB) even though it was Dungy's team.

 

5. Mora - His 1999 season was impressive. At the time the Colts recorded the most wins in a Regular Season at 13-3 here in Indianapolis. 

 

[sb41champs]

I think this years offensive staff has brought along some "swagger" this season!!

 

It's a learning year for our coaching staff - and - offensive players!!

 

LOOK OUT NEXT SEASON!!

[masterlock]

If there's a "killer instinct" that's missing I'd say it's on the defensive side. Even when fully healthy, I just don't think Gus Bradley brings the heat often enough. I feel like he's giving opposing QBs too much time to pick apart our inexperienced secondary. I know that blitzing comes with its own risks, but I'll take that over the Tampa 3 or whatever it is that describes Bradley's scheme. Defense is the reason we've lost the past 3 games.

[Moosejawcolt]

On 10/30/2023 at 8:43 AM, WERC82 said:

I like what I'm seeing from Steichen so far minus two things, one we haven't seen from a Colts HC in decades, killer instinct. We're putting up points every week. The running game has flashed. The passing game has flashed. The defense has flashed. When anyone of those things starts to flash keep the opponent on the ropes with it and pound away. Too often we go away from what's working, essentially outsmarting ourselves. Teams adjust and we bail. Counter their adjustments but don't abandon what made them adjust. That puts them in control and now you're letting what they do control what you do. The other thing that he needs to work on in practice, film study and in meetings is blocking for pass catchers and runs outside the tackles. Our linemen need to do a much better job staying in front of whoever has the ball, and our pass catchers need to be way better at blocking on pass and running plays. No lead is safe in the NFL and Steichen needs to get that in his staff's head, especially Bradley's. Don't subscribe to a Tony Dungy mentality, get the lead and protect it. Subscribe to, if we can score 100 points we're gonna. Subscribe to, if we can sack you 10 times, force 10 fumbles and 10 picks we're gonna. Subscribe to, if I punch you in the mouth and you're stunned, I'm gonna punch you 5 more times before you shake it off. This is pro ball not your local peewee team, you aren't gonna hurt anybody's feeling. If it does that somebody doesn't belong in the league. No More Mr. Nice Guys.

It is really hard for a team with inferior talent to have what u call a killer instinct. Sure, they can come out with good intentions but once the better team takes over, the lesser team fades. 

[WERC82]

15 hours ago, Moosejawcolt said:

It is really hard for a team with inferior talent to have what u call a killer instinct. Sure, they can come out with good intentions but once the better team takes over, the lesser team fades. 

They talent is there but Bradley's schemes are Reichish. Rush four straight ahead all day is too easy to block. Then you have DB's that have to cover too long. Which leads to down too many points to keep running the ball on offense. Bradley's play calling put our defenders at a disadvantage, just like Reich's offense did for our offensive line. When your tendencies are so predictable you're gonna get beat more often than not. The only thing we for sure lack in talent is a marquee edge rusher and pass catchers that can block. That and Minshew is our QB. The rest is masked by a terrible defensive scheme and playing from behind because of it.