Saquon Barkley is a Bo Jackson, Barry Sanders Hybrid! You don't pass on that period!

[Dark Superman]

Just now, Andrew Luck fan club said:

As good as college Bosa. So get outta here 

Well, you don’t draft prospects on stats. 

I'm not concerned about how good players are in college.

How many guys dominant in college and then flop in the NFL. A LOT.

Joey Bosa came in and showed he was worth being a top 10 pick.

Chubb didn't even get drafted yet.

 

You shouldn't pick a guy solely based on stats, but you know damn well these coaches, scouts, and GM's are looking at everything when it comes to drafting these kids.

[akcolt]

1 minute ago, Andrew Luck fan club said:

Fan base might not have learned from the Manning days. But I’ll bet Irsay and Ballard know what wins championships. 

Great players win championships 

[Dark Superman]

6 minutes ago, Andrew Luck fan club said:

Says the stat watcher lol. 

Were you talking about Barkley or Elliot when you said he didn't do anything when his LT went down?

[jshipp23]

3 minutes ago, Andrew Luck fan club said:

Fan base might not have learned from the Manning days. But I’ll bet Irsay and Ballard know what wins championships. 

Free agency...85 million..get a proven guard and edge already developed..Draft the physical freak rb that'll give belichik nighmares..

[coltsnation]

Saquon is great, but not Barry Sanders, and definitely not Bo.  Chubb is safer and is at a position of greater need.  Best case scenario we trade down and get more picks.  I believe McDaniels can do damage with our current RBs and maybe draft one later (michel, johnson, adams, etc) the RB class is ridiculous 

[jshipp23]

2 minutes ago, akcolt said:

Great players win championships 

Truth!!!

[akcolt]

1 minute ago, jshipp23 said:

Free agency...85 million..get a proven guard and edge already debeloped..Draft the physical freak rb that'll give belichik nighmares..

There is the problem game changing pass rushing Edge players rarely hit FA. Don't see one this year do you? 

[Andrew Luck fan club]

4 minutes ago, KING. said:

I'm not concerned about how good players are in college.

How many guys dominant in college and then flop in the NFL. A LOT.

Joey Bosa came in and showed he was worth being a top 10 pick.

Chubb didn't even get drafted yet.

 

You shouldn't pick a guy solely based on stats, but you know damn well these coaches, scouts, and GM's are looking at everything when it comes to drafting these kids.

If by everything, you mean the game film, sure. 

4 minutes ago, akcolt said:

Great players win championships 

How many AP win? What about LT? 

You NEED a good defense. 

 

3 minutes ago, jshipp23 said:

Free agency...85 million..get a proven guard and edge already developed..Draft the physical freak rb that'll give belichik nighmares..

 

Who’s the already developed EDGE? lol 

[Andrew Luck fan club]

2 minutes ago, akcolt said:

There is the problem game changing pass rushing Edge players rarely hit FA. Don't see one this year do you? 

Good thing we’re finally in position to draft one. 

[2006Coltsbestever]

5 minutes ago, Andrew Luck fan club said:

Fan base might not have learned from the Manning days. But I’ll bet Irsay and Ballard know what wins championships. 

A lot of things win Championships. Circumstances win Championships for example. Take the Patriots out of the equation we probably have 3 or 4 more SB appearances. Defenses and Offenses win Championships. I just don't feel good passing on maybe once in a lifetime player at RB for a DE that may not even be as Good as Mario Williams or Clowney. Myles Garrett was touted as the best DE to come out of the Draft since Reggie White by the media. Dude only had 7 sacks and the Browns went 0-16. So if we Draft Barkley why bash it? 

[jshipp23]

3 minutes ago, akcolt said:

There is the problem game changing pass rushing Edge players rarely hit FA. Don't see one this year do you? 

I agree...if barkley aint there im taking chubb..i have no doubts about barkley though..Chubb is no guarantee. .Barkley IS

[jshipp23]

3 minutes ago, Andrew Luck fan club said:

If by everything, you mean the game film, sure. 

How many AP win? What about LT? 

You NEED a good defense. 

 

 

Who’s the already developed EDGE? lol 

Ansah and Lawrence

[jshipp23]

3 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

A lot of things win Championships. Circumstances win Championships for example. Take the Patriots out of the equation we probably have 3 or 4 more SB appearances. Defenses and Offenses win Championships. I just don't feel good passing on maybe once in a lifetime player at RB for a DE that may not even be as Good as Mario Williams or Clowney. Myles Garrett was touted as the best DE to come out of the Draft since Reggie White by the media. Dude only had 7 sacks and the Browns went 0-16. So if we Draft Barkley why bash it? 

Right? They don't get it? Baffles my mind...

[esmort]

3 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

A lot of things win Championships. Circumstances win Championships for example. Take the Patriots out of the equation we probably have 3 or 4 more SB appearances. Defenses and Offenses win Championships. I just don't feel good passing on maybe once in a lifetime player at RB for a DE that may not even be as Good as Mario Williams or Clowney. Myles Garrett was touted as the best DE to come out of the Draft since Reggie White by the media. Dude only had 7 sacks and the Browns went 0-16. So if we Draft Barkley why bash it? 

 

Come on now ... ... Don't go there ... It's a joke cliche at this point.

[2006Coltsbestever]

3 minutes ago, esmort said:

 

Come on now ... ... Don't go there ... It's a joke cliche at this point.

I think the guy has the potential to be a Great RB and end up Top 5 ever. I haven't said that about any RB since Barry Sanders got Drafted in 1989. I said the same about Eric Dickerson in 83 when he got Drafted. I don't throw around stuff loosely like this.

[Andrew Luck fan club]

4 minutes ago, jshipp23 said:

Ansah and Lawrence

Not a big fan of Ansah. Lawrence would be awesome. But the chance of Lawrence hitting FA is slim to none, because Dallas knows how hard it is to get a pass rusher. Even with their little cap space, they’ll find a way to keep him. 

6 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

A lot of things win Championships. Circumstances win Championships for example. Take the Patriots out of the equation we probably have 3 or 4 more SB appearances. Defenses and Offenses win Championships. I just don't feel good passing on maybe once in a lifetime player at RB for a DE that may not even be as Good as Mario Williams or Clowney. Myles Garrett was touted as the best DE to come out of the Draft since Reggie White by the media. Dude only had 7 sacks and the Browns went 0-16. So if we Draft Barkley why bash it? 

The patriots have had great ranked defenses every year they’ve won. 

 

Saquon is not a generational talent. He is very talented yes, but I personally think Gurley and Zeke were better. 

 

How Myles Garret performed in Cleveland is irrelevant. He was raw anyways, drafted for his traits and potential.  7 sacks as a rookie isn’t bad though, I don’t think he started all 16 games. 

 

If we draft Barkley I won’t bash it, I’ll accept it. Like I said he’s really talented. But I’d rather have the great pass rusher. 

[jshipp23]

1 minute ago, Andrew Luck fan club said:

Not a big fan of Ansah. Lawrence would be awesome. But the chance of Lawrence hitting FA is slim to none, because Dallas knows how hard it is to get a pass rusher. Even with their little cap space, they’ll find a way to keep him. 

The patriots have had great ranked defenses every year they’ve won. 

 

Saquon is not a generational talent. He is very talented yes, but I personally think Gurley and Zeke were better. 

 

How Myles Garret performed in Cleveland is irrelevant. He was raw anyways, drafted for his traits and potential.  7 sacks as a rookie isn’t bad though, I don’t think he started all 16 games. 

 

If we draft Barkley I won’t bash it, I’ll accept it. Like I said he’s really talented. But I’d rather have the great pass rusher. 

When he starts putting on a show ill remember doubters on here...

[2006Coltsbestever]

1 minute ago, Andrew Luck fan club said:

Not a big fan of Ansah. Lawrence would be awesome. But the chance of Lawrence hitting FA is slim to none, because Dallas knows how hard it is to get a pass rusher. Even with their little cap space, they’ll find a way to keep him. 

The patriots have had great ranked defenses every year they’ve won. 

 

Saquon is not a generational talent. He is very talented yes, but I personally think Gurley and Zeke were better. 

 

How Myles Garret performed in Cleveland is irrelevant. He was raw anyways, drafted for his traits and potential.  7 sacks as a rookie isn’t bad though, I don’t think he started all 16 games. 

 

If we draft Barkley I won’t bash it, I’ll accept it. Like I said he’s really talented. But I’d rather have the great pass rusher. 

What makes you think Chubb will be Great though. I have watched his film and to me he doesn't even look better than Clowney did in college. Clowney is Good but isn't a generational DE.

[jshipp23]

5 minutes ago, Andrew Luck fan club said:

Not a big fan of Ansah. Lawrence would be awesome. But the chance of Lawrence hitting FA is slim to none, because Dallas knows how hard it is to get a pass rusher. Even with their little cap space, they’ll find a way to keep him. 

The patriots have had great ranked defenses every year they’ve won. 

 

Saquon is not a generational talent. He is very talented yes, but I personally think Gurley and Zeke were better. 

 

How Myles Garret performed in Cleveland is irrelevant. He was raw anyways, drafted for his traits and potential.  7 sacks as a rookie isn’t bad though, I don’t think he started all 16 games. 

 

If we draft Barkley I won’t bash it, I’ll accept it. Like I said he’s really talented. But I’d rather have the great pass rusher. 

Last yr chubb wouldnt be top 10..No guarantee he will be great..If we go defense its Fitzpatrick for me..He is the truth. .High probability barkley is gone when we pick..

[OhioColt]

PASS...We have more pressing needs as a team (Roquan Smith/Bradly Chubb)...can not see the Colts taking Barkley in Round 1 when you can take his clone Sony Michel in Round 2.

 

 

[Dark Superman]

Defense seems like the obvious choice at #3 but the Colts NEED to add talent around Luck.

Because without Luck, the Colts can have all the Bradley Chubb's they want, but without Luck, the Colts have no chance at winning it all.

Give Luck some weapons and blocking, and I believe he can win a ring with an average defense.

[2006Coltsbestever]

I don't want to turn this into a bash Chubb Thread because if we Draft him I will be ok with it. Meaning I think he has tons of potential but just not sure he will even be the next Freeney.

[Dark Superman]

Luck went 11-5 three years in a row with no defense, offensive line, no running game, and one pro bowl receiver.

[esmort]

Just now, jshipp23 said:

When he starts putting on a show ill remember doubters on here...

 

When he puts on a show and the Colts still lose like they did with Peyton and Edge because of our defense will you remember that too?

 

Or maybe we can remember that Tomlinson couldn't get the chargers there in his career year ... and we did after losing Edge ?

 

RBs don't drive this league.

[Andrew Luck fan club]

2 minutes ago, jshipp23 said:

When he starts putting on a show ill remember doubters on here...

Lol I said he’s really talented so I don’t know what you’re talking about. I don’t want him at #3. 

1 minute ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

What makes you think Chubb will be Great though. I have watched his film and to me he doesn't even look better than Clowney did in college. Clowney is Good but isn't a generational DE.

Clowney is a monster, like top 3 at his position. Clowney and Myles Garret are in their own class. Joey Bosa is in a tier below, and where I have Chubb, which is still a great place to be. 

 

His agility at 6'4 1/2" and 275 lbs is pretty damn rare. Has strong hands. Good bend around the edge. The best pass rusher almost never lasts past the top 5. 

[Andrew Luck fan club]

4 minutes ago, jshipp23 said:

Last yr chubb wouldnt be top 10..No guarantee he will be great..If we go defense its Fitzpatrick for me..He is the truth. .High probability barkley is gone when we pick..

You would take a FS? lol can’t take you serious right now bro

[2006Coltsbestever]

Just now, esmort said:

 

When he puts on a show and the Colts still lose like they did with Peyton and Edge because of our defense will you remember that too?

 

Or maybe we can remember that Tomlinson couldn't get the chargers there in his career year ... and we did after losing Edge ?

 

RBs don't drive this league.

Who says that will happen? Maybe we can Draft Barkley and still build a solid Defense within the next 3 years. Like said earlier we would've won more SB's but the Pats were just better. We had the team to do it but ran into a Dynasty. Crap happens, we still won nearly 70% of our games and a SB.

[OhioColt]

Potential we switch back to a 4-3 defense...Freeney is available as a FA

[jshipp23]

1 minute ago, esmort said:

 

When he puts on a show and the Colts still lose like they did with Peyton and Edge because of our defense will you remember that too?

 

Or maybe we can remember that Tomlinson couldn't get the chargers there in his career year ... and we did after losing Edge ?

 

RBs don't drive this league.

So is chubb that guy though? I think Barkley is...Ill go with sure thing..Chubb is a wildcard..

[jshipp23]

3 minutes ago, Andrew Luck fan club said:

You would take a FS? lol can’t take you serious right now bro

Yeah ill take gamechangers over potential

[Andrew Luck fan club]

Just now, jshipp23 said:

Yeah ill take gamechangers over potential

So we’ll take a FS in the 1st two years in a row lolololol

[OhioColt]

Round 1 give me LB Roquan Smith FTW

[Andrew Luck fan club]

>insinuating that Chubb isn’t a game changer loool

[2006Coltsbestever]

4 minutes ago, Andrew Luck fan club said:

Lol I said he’s really talented so I don’t know what you’re talking about. I don’t want him at #3. 

Clowney is a monster, like top 3 at his position. Clowney and Myles Garret are in their own class. Joey Bosa is in a tier below, and where I have Chubb, which is still a great place to be. 

 

His agility at 6'4 1/2" and 275 lbs is pretty damn rare. Has strong hands. Good bend around the edge. The best pass rusher almost never lasts past the top 5. 

Clowney is injury prone though and Bosa is Good but nowhere Great. Garrett didn't have a Great Rookie year so we will see. 7 Sacks and 0-16, just posting facts.

[jshipp23]

5 minutes ago, Andrew Luck fan club said:

You would take a FS? lol can’t take you serious right now bro

He is actually #1 cb as well..lol..He is # 1 at both

[OhioColt]

What are your guys take on Edge Ogbonnia Okoronkwo in Round 2?

[Andrew Luck fan club]

1 minute ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Clowney is injury prone though and Bosa is Good but nowhere Great. Garrett didn't have a Great Rookie year so we will see. 7 Sacks and 0-16, just posting facts.

His injuries have nothing to do with his talent. Bosa is more than good. I already explained Garret, have no idea why the Cleveland browns going 0-16 is relevant. 

Just now, jshipp23 said:

He is actually #1 cb as well..lol..He is # 1 at both

No he’s not lol. He’s not Jalen Ramsey. 

[esmort]

2 minutes ago, jshipp23 said:

So is chubb that guy though? I think Barkley is...Ill go with sure thing..Chubb is a wildcard..

 

I don't know if Chubb is that guy ... I am not banging the table for him .. I want to trade down ... but right now if we have to stay at #3 I would take Chubb before Barkley or Nelson. My opinion may change by draft day depending on FA, Senior Bowl, Combine, Luck, etc ... but I don't see anything realistic happening where I would want Barkley(or any RB) at #3.

[jshipp23]

Barkley or Fitz or die.....Lawrence or ANSAH  WONT cost a pick

[2006Coltsbestever]

1 minute ago, Andrew Luck fan club said:

His injuries have nothing to do with his talent. Bosa is more than good. I already explained Garret, have no idea why the Cleveland browns going 0-16 is relevant. 

No he’s not lol. He’s not Jalen Ramsey. 

It's relevant because this proves a DE can have no affect on winning no matter how great his talent is. People say that about RB's on here, well I just gave everyone the best example possible of a DE that had 0 outcome on any game.