Draft Day Scenarios

[Indeee]

1) Browns take Barkley at 1 if.... Denver acquires Cousins in FA, knowing they could grab Allen at 4

2) Browns take Josh Allen at 1 if.... Denver cannot acquire Cousins, believing Broncos may trade up ahead of 4 to take Allen

 

If Browns take Barkley at 1 then the Giants will trade the #2 pick to either the Jets or Broncos(most likely the Jets)

 

3) Jets take Rosen at #2 overall, Giants move back to #6. *My thinking in this scenario is that the Giants, although QB "future needy" is content with Eli for another year or 2, so trading back gets them a chance to grab Fitpatrick to replace Apple or a lineman such as Williams, Mcglinchey or Nelson

 

3a) Broncos take Rosen at #2 overall, Giants move back to #5. *My thinking in this scenario is that the Giants, although QB "future needy" is content with Eli for another year or 2, so trading back gets them a chance to grab Fitpatrick to replace Apple or a lineman such as Williams, Mcglinchey or Nelson

 

If Browns take Allen at 1 then the Giants will trade the #2 overall pick to either the Jets, Broncos or Niners. *My thinking here is same as above regarding the QB, however most would expect Giants, who need an RB too would take Barkley. I don't have Giants taking barkley only because I believe they will sign Hyde or Ingram in FA. The niners come into play here as they would definitely want Barkley so could make a move up to second overall if they believe the Colts could want Barkley at 3, Giants would drop to 9, miss out on Fitzpatrick but still be able to grab BPA lineman left at 9

 

The Colts trade pick at 3 only if Barkley and Rosen is off the board and Allen is still there or they really do not want Barkley, in which case they could swap with Browns if Browns want Barkley or Allen(Browns fearing Jets or broncos would move up in trade with Colts) or with niners if the price is right. Not sure I believe they would drop to 9 unless they believe Williams, mcGlinchey or Nelson would still be there

 

4) If Colts stay put and Barkley is there, Colts may take Barkley as BPA, not necessarily a huge need

 

5) If Colts stay put and Barkley is gone, Colts take Nelson which by their board may be BPA and is a HUGE need.

 

In any circumstance I do not see the Colts taking Chubb at 3 or 4 if they swapped with Browns based on Browns wanting Barkley

 

**Wildcard... Colts may swap with niners if barkley is still there only if the trade involved picks and potentially Armstead in the deal at which point Colts get pass rusher who niners have been soured on and BPA O-line left at 9 (this scenario I highly doubt though)

 

In any event should be interesting night

[Indeee]

**Actually Buccaneers could be in play to move up as well if Barkley is still on the board as Martin is washed up and barber/Rodgers/Sims all stink

[richard pallo]

I could see a trade with the Broncos if they make Shane Ray part of the deal.  Could possibly get Nelson with that pick. 

[Indeee]

Also after thinking about this, I could see the Browns trading from 4 up to 2 with giants after taking Allen at 1 to get Barkley.

 

My thinking is IF Giants want Rosen and knowing Colts not looking for a QB, Giants trade back to 4 and could still get Rosen.

 

This is where it gets interesting for the Colts because if Giants think Jets or Broncos would trade with Colts to get Rosen and/or Donald then Giants may try to trade with Colts to swap 3 for 4.

 

Wouldn't it be cool if 1 of these 2 next scenarios happened in that event.

 

1) Giants trade with Colts by swapping 3 for 4, giving Colts additional draft picks and potentially Eli Apple in the deal. Apple has worn out his welcome in NY and is still on manageable contract and Indy needs CB

 

Or.. And I know this is super far fetched and probably would never happen, but what if...

 

2) Giants trade with Colts by swapping 3 for 4, giving Colts additional picks, Colts send TY to NY and Giants send Beckham to Indy. My thinking id TY still has 3 years on current deal which giants could manage, all guaranteed money has been paid and Beckham wants a NEW contract currently which the Giants may not be able to afford but the Colts surely could.

 

That, even though highly improbable, would be AWESOME!!

 

Ha!!... It's gonna be fun

[ColtsFan1981]

Tell me what you think of this scenario...what parts work, what parts don’t, and what would you do different...

 

1. Trade Andrew Luck to the Cleveland Browns for picks 1, 4, 33, 35 in 2018; and 1st and 2nd round picks in 2019.

2. Trade 2018 #1 pick (via CLE) to the Jets for picks 6, 37, 49 in 2018; and 1st and 2nd round picks in 2019; and 1st round pick in 2020.

3. Trade 2018 #4 pick (via CLE from HOU) to Arizona for picks 15, 47 in 2018; 1st and 2nd round picks in 2019; and 1stround pick in 2020.

4. Trade 2018 #3 pick to Denver for picks 5, 40, 71 in 2018; and 1st round pick in 2019; and 1st round pick in 2020

5. Trade 2018 #15 pick and #49 pick to Buffalo for picks 22, 26, 53 in 2018.

6. Trade 2018 #22 and 40, and 2019 Denver 1st rounder and Arizona 2nd rounder to 49ers for pick 9 in 2018.

7. Trade Jacoby Brissett to Redskins for 2018 pick 78

***Draft***

Colts Picks in 2018:  

Round 1:   5, 6, 9, 22

Round 2:  33, 35, 36, 37, 47, 53

Round 3:  67, 71, 78

Round 4:  100

Round 5:  131

Round 6:  164

Round 7:  195

Colts Extra Picks in 2019:

Round 1:  Browns pick, Jets pick, Arizona pick

Round 2:  Browns pick, Jets pick

Colts Extra Picks in 2020:

Round 1:  Jets pick, Arizona pick, Denver pick

 

8. Draft Bradley Chubb, DE, NC State with 1st round #5 pick.

9. Draft Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State with 1st round  #6 pick.

10. Draft Quenton Nelson, OG, Notre Dame with 1st round # 9 pick.

11. Draft either Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma; Lamar Jackson, QB, Louisville; or Mason Rudolph, QB Oklahoma State with 1st round #22 pick.

12. Draft Bryce Love, RB, Stanford with 2nd round # 33 pick.

13. Draft Christian Kirk, WR, Texas A&M with 2nd round #35 pick.

14. Draft Billy Price, OG, Ohio State with 2nd round #36 pick.

15. Draft Chukwuma Okorafor, OT, Western Michigan with 2nd round #37 pick.

16. Draft Malik Jefferson, OLB/ILB, Texas with 2nd round # 47 pick.

17. Draft Derrick Nnadi, DT, Florida State with 2nd round #53 pick.

18. Draft Lorenzo Carter, OLB, Georgia with 3rd round pick #67.

19. Draft Luke Falk, QB, Washington State with 3rd round pick #71.

20. Draft Marcus Allen, S, Penn State with 3rd round pick #78.

21. Draft Rashaad Penny, RB, San Diego State with 4th round pick #100.

22. Draft Anthony Averett, CB, Alabama with 5th round pick #131.

23. Draft Rasheem Green, DE, USC with 6th round pick #164.

24. Draft Eddy Pineiro, K, Florida with 7th round pick #195.

*** Free Agency***

Sign Kirk Cousins to a 4 year $130 million contract at $20million per year guaranteed, a $40 million signing bonus and $10 million in incentives.  Develop 2018 Drafted QBs with intent to replace Cousins in 2022 at the age of 34.

25. Sign Ezekiel Ansah, DE to a 3 year $38 million contract at $9.5 million per year, a $6 million signing bonus and $3.5 million in incentives.

26. Sign Nate Solder, LT to a 3 year $40 million contract at $9.5 million per year, a $9 million signing bonus and $2.5 million in incentives.

27. Sign Trumaine Johnson, CB to a 5 year $80 million contract at $10 million per year, a $20 million signing bonus and $10 million in incentives.

28. Sign Allen Robinson, WR to a 3 year $21 million contract at $4 million per year, a $6 million signing bonus and $3 million in incentives.

29. Sign Jordan Matthews to a 3 year $15 million contract at $3 million per year, a $3 million signing bonus and $3 million in incentives

Edited January 4, 2018 by Nadine
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[ColtsFan1981]

Here is the salary cap impacts and changes, I’m not a pro...so forgive me if I’m off or missing key factors...

 

*** Salary Cap***

2018:

$82 million in original cap space

$24 million 2018 cap space cleared for Luck contract trade

$0.7 million 2018 cap space cleared for Brissett trade

$1.1 million for cutting Robert Turbin

$0.7 million for cutting George Winn

$0.6 million for cutting Josh Ferguson

$109.3 million total available cap space for 2018

-$32.5 million to Cousins

-$12.7 million to Ansah

-$13.3 million to Solder

-$16 million to Johnson

-$7 million to Robinson

-$5 million to Matthews

$22.6 million under the 2018 Cap before signing draft picks.

2019: 

$69.8 million in original cap space

+$27.5 million 2019 cap space cleared for Luck contract trade

$97.3 million total available cap space for 2019

-$32.5 million to Cousins

-$12.7 million to Ansah

-$13.3 million to Solder

-$16 million to Johnson

-$7 million to Robinson

-$5 million to Matthews

$10.8 million under the 2019 Cap before signing draft picks.

+$11 million for cutting Anthony Castonzo

+$0.9 million for cutting La’Raven Clark

+$0.9 million for trading Jacoby Brissett

+$0.8 million for cutting Joe Haeg

+$0.6 million for cutting Deyshawn Bond

+$1.1 million for cutting Robert Turbin

+$0.7 million for cutting George Winn

+$0.6 million for cutting Josh Ferguson

$25 million under the 2019 Cap before signing draft picks.

2020:

$122 million in original cap space

+$28.4 million 2020 cap space cleared for Luck contract trade

$150.4 million in available cap space for 2020

-$32.5 million to Cousins

-$12.7 million to Ansah

-$13.3 million to Solder

-$16 million to Johnson

-$7 million to Robinson

-$5 million to Matthews

$63.9 million under the 2020 salary cap before signing draft picks.

 

Edited January 4, 2018 by Nadine
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[ColtsFan1981]

And here is what the roster for 2018 could look like...rookies are identified with an (R)...

 

 

***Roster***

QBs:

-Kirk Cousins

-(R)Baker Mayfield/Lamar Jackson/Mason Rudolph (depending on who is available)

-(R)Luke Falk

-Brad Kaaya

RBs:

-Marlon Mack

-(R)Saquan Barkley

-(R)Bryce Love

-(R)Rashaad Penny

WRs:

-T.Y. Hilton

-Allen Robinson

-Jordan Matthews

-(R)Christian Kirk

-Chester Rogers

-K.J. Brent

TEs:

-Jack Doyle

-Ross Travis

-Darrell Daniels

O-Line:

-Anthony Castonzo LT

-Ryan Kelly C

-Nate Solder LT

-(R)Quenton Nelson OG

-(R)Billy Price OG

-(R)Chukwuma Okorafor OT

-Le’Raven Clark RT

-Tyreek Burwell T

-Mark Glowinski G

-Joe Haeg G

-Anthony Fabiano T

-Deyshawn Bond G

D-Line

-(R)Bradley Chubb

-(R)Derrick Nnadi

-(R)Rasheem Green

-Ezekiel Ansah DE

-Johnathon Hankins DT

-Margus Hunt DT

-Al Woods DT

-Henry Anderson DE

-Caraun Reid DE

-Hassan Ridgeway DE

-Anthony Johnson DE

-Grover Stewart DT

LBs:

-(R)Malik Jefferson OLB/ILB

-(R)Lorenzo Carter OLB

-Jabbaal Sheard OLB

-John Simon OLB

-Tarell Basham OLB

-Antonio Morrison ILB

-Jeremiah George ILB

-Anthony Walker Jr ILB

-Jermaine Grace OLB

-Joshua Perry ILB

DBs:

-(R)Marcus Allen S

-(R)Anthony Averett CB

-Trumaine Johnson CB

-Malik Hooker S

-Quincy Wilson CB

-T.J. Green S

-Clayton Geathers FS

-D.J. White CB

-Matthias Farley S

-Ronald Martin SS

-Nate Hairston CB

-Kenny Moore CB

Kickers:

-Adam Vinatieri K

-Rigoberto Sanchez P

-(R)Eddy Pineiro K

 

[Valpo2004]

Look there are plenty of QB needy teams who can jump in there and trade for the Colts pick.  Plus the Giants could also go for a trade down if they decide to keep Eli.  

 

If the new Brown's GM is smart I don't think he messes around and grabs a QB right away.  Now if he really covets Barkley too then he could make a trade with the Colts to give up a couple mid round picks and jump up one spot from 4 to make sure he gets him.  It looks like Cleveland has Philly's 2nd round pick this year, which will be late in the 2nd round, so they could theoretically package that in with a late round pick to jump up one spot and grab Barkley.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Valpo2004]

7 hours ago, ColtsFan1981 said:

Tell me what you think of this scenario...what parts work, what parts don’t, and what would you do different...

 

1. Trade Andrew Luck to the Cleveland Browns for picks 1, 4, 33, 35 in 2018; and 1st and 2nd round picks in 2019.

2. Trade 2018 #1 pick (via CLE) to the Jets for picks 6, 37, 49 in 2018; and 1st and 2nd round picks in 2019; and 1st round pick in 2020.

3. Trade 2018 #4 pick (via CLE from HOU) to Arizona for picks 15, 47 in 2018; 1st and 2nd round picks in 2019; and 1stround pick in 2020.

4. Trade 2018 #3 pick to Denver for picks 5, 40, 71 in 2018; and 1st round pick in 2019; and 1st round pick in 2020

5. Trade 2018 #15 pick and #49 pick to Buffalo for picks 22, 26, 53 in 2018.

6. Trade 2018 #22 and 40, and 2019 Denver 1st rounder and Arizona 2nd rounder to 49ers for pick 9 in 2018.

7. Trade Jacoby Brissett to Redskins for 2018 pick 78

***Draft***

Colts Picks in 2018:  

Round 1:   5, 6, 9, 22

Round 2:  33, 35, 36, 37, 47, 53

Round 3:  67, 71, 78

Round 4:  100

Round 5:  131

Round 6:  164

Round 7:  195

Colts Extra Picks in 2019:

Round 1:  Browns pick, Jets pick, Arizona pick

Round 2:  Browns pick, Jets pick

Colts Extra Picks in 2020:

Round 1:  Jets pick, Arizona pick, Denver pick

 

8. Draft Bradley Chubb, DE, NC State with 1st round #5 pick.

9. Draft Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State with 1st round  #6 pick.

10. Draft Quenton Nelson, OG, Notre Dame with 1st round # 9 pick.

11. Draft either Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma; Lamar Jackson, QB, Louisville; or Mason Rudolph, QB Oklahoma State with 1st round #22 pick.

12. Draft Bryce Love, RB, Stanford with 2nd round # 33 pick.

13. Draft Christian Kirk, WR, Texas A&M with 2nd round #35 pick.

14. Draft Billy Price, OG, Ohio State with 2nd round #36 pick.

15. Draft Chukwuma Okorafor, OT, Western Michigan with 2nd round #37 pick.

16. Draft Malik Jefferson, OLB/ILB, Texas with 2nd round # 47 pick.

17. Draft Derrick Nnadi, DT, Florida State with 2nd round #53 pick.

18. Draft Lorenzo Carter, OLB, Georgia with 3rd round pick #67.

19. Draft Luke Falk, QB, Washington State with 3rd round pick #71.

20. Draft Marcus Allen, S, Penn State with 3rd round pick #78.

21. Draft Rashaad Penny, RB, San Diego State with 4th round pick #100.

22. Draft Anthony Averett, CB, Alabama with 5th round pick #131.

23. Draft Rasheem Green, DE, USC with 6th round pick #164.

24. Draft Eddy Pineiro, K, Florida with 7th round pick #195.

*** Free Agency***

Sign Kirk Cousins to a 4 year $130 million contract at $20million per year guaranteed, a $40 million signing bonus and $10 million in incentives.  Develop 2018 Drafted QBs with intent to replace Cousins in 2022 at the age of 34.

25. Sign Ezekiel Ansah, DE to a 3 year $38 million contract at $9.5 million per year, a $6 million signing bonus and $3.5 million in incentives.

26. Sign Nate Solder, LT to a 3 year $40 million contract at $9.5 million per year, a $9 million signing bonus and $2.5 million in incentives.

27. Sign Trumaine Johnson, CB to a 5 year $80 million contract at $10 million per year, a $20 million signing bonus and $10 million in incentives.

28. Sign Allen Robinson, WR to a 3 year $21 million contract at $4 million per year, a $6 million signing bonus and $3 million in incentives.

29. Sign Jordan Matthews to a 3 year $15 million contract at $3 million per year, a $3 million signing bonus and $3 million in incentives

 

No way that would happen. 

 

1. Luck has questions about his health.  It's doubtful Cleveland would give up the top half of 2 drafts for a QB with possible shoulder problems.

 

2. All of that is predicated on Kirk Cousins signing here.  The problem is that you don't want to trade away your QB before you have Cousins inked, otherwise he could get a better offer someplace else and ruin everything.  But Cousins isn't going to ink here until Luck is traded.

 

3. That move would cost us 19.2 M in dead money and would severely hamper our salary cap.  

 

4. You have to consider fan issues here.  Fans don't like to see their franchise QB traded away.  You quite simply can't take a guy like Andrew Luck and trade him away without the fans getting upset.  

[DraftMaster]

7 hours ago, ColtsFan1981 said:

Tell me what you think of this scenario...what parts work, what parts don’t, and what would you do different...

 

1. Trade Andrew Luck to the Cleveland Browns for picks 1, 4, 33, 35 in 2018; and 1st and 2nd round picks in 2019.

2. Trade 2018 #1 pick (via CLE) to the Jets for picks 6, 37, 49 in 2018; and 1st and 2nd round picks in 2019; and 1st round pick in 2020.

3. Trade 2018 #4 pick (via CLE from HOU) to Arizona for picks 15, 47 in 2018; 1st and 2nd round picks in 2019; and 1stround pick in 2020.

4. Trade 2018 #3 pick to Denver for picks 5, 40, 71 in 2018; and 1st round pick in 2019; and 1st round pick in 2020

5. Trade 2018 #15 pick and #49 pick to Buffalo for picks 22, 26, 53 in 2018.

6. Trade 2018 #22 and 40, and 2019 Denver 1st rounder and Arizona 2nd rounder to 49ers for pick 9 in 2018.

7. Trade Jacoby Brissett to Redskins for 2018 pick 78

***Draft***

Colts Picks in 2018:  

Round 1:   5, 6, 9, 22

Round 2:  33, 35, 36, 37, 47, 53

Round 3:  67, 71, 78

Round 4:  100

Round 5:  131

Round 6:  164

Round 7:  195

Colts Extra Picks in 2019:

Round 1:  Browns pick, Jets pick, Arizona pick

Round 2:  Browns pick, Jets pick

Colts Extra Picks in 2020:

Round 1:  Jets pick, Arizona pick, Denver pick

 

8. Draft Bradley Chubb, DE, NC State with 1st round #5 pick.

9. Draft Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State with 1st round  #6 pick.

10. Draft Quenton Nelson, OG, Notre Dame with 1st round # 9 pick.

11. Draft either Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma; Lamar Jackson, QB, Louisville; or Mason Rudolph, QB Oklahoma State with 1st round #22 pick.

12. Draft Bryce Love, RB, Stanford with 2nd round # 33 pick.

13. Draft Christian Kirk, WR, Texas A&M with 2nd round #35 pick.

14. Draft Billy Price, OG, Ohio State with 2nd round #36 pick.

15. Draft Chukwuma Okorafor, OT, Western Michigan with 2nd round #37 pick.

16. Draft Malik Jefferson, OLB/ILB, Texas with 2nd round # 47 pick.

17. Draft Derrick Nnadi, DT, Florida State with 2nd round #53 pick.

18. Draft Lorenzo Carter, OLB, Georgia with 3rd round pick #67.

19. Draft Luke Falk, QB, Washington State with 3rd round pick #71.

20. Draft Marcus Allen, S, Penn State with 3rd round pick #78.

21. Draft Rashaad Penny, RB, San Diego State with 4th round pick #100.

22. Draft Anthony Averett, CB, Alabama with 5th round pick #131.

23. Draft Rasheem Green, DE, USC with 6th round pick #164.

24. Draft Eddy Pineiro, K, Florida with 7th round pick #195.

*** Free Agency***

Sign Kirk Cousins to a 4 year $130 million contract at $20million per year guaranteed, a $40 million signing bonus and $10 million in incentives.  Develop 2018 Drafted QBs with intent to replace Cousins in 2022 at the age of 34.

25. Sign Ezekiel Ansah, DE to a 3 year $38 million contract at $9.5 million per year, a $6 million signing bonus and $3.5 million in incentives.

26. Sign Nate Solder, LT to a 3 year $40 million contract at $9.5 million per year, a $9 million signing bonus and $2.5 million in incentives.

27. Sign Trumaine Johnson, CB to a 5 year $80 million contract at $10 million per year, a $20 million signing bonus and $10 million in incentives.

28. Sign Allen Robinson, WR to a 3 year $21 million contract at $4 million per year, a $6 million signing bonus and $3 million in incentives.

29. Sign Jordan Matthews to a 3 year $15 million contract at $3 million per year, a $3 million signing bonus and $3 million in incentives

Looks nice besides trading Andrew Luck.

[FalseStart]

Coach: Eric Richard or Frank Reich...

 

FA: Norwell G, Bryant WR, Johnson CB, etc...

 

Browns draft non-qb with #1 (Saquon Barkley)...Giants Draft either Rosen or Darnold or non-qb...Colts are in business for #3.  Trade out with say Cleveland's #4 and their #33 & #36...Cleveland takes either Darnold or Rosen...Colts then trade out of #4...w/Jets (Could also be applied if we trade with Denver, Miami or Arizona) for Jets #6 and #38...  Jets select a QB...Colts trade #6 to Denver for #7 and #39 Denver Selects QB at #6. Colts Select at #7;

 

RD1 (#7): Bradley Chubb DE or Mike McGlinchey OT  (Depends on Giants-Tampa Bay)

RD2 (#33): Rashaan Evans ILB or Roquan Smith ILB.

RD2 (#35): Joshua Jackson CB or Tarvarus McFadden CB.

RD2 (#36): Maurice Hurst DT or Jamarco Jones OT.

RD2 (#38): Martinas Rankin OT or Reginald McKenzie Jr. DT

RD2 (#39): Tyquan Lewis EDGE or Cameron Smith ILB

RD3 (#67): Sony Michel RB or Marcus Davenport EDGE

RD4: (#99): Holton Hill CB or Nick Chubb RB

RD5:  BPA...

 

Rebuild complete...Go Colts Ha.

 

http://drafttek.com/2018-NFL-Mock-Draft-Round1.asp

[DaveA1102]

15 hours ago, FalseStart said:

Coach: Eric Richard or Frank Reich...

 

FA: Norwell G, Bryant WR, Johnson CB, etc...

 

Browns draft non-qb with #1 (Saquon Barkley)...Giants Draft either Rosen or Darnold or non-qb...Colts are in business for #3.  Trade out with say Cleveland's #4 and their #33 & #36...Cleveland takes either Darnold or Rosen...Colts then trade out of #4...w/Jets (Could also be applied if we trade with Denver, Miami or Arizona) for Jets #6 and #38...  Jets select a QB...Colts trade #6 to Denver for #7 and #39 Denver Selects QB at #6. Colts Select at #7;

 

RD1 (#7): Bradley Chubb DE or Mike McGlinchey OT  (Depends on Giants-Tampa Bay)

RD2 (#33): Rashaan Evans ILB or Roquan Smith ILB.

RD2 (#35): Joshua Jackson CB or Tarvarus McFadden CB.

RD2 (#36): Maurice Hurst DT or Jamarco Jones OT.

RD2 (#38): Martinas Rankin OT or Reginald McKenzie Jr. DT

RD2 (#39): Tyquan Lewis EDGE or Cameron Smith ILB

RD3 (#67): Sony Michel RB or Marcus Davenport EDGE

RD4: (#99): Holton Hill CB or Nick Chubb RB

RD5:  BPA...

 

Rebuild complete...Go Colts Ha.

 

http://drafttek.com/2018-NFL-Mock-Draft-Round1.asp

 

No thanks on Bryant.  He has been terrible this year.

 

Also, its unlikely all those teams will trade up 1 or 2 places with the Colts when they know we don't need a QB.  More likely to try and get a kings ransom from one for our 3rd and do it in one.

[DaveA1102]

@ColtsFan1981 Wow, firstly there was a lot of thought and consideration gone into those posts and so thanks for the effort, interesting reading.  Not picking holes in your post, just a few things to mention:

 

I really don't see any way we trade Luck.  I for one would be devastated, but the logistics of trading that contract (even to the Browns) is a huge issue.

 

I can't see any way that both Barkley and Chubb are still on the table at #5 and #6.  Even with QB needy teams, those guys appears too hot to pass if you get to #3 and #4.  That can change though.

 

I think you are underselling Brissett at a trade for #78.  I would be looking for a high second round pick I think.  He has his faults but is only just finishing his 2nd year as a pro.

 

The one thing I am fully on board with is Robinson from the Jags.  Him and TY could be deadly with Luck back.

[OffensivelyPC]

On 1/4/2018 at 2:10 AM, ColtsFan1981 said:

Tell me what you think of this scenario...what parts work, what parts don’t, and what would you do different...

 

1. Trade Andrew Luck to the Cleveland Browns for picks 1, 4, 33, 35 in 2018; and 1st and 2nd round picks in 2019.

 

We just won't get that much for Luck given how much time he has missed in 2015-2017.  We do'nt even know if he'll come back in 2018 healthy.  The prospect of it isn't dismal, but even if he does come back, we don't know how effective he will be.  No team would give up that kind of collateral on a hunch without knowing his medical status.

[dgambill]

And I thought I spent too much time on these boards.....wow!! All that is missing is a power point presentation. Some of you guys should ask for a sit down with Irsay because its clear Ballard has no clue what is going on passing on these opportunities.

[FalseStart]

5 hours ago, dgambill said:

And I thought I spent too much time on these boards.....wow!! All that is missing is a power point presentation. Some of you guys should ask for a sit down with Irsay because its clear Ballard has no clue what is going on passing on these opportunities.

 

Ha.  "Who's the more foolish, the fool, or the fool who follows him?" -Obi-Wan Kenobi  

[Dark Superman]

If the Colts re-sign Mewhort and snag a guard in FA, I could see them drafting Connor Williams to play RT as a rookie, especially with Anthony's contract expiring at the end of next season. They could eventually move Connor over to LT if needed, but Nelson is also a beast. I would love to have either one of them.

[ColtJax]

#1, 2 and 3 will be Donald, Rosen and Allen in any order, which ,means we trade down. I can see us trading down to 4 with the browns in exchange for their #3 so it would allow them to take Barkley and get one of the three. I can also see us trading down with the Jets or Redskins, Bronco's and pick up another high #2 pick and maybe next years #1. We have too many needs to stay at 3 if the QB's are in swing. Besides, we could trade down with the Jets, get their #2 and #4 this year and maybe a #2 next year and get Chubb. That high #2 with our own #2 means 2 more impact players.

[DaColts85]

Personally I think the draft will go much different than anticipated.  The Browns new GM is familiar with Alex Smith, and rumors are he might be on another team next year.  He goes to Cleveland who need experience over yet another rookie.  This then allows them to trade back with someone like the Jets or whoever that wants someone specific and worry about the Giants or another team moving up for them.  This then makes our pick far less valuable unless another team gets spooked and might want to safely grab the 3rd QB (assuming Giants draft a QB).  I am a believer the Broncos will not budge and the Jets might be the only team willing to make a jump.  I hope I am wrong though and we have the ability to move back a little.

[richard pallo]

20 minutes ago, DaColts85 said:

Personally I think the draft will go much different than anticipated.  The Browns new GM is familiar with Alex Smith, and rumors are he might be on another team next year.  He goes to Cleveland who need experience over yet another rookie.  This then allows them to trade back with someone like the Jets or whoever that wants someone specific and worry about the Giants or another team moving up for them.  This then makes our pick far less valuable unless another team gets spooked and might want to safely grab the 3rd QB (assuming Giants draft a QB).  I am a believer the Broncos will not budge and the Jets might be the only team willing to make a jump.  I hope I am wrong though and we have the ability to move back a little.

Don't forget about the Bills.  Smith is also being mentioned as a target for them and they have two first rd. picks this year back to back like 21& 22 or something like that.  I think Smith will have more than one suitor. 

[ColtsGermany]

I can see the Browns keeping their 1st pick and taking Barkley,cause they know we don't need a qb. So with only 2 teams between their first 2 picks and one not taking a qb, they can still get one of the top qb prospects in this draft. And if they are a little bit unsure if they would get their desired qb at 4, cause we could trade down with the jets or broncos, they offer us the 33 ovrl pick and a 3rd or 4th rounder to swap picks with us. 

The Browns would have 2 high quality starters and we 2 more high picks. 

[DaColts85]

2 hours ago, richard pallo said:

Don't forget about the Bills.  Smith is also being mentioned as a target for them and they have two first rd. picks this year back to back like 21& 22 or something like that.  I think Smith will have more than one suitor. 

I don't disagree but the Browns have two first round picks as well that are way more appealing.  Also, the have Dorsey at GM who is very familiar with Smith.  I will say though there will be a lot of interest imo.  QB's might be available this year and some are decent talents as well.