chad72 Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 I would like that, maybe a 5th-6th round pick in a guy like Aaron Corp or Kellen Moore. Anyways, this is a Kyle Orton thread, so if you want to further discuss this, make a thread about it in the NFL Draft section, cause it's not a bad scenario.Just did, so that we can discuss late round QB candidates as well. Given how deep the 2012 QB class is, a 6th round QB may be decent value if he has upside.Plus, given how Matt Schaub, Jay Cutler, Michael Vick, Kevin Kolb, Sam Bradford, Chad Henne have all missed or going to miss games and guys like Hasselback, Romo etc. playing banged up, I bet a LOT of teams are going to re-evaluate their backup QB situation as well. So, we might be wise to stay ahead of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 Again though..Andywhy is it either or??Taking your assumption (from your lips to God's (or Tim Tebow's) ears that Manning will return to 2010 form...I would not choose Luck but if Indy does....he'll be the future//Orton..would be the back up in all scenarios: Manning starting. Luck starting. No Manning or Luck.Lets face it Curtis Painter will not be with the Colts next year..he's shown he cannot be an NFL Backup QB and win a game. Dan Orlovsky is just happy to be here.We need 2 new QBs..They're are countless QBs this year that are rookies and starting, some of which were not drafting in the first round. Andy Dalton is playing well, and he isnt a first round pick. Newton is starting right now and doing well. Luck would not be starting, he would be backing up and the odds of Manning getting injured aren't very likely. Yes he had surgery, but everything would have fused and he would feel fine. Do you really want to spend a lot of money on Kyle Orton just to backup and then to backup Luck? When Luck starts starting, Orton would be thinking about retirement, and I would expect that he would like to play instead of backing up for the next several years. objectivecoltsfan made a good point, what good would we get from it, a backup that would not be used that much. You keep assuming that PM isn't coming back, but odds are he is. If Manning doesn't return, I would rather have Luck to be honest, as Orton doesn't fit the scheme well, has no mobility and will get killed with this line. He is also a terrible field reader, and Luck is surprisingly a good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAC Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 Here's a gift....Denver released Kyle Orton and did us a favor..Sign him to a contract for the rest of this year and next (once he clears waivers)Not only is he better than what we have now..He is a solid No.1 or No. 2 next year defending on what we need.This could free us from the Andrew Luck decsion..and we can spend all our choices on 'D;'Or...he could be No.3 if we end up with a healthly Manning and Luck..MAYBE he would be an acceptable backup, if the price was right and he was willing to accept the role. Regarding the rest of the thought process:You don't actively seek out and spend millions to secure below average quarterbacks like Orton, unless your goal is to be below average. The thought that if everything goes wrong we might not go 0-16 next year with Orton on board does nothing for me. Frankly (just like with the Collins situation this year) I would RATHER go 0-16 - accelerating the rebuilding process - than be stuck in limbo.Orton has lost battles with Rex Grossman, Brian Griese, Jay Cutler, and Tim Tebow (I'm probably missing a few) in the process of being dumped by two different teams. I wouldn't want any of THOSE players anywhere near the Colts, much less the guy that they were all deemed superior to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ech1997 Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 Orton is not a starting QB. He isn't starting. Someone might MAKE him a started, but the only benefit I could see for the Colts is if Manning is STILL not ready next year AND, somehow, the Colts don't get Luck. Too many ifs...bad move.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyrob Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 again..you sign him for this year AND next year.....so we dont have to go 0-16 next season, tooThat's not how it works. If a team picks him up via waivers, they get his current contract. it's not like Colts have any way of making him a better offer than the bears on the waiver wire. Now if he clears waivers, he can pick one team over another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoColts8818 Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 Why? For starters I am not sure we have money for him and two what would be the point? This team isn't going to the playoffs even if we win out the most we could win is six games while the Texans already have 7 wins so we are completely dead on that front not to mention he would have to lern the system and remember how bad Collins looked at the start of the season when he didn't know the system. So he's not the short term answer and he's not the long term answer either, he's clearly not better than Manning and I really doubt he is going to be better than one of the rookie QBs we can get in the draft if Manning can't play. I don't really see how he would be a good fit here of why we would even be a team he would be interested in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basketballsteve Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 I love Orton and think he is a good fit in Indy's system (and I would love next year to have him as the insurance policy for Peyton) but $ wise I don't see how it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTC Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 Seasons over anyway so it doesn't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bavanlan Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 Please re-read the part about signing him for this season AND next year..the Bears wont give him thatIt doesn't matter, he's not a free agent yet and he won't be this year.He's going to waivers because despite being a vet with 4+ years, everyone cut after the trade deadline goes to waivers. That means one of two things happens; 1) someone (or more than one) puts a claim in for him or 2) he becomes a free agent and can sign wherever.If #1 happens, they assume the remainder of his contract (absent guaranteed payments already made).So if the Bears want him, they will claim him. If we want him, we will also have to put in a claim. That means he will never get a choice as a free agent where to sign, so it doesn't matter who is offering what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 I just.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CR91 Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 why would we the season is lost. theres no reason to pick him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
number28 Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 kyle orton?who is your dealer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armageddonouttahere Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 What possible good could come from signing Kyle Orton?What possible benefit would there be for Orton in coming here? He'd be crazy to even give it a second thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaric Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 This could free us from the Andrew Luck decsion..and we can spend all our choices on 'D;'What? So you're saying we wouldn't need to look at QBs because we have Kyle Orton? That doesn't make any sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahagga73 Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 Orton is a starting QB. If he comes to Indy, it will be for back up money and a 4 game contract. Neither of which makes sense.http://bleacherrepor...go-bears-comingThe only reason to do it would be to make the Bear's pony up a draft pick or something,if they could even do that.If this wasn't the year of the college QB,and we are getting the 1 pick,then it would be a great idea for backup insurance . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LikeUntoGod Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 Wow, you guys are really into the Tanking the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSO Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 We already have enough money tied up in the QB spoton top of that Orton would have to learn the playbook and by the time he even grasps some of it the season will be over, it just makes no sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoGoColts Posted November 23, 2011 Author Share Posted November 23, 2011 The only reason to do it would be to make the Bear's pony up a draft pick or something,if they could even do that.If this wasn't the year of the college QB,and we are getting the 1 pick,then it would be a great idea for backup insurance .That would be pretty dishonorable, but funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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