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On 8/16/2019 at 8:42 PM, HectorRoberts said:

Good lord! How many chances is this wad going to get? He’s been reinstated more times than I can remember! It seems like he gets suspended indefinitely around week 8 and reinstated the next season every single year

 

It comes down to the player at least desiring to attempt to carry out a league mandated recovery, treatment, and sobriety maintenance plan for full reinstatement (it is currently conditional).

 

Note this in his reinstatement- "Subject to appropriate progress on clinical care and other arrangements, ..."

 

He wasn't given full access, and it's only until he gets his next failed urine test. It's a full on plan with steady testing. He's been around that block before and failed to cross the finish line.  It seems to me that if a player really shows initiative to overcome their issues, the NFL will give them (multiple) opportunities to do so.  But in the end, it will be that player himself that determines whether he succeeds and plays, or succumbs and fails.

 

The human side of me hopes he finally conquers his demons. The football fan inside me despises that if/when he does, he plays for the Patriots.

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18 hours ago, jameszeigler834 said:

No it is crap but no not surprised at all yet they kicked Aldon Smith and Justin Blackmon out of the league for pretty much the same thing.

i dont think Blackmon even tried to get reinstated, while Gordon did every time

 

i dont know anything about Smith 

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13 hours ago, jameszeigler834 said:

Smith I think did try they wouldn't let him back.

 

For cause.  Here's his timeline-

 

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/aldon-smith-timeline-trouble-arrested-suspensions-history-49ers-raiders-contract/rg7ss2w4qx5i1boyj36tycphx

 

to  be reinstated requires:

 

APPENDIX B

Procedures for Reinstatement Following Stage Three Banishment

 

Any Player who has been banished under Stage Three may apply formally in writing for reinstatement no sooner than 60 days before the one-year anniversary date of the letter so banishing him.

 

The application should include all pertinent information about the Player’s:

(a) Treatment;

(b) Abstinence from Substances of Abuse throughout the entire period of his banishment;

(c) Involvement with any Substances of Abuse related incidents; and

(d) Arrests and/or convictions for any criminal activity, including Substances of Abuse-related offenses.

 

 Set forth below are the procedures to be used when an application is received by the Commissioner.

1. Within 45 days of receipt of the application, the Player will be interviewed by the Medical Director and the Medical Advisor, after which a recommendation will be made to the Commissioner with regard to the Player’s request for reinstatement.

2. The Player will execute appropriate medical release forms that will enable the Commissioner’s staff and NFLPA Executive Director’s staff to review the Player’s substance abuse history, including but not limited to attendance at counseling sessions (individual, group and family); attendance at 12-step and other self-help group meetings; periodic progress reports; and all diagnostic findings and treatment recommendations.

3. The Player will submit to urine testing by an NFL representative at a frequency determined by the Medical Advisor.

4. The Player will agree in a meeting with the Commissioner or his representative(s) to comply with the conditions imposed by the Commissioner for his reinstatement to the status of an active Player.

5. All individuals involved in the process will take steps to enable the Commissioner to render a decision within 60 days of the receipt of the application.

 

the two (Smiths timeline and Appendix B) don't mesh.

 

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