Houston (+8) @ Denver (10-24-16)

[SkyBane]

1 minute ago, chad72 said:

 

To be honest, 107 before the last garbage time drive. Luck had 197 yards in a meaningful game and at least had the Broncos fans on the edge of their seats till the pick six happened. 

It's the yards per pass that's so brutal. On average, 3 Ossweiler passes would not even net you a first down tonight. That's like if instead of passing, they just handed the ball off to TRich every time they would pass. It's mind boggling how bad that ypp is.

[oldunclemark]

2 minutes ago, 19colt said:

Let's just hope Houston doesn't eventually show Brock the bench as Savage could give them a boost, you never know. 

Its a Savage world

[oldunclemark]

1 minute ago, SkyBane said:

It's the yards per pass that's so brutal. On average, 3 Ossweiler passes would not even net you a first down tonight. That's like if instead of passing, they just handed the ball off to TRich every time they would pass. It's mind boggling how bad that ypp is.

He was throwing the ball early......just so he wouldnt get sacked..

 

completions were almost a second thought

[2006Coltsbestever]

3 minutes ago, 19colt said:

Let's just hope Houston doesn't eventually show Brock the bench as Savage could give them a boost, you never know. 

I am starting to think Hoyer is better and I am not joking.

[oldunclemark]

You want to play Denver now...before Siemian gets more experience...and DeMarcus Ware gets back

[19colt]

1 minute ago, oldunclemark said:

He was throwing the ball early......just so he wouldnt get sacked..

 

completions were almost a second thought

And he avoided certain throws because he didn't want to throw an INT. He played like he wanted to get back on the plane with his ego intact and nothing else.

Just saw that this was the lowest YPA in history for over 40 attempts. 

[oldunclemark]

1 minute ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

I am starting to think Hoyer is better and I am not joking.

Hmmm......I cannot forget how bad that 30-0 Houston playoff loss to KC was..could have been 50-0

[SkyBane]

1 minute ago, oldunclemark said:

He was throwing the ball early......just so he wouldnt get sacked..

 

completions were almost a second thought

It's not even the completion percentage that's so awful. He averaged only 3 yards every time he dropped back to pass. That's one of the worst marks in NFL history. There is literally no point in even trying to pass at that point, because it's lower risk and higher reward just to hand it off.

[2006Coltsbestever]

1 minute ago, oldunclemark said:

Hmmm......I cannot forget how bad that 30-0 Houston playoff loss to KC was..could have been 50-0

Never said Hoyer was good but I will say this he was balling in Chicago before he got injured.

[oldunclemark]

2 minutes ago, SkyBane said:

It's not even the completion percentage that's so awful. He averaged only 3 yards every time he dropped back to pass. That's one of the worst marks in NFL history. There is literally no point in even trying to pass at that point, because it's lower risk and higher reward just to hand it off.

Is not the percentage..he gave himself one look and then he ashcanned the play.

Your WRs don't run routes when you do that.

 

I wonder if the team is demoralized with JJ Watt out..this was to be their year

[oldunclemark]

1 minute ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Never said Hoyer was good but I will say this he was balling in Chicago before he got injured.

was he? 

They were losing and he was completing a lot of short passes

[Happy2BeHere]

Hard to believe that our team the Colts loss to this Texans team last week 

[19colt]

4 minutes ago, SkyBane said:

It's not even the completion percentage that's so awful. He averaged only 3 yards every time he dropped back to pass. That's one of the worst marks in NFL history. There is literally no point in even trying to pass at that point, because it's lower risk and higher reward just to hand it off.

I saw on twitter that it was the worst ever for over 40 attempts. 

[2006Coltsbestever]

Just now, oldunclemark said:

was he? 

They were losing and he was completing a lot of short passes

He had 3 straight 300 Yard passing games so he was doing something right.

[SkyBane]

Just now, Happy2BeHere said:

Hard to believe that our team the Colts loss to this Texans team last week 

I think it's telling that the Colts defense made Ossweiler look competent. It truly highlights just how inept the Colts defense is.

[Synthetic]

9 minutes ago, Bluefire4 said:

@Bogie Yeah Brock is the real deal ain't he.

2 hours ago, Jules said:

 

 

(Can't delete these quotes for some reason) 

 

 

 

9 minutes ago, Bluefire4 said:

@Bogie Yeah Brock is the real deal ain't he.

 

 

Yep against your team. 

[oldunclemark]

I still see Oakland (5-2) at Denver (5-2) ......4:25.....on New Years Day..in the regular season finale....

[runthepost]

15 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

I don't know about that. Both those teams can score a lot of points. Chargers are starting to play Good too.

Houston has lost to 3 top 5 teams in the league. That's why I feel like they will pick up the pace.

[oldunclemark]

1 minute ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

He had 3 straight 300 Yard passing games so he was doing something right.

for fantasy players..

..but for wins?  He wasnt getting it done...

[Synthetic]

Just now, runthepost said:

Houston has lost to 3 top 5 teams in the league. That's why I feel like they will pick up the pace.

 

 

All of Houston's losses have came to good playoff caliber teams with top defenses. They will be fine. 

 

 

[2006Coltsbestever]

1 minute ago, Bogie said:

 

(Can't delete these quotes for some reason) 

 

 

 

 

 

Yep against your team. 

Lets see how the game goes in Indy and you wont ever admit it but last week was a fluke. Lamar Miller was the MVP of that game clearly. Brock was terrible for 3 QTRs

[Bluefire4]

1 minute ago, Bogie said:

 

(Can't delete these quotes for some reason) 

 

 

 

 

 

Yep against your team. 

You know why that was the case if you watched the game. He started the same way against us that he looked today but we had injuries so he was able to get those short completions and let his receivers do the work on a bad defense. 

 

You are the one that said he was the real deal and would outperform Siemian and make Denver regret their decision that was just ridiculous to say against this dominant defense.

[19colt]

1 minute ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Lets see how the game goes in Indy and you wont ever admit it but last week was a fluke. Lamar Miller was the MVP of that game clearly. Brock was terrible for 3 QTRs

Brock had an almost identical game vs NE last year for Denver as he did vs Indy. Rubbish until 5 minutes left then somehow win the game. Good company to be in. 

[oldunclemark]

2 minutes ago, Bogie said:

 

 

All of Houston's losses have came to good playoff caliber teams with top defenses. They will be fine. 

 

 

I would have to think so.....

They have far more offensive talent than they have shown...

,,and they get to play the Titans and Jax, too

[runthepost]

2 minutes ago, Bogie said:

 

 

All of Houston's losses have came to good playoff caliber teams with top defenses. They will be fine. 

 

 

And all the games were on the road as well

[Synthetic]

Just now, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Lets see how the game goes in Indy and you wont ever admit it but last week was a fluke. Lamar Miller was the MVP of that game clearly. Brock was terrible for 3 QTRs

 

 

I won't ever admit it? That's ironic coming from you. 

 

Dude, your team has barely beaten the Chargers, Bears, and Titans...Colts aren't world beaters by any means. 

 

Texans are due to get a sweep over the Colts. Last year they beat them in Indy, I wouldn't be shocked if it happens again. 

 

And yes, he played bad for 3 quarters but still won the game. That's all that counts. Getting that win, even in ugly situations. Brock was clutch against the Colts, and I don't think you'll ever admit that. 

 

 

[Bluefire4]

5 minutes ago, SkyBane said:

I think it's telling that the Colts defense made Ossweiler look competent. It truly highlights just how inept the Colts defense is.

Rashaan Melvin was starting on the outside as we had Robinson out and Butler went out mid game and that had something to do with it but yes it shows how bad our defense is. Brock was throwing short against us as well and we just had missed tackles in the fourth quarter.

[Synthetic]

1 minute ago, Bluefire4 said:

You know why that was the case if you watched the game. He started the same way against us that he looked today but we had injuries so he was able to get those short completions and let his receivers do the work on a bad defense. 

 

You are the one that said he was the real deal and would outperform Siemian and make Denver regret their decision that was just ridiculous to say against this dominant defense.

 

And, your point? I don't get paid for sports opinions. I'm wrong just as much as you are. This is the internet pal, no one has arcane knowledge about everything on here. 

 

You lost to Brock, and I know you guys are sore losers and will never admit it, but he beat you in the clutch. Move on. 

 

If that was Andrew Luck having some come back with an ugly 3 quarters, this board would be going off how he's the next best QB to play the game. But when it's a Texans QB, oh, Colts defense is just bad...Oh, he sucks...Oh, it was a fluke. 

 

 

 

[Jules]

2 minutes ago, runthepost said:

And all the games were on the road as well

 

They have had a tough schedule I do admit. 

 

I still won't say Houston is "done" since if you look at who they lost to this year it was not easy at all. 

 

Houston isn't done until they start losing to average to bad teams......

[SkyBane]

2 minutes ago, oldunclemark said:

I would have to think so.....

They have far more offensive talent than they have shown...

,,and they get to play the Titans and Jax, too

This isn't a valid narrative when through 7 games, they have put up some of the worst numbers in the NFL, and are arguably the worst offense in football. The Texans offense is simply inept, and any wins they get down the road will be in spite of it.

[2006Coltsbestever]

1 minute ago, Bogie said:

 

 

I won't ever admit it? That's ironic coming from you. 

 

Dude, your team has barely beaten the Chargers, Bears, and Titans...Colts aren't world beaters by any means. 

 

Texans are due to get a sweep over the Colts. Last year they beat them in Indy, I wouldn't be shocked if it happens again. 

 

And yes, he played bad for 3 quarters but still won the game. That's all that counts. Getting that win, even in ugly situations. Brock was clutch against the Colts, and I don't think you'll ever admit that. 

 

 

I seriously doubt they beat us in Indy, I would bet on it even. That isn't happening 2 years in a row. You can hope it happens but Andrew isn't losing to Brock and a Houston team without Watt at home.

[Jules]

Just now, Bogie said:

 

And, your point? I don't get paid for sports opinions. I'm wrong just as much as you are. This is the internet pal, no one has arcane knowledge about everything on here. 

 

You lost to Brock, and I know you guys are sore losers and will never admit it, but he beat you in the clutch. Move on. 

 

If that was Andrew Luck having some come back with an ugly 3 quarters, this board would be going off how he's the next best QB to play the game. But when it's a Texans QB, oh, Colts defense is just bad...Oh, he sucks...Oh, it was a fluke. 

 

 

 

Luck has had several games like Brock had vs. the Colts.

 

Lets just move on. NBA starts tomorrow!!!!!!!!

[2006Coltsbestever]

4 minutes ago, Jules said:

 

They have had a tough schedule I do admit. 

 

I still won't say Houston is "done" since if you look at who they lost to this year it was not easy at all. 

 

Houston isn't done until they start losing to average to bad teams......

It's coming, I can see the Lions beating them.

[oldunclemark]

 

Brocks knowledge of his new teammates is behind other defenses knowledge of him

[Jules]

9 minutes ago, oldunclemark said:

I still see Oakland (5-2) at Denver (5-2) ......4:25.....on New Years Day..in the regular season finale....

 

I still hope it's KC who wins the West. 

 

But, this is going to be very very tough in this division with 3 teams who might be able to make the playoffs.

[oldunclemark]

2 minutes ago, SkyBane said:

This isn't a valid narrative when through 7 games, they have put up some of the worst numbers in the NFL, and are arguably the worst offense in football. The Texans offense is simply inept, and any wins they get down the road will be in spite of it.

inept doesn't mean not talented......7 games is short sample size when folks are new, right?

[Jules]

Just now, 2006Coltsbestever said:

It's coming, I can the Lions beating them.

 

I don't think the Lions are that bad but I would not bet on it either.........

 

Since the Lions are pretty good on offense. They are not a playoff team though so correct there.

[oldunclemark]

1 minute ago, Jules said:

 

I still hope it's KC who wins the West. 

 

.

why?

[oldunclemark]

we always make the mistake of think thinking that they team we see tonight is the finished product..

....the team we'll see in 3 or 6 or 9 weeks...

 

it never is

[SkyBane]

1 minute ago, oldunclemark said:

inept doesn't mean not talented......7 games is short sample size when folks are new, right?

No it's not. By 7 weeks in the NFL, you are what you are, and the Texans are a bad offensive football team. Barring some miraculous turnaround, Houston will be entirely reliant on their defense to carry them the rest of the way this year, and then it will be time to reevaluate the offense (and likely fire at least a coordinator or two).