Defjamz Colts Mock 4.0

[Defjamz26]

Sticking true to my claim to do 1 draft a week. My last one was probably my favorite and what I'll hope for when Draft day comes, but I wanted to explore some different options in this one and switch it up a bit.

 

Round 1-Landon Collins, SS Alabama

 

Even if he has to trade up a bit, I could see Grigson drafting a guy he thinks can be a tone setter for the defense. He'd love to land a blue-chip player from a top school. We had Richardson, and have Chapman who are both from Alabama so he clearly thinks highly of the talent from that school.

 

Round 2- Benardrick McKinney, ILB Mississippi State

 

Quite frankly I've heard "There's no way *insert player here* falls to our pick in the 2nd" too many times to believe this pick isn't possible. Sure he has all the measurables, but McKinney isn't the best ILB prospect now, plus there are always multiple draft day fallers. I'm not buying McKinney as a top 50 pick. But he has enough potential for the Colts to take him round 2. He needs to sit and develop.

 

*swap this pick with Perryman if you prefer

 

Round 3-Mario Edwards Jr., DE FSU

 

I know this will require some explanation. In another world, Edwards is a first round pick. But in reality he didn't live up to the hype placed on him. Here is a guy who played at 300+ pounds but slimmed down and looked dominant. NFL.com has him as a 3rd-4th round pick and that's why I have him here. Good value.

 

Round 4- David Cobb, RB Minnesota

 

A lot of options at RB this year, and I like Cobb as one of those options. He's another runner who fits the mold of what the Colts want to be when it comes to having a physical running game. With how deep the RB class is though, it's hard to know who will be there in the 4th. This pick could also be Jeremy Langford, David Johnson, Mike Davis,etc...

 

Round 5-Anthony Harris, FS Virginia

 

NFL.com has him with a 6th round grade. I think he's a little better than that. The big knock on him is his thin build. His frame is likely already maxed out, so he can't add much weight. I know this is said a lot, but he plays bigger than his size. Doesn't have the ball skills of Holliman, but is a willing tackler.

 

Round 6-Cam Thomas, CB W.Kentucky

 

I've had this same pick in almost all of my mocks and I can't seem to shake it. I just think Thomas is a really underrated player who the Colts will snatch up in later rounds. Look at this tape, you can see where he needs work but he's very instinctive: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZvvnRNGFRc

 

Round 6- BA OT

 

Round 7- Davaris Daniel, WR Notre Dame

 

Possible developmental guy who will be a camp body. Eventual PS player though

 

Round 7- BPA

 

 

Tried a different approach here. I looked at it from the perspective of those (including Pags and Grigson) who said DL wasn't a huge need. So I only took one player, and waited until round 3. I also looked back at the 2014 draft results and realized too many people don't think players will fall. But the amount of prospects that people here liked, and fell a lot farther than they thought is shocking. That's why I feel comfortable with most of these picks.

[RealityIsLuck]

Mario Edwards is honestly my least favorite prospect in this draft. No production, not a good football player. Insane athlete, waay overrated. Getting some Rd 1 hype too which I never understood.

Also, I think Harris is a third round kid, I'd be surprised if he was there in the 5th. Nice work though, it's an alright mock.

[krunk]

I still am not understanding why hardly anyone is putting pass rushers in any of these mock drafts?

[Dustin]

Not sure I would even want McKinney in the 2nd tbh

[throwing BBZ]

Grigs has his safeties.
Hope not on McKinney.
We will get a vet D-Lineman for the 53 man.
Edwards doesn`t fit. JMO of course.

[Track Guy]

First 3 picks would be brutal for me.

[Defjamz26]

Not sure I would even want McKinney in the 2nd tbh

Yeah I understand. I don't get the people saying he's a high 2nd round pick. I think Kendricks, Anthony, Dawson, and Perryman are all better than him. He easily has the least impressive film of all of them. Could be a 3rd rounder tbh, but at 61 he may be good value for the Colts. He would really need to develop.

 

 

Grigs has his safeties.

Hope not on McKinney.

We will get a vet D-Lineman for the 53 man.

Edwards doesn`t fit. JMO of course.

Appreciate the feedback. Like I said, this is my 4th mock and I just wanted to switch things up and try a totally different approach so it isn't just my posting the same mocks over and over. Personally I like my last mock better.

 

1. I think Collins would be a safety for the future, who like Bucannon last year, would see some playing time early on but won't be a full time starter. Also Lowery is just another Brown, and he's also 29.

 

2. NFL.com has Edwards as a 4-3 DT or 3-4 end. I think he's definitely a scheme fit. Especially since we do some 4-3 stuff occasionally. Lot of issues with him, but most can be fixed I believe. He doesn't have anything to offer in terms of pass rush, so he's probably better defending the run.

[Bluefire4]

I still am not understanding why hardly anyone is putting pass rushers in any of these mock drafts?

The position is pretty stocked at the moment. Even if Mathis' injury is worst case scenario we have Cole, Werner, Walden, and Newsome. I think the only way we get a pass rusher is if it's a late pick that could make the practice squad without getting taken off by another team, or if we cut Walden for some reason before or after the draft.

[krunk]

The position is pretty stocked at the moment. Even if Mathis' injury is worst case scenario we have Cole, Werner, Walden, and Newsome. I think the only way we get a pass rusher is if it's a late pick that could make the practice squad without getting taken off by another team, or if we cut Walden for some reason before or after the draft.

 

Those are not pass rushers outside of Mathis and Cole and they are old/injured. That leaves us with Newsome, we'll need to draft at least 1 more at the minimum to me.  And I think it should be higher than a UDFA.

[riftastic28]

Would be awesome if we got this.. Sorry to the other fellow colts fans fir not wanting the best saftey an ILB in the draft .. Smh

[SDakColts]

Sticking true to my claim to do 1 draft a week. My last one was probably my favorite and what I'll hope for when Draft day comes, but I wanted to explore some different options in this one and switch it up a bit.

 

Round 1-Landon Collins, SS Alabama

 

Even if he has to trade up a bit, I could see Grigson drafting a guy he thinks can be a tone setter for the defense. He'd love to land a blue-chip player from a top school. We had Richardson, and have Chapman who are both from Alabama so he clearly thinks highly of the talent from that school.

 

Round 2- Benardrick McKinney, ILB Mississippi State

 

Quite frankly I've heard "There's no way *insert player here* falls to our pick in the 2nd" too many times to believe this pick isn't possible. Sure he has all the measurables, but McKinney isn't the best ILB prospect now, plus there are always multiple draft day fallers. I'm not buying McKinney as a top 50 pick. But he has enough potential for the Colts to take him round 2. He needs to sit and develop.

 

*swap this pick with Perryman if you prefer

 

Round 3-Mario Edwards Jr., DE FSU

 

I know this will require some explanation. In another world, Edwards is a first round pick. But in reality he didn't live up to the hype placed on him. Here is a guy who played at 300+ pounds but slimmed down and looked dominant. NFL.com has him as a 3rd-4th round pick and that's why I have him here. Good value.

 

Round 4- David Cobb, RB Minnesota

 

A lot of options at RB this year, and I like Cobb as one of those options. He's another runner who fits the mold of what the Colts want to be when it comes to having a physical running game. With how deep the RB class is though, it's hard to know who will be there in the 4th. This pick could also be Jeremy Langford, David Johnson, Mike Davis,etc...

 

Round 5-Anthony Harris, FS Virginia

 

NFL.com has him with a 6th round grade. I think he's a little better than that. The big knock on him is his thin build. His frame is likely already maxed out, so he can't add much weight. I know this is said a lot, but he plays bigger than his size. Doesn't have the ball skills of Holliman, but is a willing tackler.

 

Round 6-Cam Thomas, CB W.Kentucky

 

I've had this same pick in almost all of my mocks and I can't seem to shake it. I just think Thomas is a really underrated player who the Colts will snatch up in later rounds. Look at this tape, you can see where he needs work but he's very instinctive: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZvvnRNGFRc

 

Round 6- BA OT

 

Round 7- Davaris Daniel, WR Notre Dame

 

Possible developmental guy who will be a camp body. Eventual PS player though

 

Round 7- BPA

 

 

Tried a different approach here. I looked at it from the perspective of those (including Pags and Grigson) who said DL wasn't a huge need. So I only took one player, and waited until round 3. I also looked back at the 2014 draft results and realized too many people don't think players will fall. But the amount of prospects that people here liked, and fell a lot farther than they thought is shocking. That's why I feel comfortable with most of these picks.

 

I understand that you was trying to switch things up, and think outside the box.  I for one would be very disappointed with this draft though tbh. I am only a fan of the Cobb and Harris picks in this mock. I really liked your last mock though.

[Clem-Dog]

Collins is Mayock's #2 rated safety. I'm good with him.

I'm also good with McKinney in the 2nd. We need a heavy hitter at ILB and he is one of the heavier hitters at his position.

I don't like your 3rd rounder as much. Fit Anderson or another DL prospect in there and the whole mock looks good to me.

[Bluefire4]

Those are not pass rushers outside of Mathis and Cole and they are old/injured. That leaves us with Newsome, we'll need to draft at least 1 more at the minimum to me. And I think it should be higher than a UDFA.

Just because you don't think they are good doesn't mean they won't make the roster and there won't be room for anybody else if they do.

[krunk]

Just because you don't think they are good doesn't mean they won't make the roster and there won't be room for anybody else if they do.

 

I didn't say they won't make the roster.  I said Walden and Werner are not pure pass rushers and it's already been proven. We didn't have any pass rush last year.  Yes we will have Cole and Mathis but we don't even know if Mathis will be the same  and Cole is up in age himself.  Newsome is pretty good, and I'm saying we need at least one more pass rusher.  Grigson has always stated you can never have enough.  We need at least one more young pass rusher to go along with Newsome, maybe that may be Adongo, but he hasn't even proven he can stay healthy. 

[krunk]

Just because you don't think they are good doesn't mean they won't make the roster and there won't be room for anybody else if they do.

 

Both of them will make the roster this year.  That doesn't mean there wouldn't be anymore room, that's just not true.

[Dark Superman]

I like Randall at safety..

Not really high on Collins.

[Defjamz26]

I like Randall at safety..

Not really high on Collins.

Collins is better than Landry by miles and probably better than Mark Barron. He's more athletic than he was coming out.

I'm not 100% sold on him but I think the staff would pick him in a flash. As long as we could draft another safety to play FS though, I'd be fine.

[Bluefire4]

Both of them will make the roster this year.  That doesn't mean there wouldn't be anymore room, that's just not true.

We won't hold more than 5 OLB's at any time. When Mathis comes back.. which could be the first game of the season because the worst case scenario is November and he said he would be ready for training camp, somebody would have to go.

[funktacious2]

Quite frankly I've heard "There's no way *insert player here* falls to our pick in the 2nd" too many times to believe this pick isn't possible.

Amen, . Happens every year, people always inflate players' draft stock by forgetting that if someone goes higher in the draft then someone else has to go lower. And let's not forget that every year there are always a few players per round that teams take that pundits were thinking would go a round later. Just an example: Does anyone remember in 2012 (I think) when the 49ers took A.J. Jenkins (WR) in the first round when he was projected to go in the 3rd? Those kinds kinds of picks do happen and they add up, teams can't count on the guy they wanted falling to them, but they can count on someone being there they didn't expect.

[Defjamz26]

Amen, . Happens every year, people always inflate players' draft stock by forgetting that if someone goes higher in the draft then someone else has to go lower. And let's not forget that every year there are always a few players per round that teams take that pundits were thinking would go a round later. Just an example: Does anyone remember in 2012 (I think) when the 49ers took A.J. Jenkins (WR) in the first round when he was projected to go in the 3rd? Those kinds kinds of picks do happen and they add up, teams can't count on the guy they wanted falling to them, but they can count on someone being there they didn't expect.

Juwuan James last year. Probably had a 3rd round grade, ended up going first round to the Dolphins. Or if you want an opposite example, last year you had Bashauad Breeland and Keith McGill with 2nd round grades, and I believe they both went in the 4th round.

 

It also has to do with the fact that people don't realize prospects aren't as good as they are made out to be. McKinney is a perfect example. While he certainly has a lot of potential because of his size, he has some of the least impressive tape of the ILB class, and can't cover. That's not a top 50 player, but certainly a top 100.

[krunk]

We won't hold more than 5 OLB's at any time. When Mathis comes back.. which could be the first game of the season because the worst case scenario is November and he said he would be ready for training camp, somebody would have to go.

 

We carry 6 linebackers not 5.  First, Second and Third string on both sides

[Bluefire4]

We carry 6 linebackers not 5. First, Second and Third string on both sides

No we don't. We don't have enough roster space for that. You don't get third stringers for every position especially for both sides. Last year we had Walden, Werner, Newsome, and Studebaker.

[krunk]

No we don't. We don't have enough roster space for that. You don't get third stringers for every position especially for both sides. Last year we had Walden, Werner, Newsome, and Studebaker.

 

Check any available depth chart online

[Bluefire4]

Check any available depth chart online

What? How am I suppose to do that? Everyone has over 53 players right now but when the 53 man roster is made, there will not be 6 OLB's.

[Dark Superman]

What? How am I suppose to do that? Everyone has over 53 players right now but when the 53 man roster is made, there will not be 6 OLB's.

You're right. Right now we have Mathis, Walden, Cole, Newsome and Werner. Unless we draft a OLB high, those will be the projected five heading into the season barring injury.

[Defjamz26]

I still am not understanding why hardly anyone is putting pass rushers in any of these mock drafts?

If we get any pass rushers, it would need to be from the interior. I don't think we have roster space for another OLB unless we stash a guy on the PS or use them for ST. Currently we have

-Mathis

-Cole

-Walden

-Werner

-Newsome

Those guys will all make the 53. But then you have guys like Studebaker and Cam Johnson if they're still around.

Unless Grigson sees Werner as a bust(which I doubt) we won't draft an OLB high. An interior pass rusher is likely though. Carl Davis, Armstead,etc..

[DougDew]

I still am not understanding why hardly anyone is putting pass rushers in any of these mock drafts?

Because we've got Cole and Newsome and Mathis on one side and Walden and Werner at the other. An edge pass rusher would likely be a rotational guy at this point, which means a later round pick, IMO.

I'd prefer Henry Anderson instead of Mario Williams in the OP mock.

[DougDew]

1- Not bad..but I think Grigs might see too much of Landry in Collins, and Choose Randall over him.

2- I wouldn't be angry, but if Anthony is still there I'd prefer him.

3 - Don't like this pick. I'd prefer a DT/E with some interior pass rushing ability like Henry Anderson here...he also has the length to consistently rotate with Langford regardless of the situation...he's not just a PR specialist.

4- Your RB comment and player choices is spot on...I'd have David Johnson as my first choice however.

It gets to be a real crap-shoot after round 4. I like players like Daryl Williams OG OKL, and several of the CBs that have later round grades here.