BProland85 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Who is the one player you think fits best on the Colts in terms of need and style of play? For me it's OT/G La'el Collins. He could play RG year 1, then kick out to RT once we hopefully cut Cherilus after the 2015 season. Collins is a power blocker and we run the power run formation. I think there is a chance he falls to the 20s, in which case I would love the Colts to pounce on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealityIsLuck Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I would love him, I think we'd most likely have to trade up a bit for him (5-10 picks) but I think it would be fully worth it to make the next step to solidify the OL. We could send a 3rd this year (or next) and have a draft something like this:1. La'el Collins2. DE/S4. ^Whichever not taken above. My dream with that outline:1. La'el Collins2. Preston Smith4. Kurt Drummond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BProland85 Posted April 16, 2015 Author Share Posted April 16, 2015 I would love him, I think we'd most likely have to trade up a bit for him (5-10 picks) but I think it would be fully worth it to solidify the OL.I think the Colts OL would be very good with the addition of Collins. We would then have LT, RT, LG, and C locked in for the future with good young players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HtownColt Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Laken Tomlinson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Track Guy Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I think Henry Anderson, Jay Ajayi, Jordan Phillips, T.J. Clemmings, and Rob Havenstein are some guys that stylistically fit how we use our players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealityIsLuck Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 But for me the best fits for the Colts would be: Marcus Peters, La'el Collins, Eli Harold, Henry Anderson, and Mike Davis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BProland85 Posted April 16, 2015 Author Share Posted April 16, 2015 I would love this draft after moving up about 5-10 spots to get OT Collins... 1- OT La'el Collins2- FS Damarious Randell3- RB Ameer Abdullah or Duke Johnson4- DE Henry Anderson or Marcus Hardison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HtownColt Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I would love this draft after moving up about 5-10 spots to get OT Collins...1- OT La'el Collins2- FS Damarious Randell3- RB Ameer Abdullah or Duke Johnson4- DE Henry Anderson or Marcus HardisonHow are you moving up 5-10 spots and keeping all your picks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealityIsLuck Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Laken TomlinsonLaken too, he'd be a tremendous fit at RG in the man blocking scheme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Marcus Peters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HtownColt Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Laken too, he'd be a tremendous fit at RG in the man blocking scheme.And on top of that, he hasn't allowed a sack in the past two years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BProland85 Posted April 16, 2015 Author Share Posted April 16, 2015 How are you moving up 5-10 spots and keeping all your picks?Trading away a 2016 3rd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewColtsFan Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I would love this draft after moving up about 5-10 spots to get OT Collins... 1- OT La'el Collins2- FS Damarious Randell3- RB Ameer Abdullah or Duke Johnson4- DE Henry Anderson or Marcus Hardison I love your draft, but a few thought.... I don't think eitehr Abdullah or Duke Johnson will be around at pick 93. And I don't think either Anderson or Hardison will be around at pick 128. And from what I've read, Hardison is more a 4-3 DT than a 3-4 DE. Different skill set. But I like the way you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HtownColt Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Trading away a 2016 3rdThat's not going to get you up there.A third rounder this year might, but a next years 3rd carries a 4th round value in the current draft. Or something like that I think. And if history serves correct, going off last years draft you would need this years 3rd to move up to like 22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loudnproudcolt Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 SoOL-Collins, TJ Clemmons or Cameron Erving. I prefer Lael or Erving. Lael due to power blocking and Erving due to interchangability. If we don't get one of those, then BPA, Kendricks or best CB available. No safety is worth a first round pick, imho. Second depends on first. If we don't get any OL, then go with Laken Tomlinson.If we do get an OL, then go with Randall, who we would have to probably trade up to get or stay put and I would behappy with Quentin Rollins-Huge upside, or Paul Dawson. Third round, Cedric Ogbuehi, OT, Daryll OT, Henry Anderson DT, or Gabe Wright DT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoshinator Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 La'el Collins and Eric Kendricks are the best fits for us, IMO. Collins is the perfect RT/RG that can make our O-Line very formidable and Eric Kendricks is an excellent run stopping ILB that is also good in coverage. Both fit what we need. If we were going with someone outside the first round, I'd say Donovan Smith the OT. He is the best Anchor in the draft and can more than hold his own. If we got Kendricks in the 1st and Donovan Smith in the 3rd as two of our picks, we'd be in great shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Several players. Just a question if who is available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Ironically, Bud Dupree is a great fit. He'd be a really good Sam for us, and would probably be a plus pass rusher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueShoe Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Flowers and Shaq Thompson are perfect fits. Both could be year one standouts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archer Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Jalen Collins, CB, LSU. While I'd prefer Kevin Johnson of Wake Forest because his man coverage skills are another level above, Collins' size and physicality are more suited to the press coverage (which we like to play). I kind of have the opposite impression about La'el Collins as many of you, though he kind of confuses me as a prospect. Everyone calls him a power-blocker, but he's less than 310 lbs and only put up 21 bp reps. And, while Pep talked about power running two years ago, we seem to be closer to zone blocking scheme (though we're not that either). He's probably a good enough athlete and mean enough of a run blocker to be scheme versatile, I don't know where he'd fit best in the pros... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Mad Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Cam Erving gives us Oline upgrade and he can paly C, RG and RT. Would be an instant starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defjamz26 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Derron Smith. Can cover, but isn't afraid when asked to play in the box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelCityColt Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Ironically, Bud Dupree is a great fit. He'd be a really good Sam for us, and would probably be a plus pass rusher.Not wanting to sound dumb or anything but why is it ironic? I think I've missed the joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horse Shoe Heaven Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I would love him, I think we'd most likely have to trade up a bit for him (5-10 picks) but I think it would be fully worth it to make the next step to solidify the OL. We could send a 3rd this year (or next) and have a draft something like this:1. La'el Collins2. DE/S4. ^Whichever not taken above. My dream with that outline:1. La'el Collins2. Preston Smith4. Kurt DrummondI like Drummond hope we get him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Not wanting to sound dumb or anything but why is it ironic? I think I've missed the joke I'm not a big fan of Dupree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Jalen Collins, CB, LSU. While I'd prefer Kevin Johnson of Wake Forest because his man coverage skills are another level above, Collins' size and physicality are more suited to the press coverage (which we like to play). I kind of have the opposite impression about La'el Collins as many of you, though he kind of confuses me as a prospect. Everyone calls him a power-blocker, but he's less than 310 lbs and only put up 21 bp reps. And, while Pep talked about power running two years ago, we seem to be closer to zone blocking scheme (though we're not that either). He's probably a good enough athlete and mean enough of a run blocker to be scheme versatile, I don't know where he'd fit best in the pros... https://vine.co/v/hpm6dQH1mw6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crackychan Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Clayton geathers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelCityColt Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I'm not a big fan of Dupree.Gotcha, I agree kinda, I don't see on the tape I've seen why he's projected so high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 And on top of that, he hasn't allowed a sack in the past two years Duke plays in a ridiculous quick hit offense, so his numbers are going to be inflated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Gotcha, I agree kinda, I don't see on the tape I've seen why he's projected so high. He's big, strong and athletic. One of the best measurable profiles ever. And he's squeaky clean (as far as I know). My problem is that he doesn't fly around the field, he doesn't play with reckless abandon, doesn't bring any pain to the play... I like my linebackers to run around like they're late for a train, and that's not Dupree. It's been said that the gameplans called on him to be more conservative at the line, maybe to counter delays and read option, but even in pursuit or when engaged, he doesn't have that feisty disposition that I'd like to see from a playmaking OLB/DE. There are certain players that are always around the ball, always getting involved, most of them less talented than Dupree. If he played like that, I'd be all about him. I feel the same way about Arik Armstead. No urgency to his game, either. That said, there are times when Dupree flashes his true ability and makes incredible plays. And he has a versatility that most OLBs in this draft don't. I think he's probably a top 20 pick, and I'm fine with that. But his skill-set would be a really good fit in our defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backshoulderfade Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Marcus PetersIt would be like having to Vontaes in the field. Now if he could live up to that billing we wouldn't allow many passing yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 He's big, strong and athletic. One of the best measurable profiles ever. And he's squeaky clean (as far as I know). My problem is that he doesn't fly around the field, he doesn't play with reckless abandon, doesn't bring any pain to the play... I like my linebackers to run around like they're late for a train, and that's not Dupree. It's been said that the gameplans called on him to be more conservative at the line, maybe to counter delays and read option, but even in pursuit or when engaged, he doesn't have that feisty disposition that I'd like to see from a playmaking OLB/DE. There are certain players that are always around the ball, always getting involved, most of them less talented than Dupree. If he played like that, I'd be all about him. I feel the same way about Arik Armstead. No urgency to his game, either. That said, there are times when Dupree flashes his true ability and makes incredible plays. And he has a versatility that most OLBs in this draft don't. I think he's probably a top 20 pick, and I'm fine with that. But his skill-set would be a really good fit in our defense. I feel Armstead would be so much better if he was limited by Oregon's scheme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I feel Armstead would be so much better if he was limited by Oregon's scheme. How so? I was watching Game Changers on NFL Network the other day, and they were running bag drills. Armstead, Shelton, Williams and Gregory. Armstead had a very lackadaisical way about him, in comparison with the others, not really finishing his reps, etc. It's probably just my already established opinion of him, but his temperament doesn't impress me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 How so? I was watching Game Changers on NFL Network the other day, and they were running bag drills. Armstead, Shelton, Williams and Gregory. Armstead had a very lackadaisical way about him, in comparison with the others, not really finishing his reps, etc. It's probably just my already established opinion of him, but his temperament doesn't impress me. Oregon often just rushed three players. Armstead was the most disruptive player on the dline and received the most attention. Didn't play in an attacking defense. He's got some problems, but he didn't really play in a defense that put him in positon to do anything noteworthy. Sort of like how Bud Dupree was so mis-used by Kentucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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