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Who would you draft if you had the #1 pick?

I have five names at the top of my head

Alshon Jeffrey - 6'4, 229 lbs, WR, South Carolina

- Wayne is getting older and might not even return in Indianapolis next season. All we have left then is Garcon and Collie. Peyton needs a tall, fast, deep threat such as Alson Jeffrey.

Trent Richardson - 5'11, 224 lbs, RB, Alabama

- Addai is not the same anymore as he used to be. He is hitting the injury bug. Trent Richardson reminds me of a Adrian Peterson and would be our future running back that we need.

Justin Blackmon - 6'1, 215 lbs, WR, Oklahoma State

-Same reason as Alshon Jeffrey

Quinton Coples, 6'6, 285 lbs, DE, North Carolina

- There is a huge possibility that Mathis wont return to Indianapolis, Coples would be a good fit here.

Matt Kalil, 6'6, 295 lbs, OT, USC

- Kalil is the best OL prospect in the draft and would definitely be a starting LT for 10+ years. If we drafted Kalil, Castonzo would move to RT, Ijalana to RG, Diem to LG, and Saturday to center, that right there is an amazing OL which will improve our running game no doubt.

If I was the GM, I would draft either Matt Kalil or Alshon Jeffrey, both would be very productive in this Colts offense.

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Who would you draft if you had the #1 pick?

I have five names at the top of my head

Alshon Jeffrey - 6'4, 229 lbs, WR, South Carolina

- Wayne is getting older and might not even return in Indianapolis next season. All we have left then is Garcon and Collie. Peyton needs a tall, fast, deep threat such as Alson Jeffrey.

Trent Richardson - 5'11, 224 lbs, RB, Alabama

- Addai is not the same anymore as he used to be. He is hitting the injury bug. Trent Richardson reminds me of a Adrian Peterson and would be our future running back that we need.

Justin Blackmon - 6'1, 215 lbs, WR, Oklahoma State

-Same reason as Alshon Jeffrey

Quinton Coples, 6'6, 285 lbs, DE, North Carolina

- There is a huge possibility that Mathis wont return to Indianapolis, Coples would be a good fit here.

Matt Kalil, 6'6, 295 lbs, OT, USC

- Kalil is the best OL prospect in the draft and would definitely be a starting LT for 10+ years. If we drafted Kalil, Castonzo would move to RT, Ijalana to RG, Diem to LG, and Saturday to center, that right there is an amazing OL which will improve our running game no doubt.

If I was the GM, I would draft either Matt Kalil or Alshon Jeffrey, both would be very productive in this Colts offense.

Got to trade that No.1 for two No.1s or a 1, 2 and 3..

What we need,...(DBs, DTs) we can get in the early first round..

we cant draft offense....we have the NFL's worst defense

the LSU corner Morris Claiborne is a must if we can get him...

I might even draft two corners in the first round...Dre Kirkpatrick can be imposing...

Imagine Indy with single-coverage specialists corners...

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If Luck isn't avaiable I doubt many will be interested in trading up for the overall no.1 pick as there is no other player on the board that would warrent giving up picks for. So for that reason I think the Colts would look to who the best overall player on the board is. I am not sure who that is, but it will be interesting to see what happens.

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Who would you draft if you had the #1 pick?

I have five names at the top of my head

Alshon Jeffrey - 6'4, 229 lbs, WR, South Carolina

- Wayne is getting older and might not even return in Indianapolis next season. All we have left then is Garcon and Collie. Peyton needs a tall, fast, deep threat such as Alson Jeffrey.

Trent Richardson - 5'11, 224 lbs, RB, Alabama

- Addai is not the same anymore as he used to be. He is hitting the injury bug. Trent Richardson reminds me of a Adrian Peterson and would be our future running back that we need.

Justin Blackmon - 6'1, 215 lbs, WR, Oklahoma State

-Same reason as Alshon Jeffrey

Quinton Coples, 6'6, 285 lbs, DE, North Carolina

- There is a huge possibility that Mathis wont return to Indianapolis, Coples would be a good fit here.

Matt Kalil, 6'6, 295 lbs, OT, USC

- Kalil is the best OL prospect in the draft and would definitely be a starting LT for 10+ years. If we drafted Kalil, Castonzo would move to RT, Ijalana to RG, Diem to LG, and Saturday to center, that right there is an amazing OL which will improve our running game no doubt.

If I was the GM, I would draft either Matt Kalil or Alshon Jeffrey, both would be very productive in this Colts offense.

Under that scenario.....there is a chance Arizona might want to jump up and draft Matt Kalil because Levi Brown is atrocious at LT for them. Having signed Kolb for millions...the Cards HAVE to address LT. And if there are 1-2 other teams hungry for a LT in the Top 10 along with the Cardinals... we might be able to pit them against each other and engineer a trade-down.

If we have no trade down offers and absolutely HAD to take a player.... I would take Kalil despite knowing we already have Castonzo and Ijalana.... because I don't believe Blackmon or Jeffery are anywhere near the quality of AJ Green or Julio Jones, last year's premier WRs. I don't see Coples as a justifiable value at #1.... and a RB at #1 is out of the question.

Whatever happens in a situation where Luck stays at Stanford.... which I highly doubt will happen.... we can't just reach for a perceived need.

I think Kalil is the BPA under your scenario.

And with our injury history....I'd rather be loaded with high quality young O-linemen than take a player at #1 who really didn't warrant the selection.

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Under that scenario.....there is a chance Arizona might want to jump up and draft Matt Kalil because Levi Brown is atrocious at LT for them. Having signed Kolb for millions...the Cards HAVE to address LT. And if there are 1-2 other teams hungry for a LT in the Top 10 along with the Cardinals... we might be able to pit them against each other and engineer a trade-down.

If we have no trade down offers and absolutely HAD to take a player.... I would take Kalil despite knowing we already have Castonzo and Ijalana.... because I don't believe Blackmon or Jeffery are anywhere near the quality of AJ Green or Julio Jones, last year's premier WRs. I don't see Coples as a justifiable value at #1.... and a RB at #1 is out of the question.

Whatever happens in a situation where Luck stays at Stanford.... which I highly doubt will happen.... we can't just reach for a perceived need.

I think Kalil is the BPA under your scenario.

And with our injury history....I'd rather be loaded with high quality young O-linemen than take a player at #1 who really didn't warrant the selection.

I agree with this assessment although Richardson from LSU is a thumper and looks like a great back for the future. If we can get a good guard or right tackle in rounds 3 or 4 then I think we have just as much chance of having a good line.

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I agree with this assessment although Richardson from LSU is a thumper and looks like a great back for the future. If we can get a good guard or right tackle in rounds 3 or 4 then I think we have just as much chance of having a good line.

He might be a very good back in the NFL.... but I just don't think we'd draft a RB #1 unless we're looking at Marshall Faulk 2.0

I agree with looking for OG help in maybe rounds 2-4

Hopefully.... this scenario of Luck staying at Stanford doesn't happen whether we want him OR want to trade down.

I really doubt he will.

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If we have no trade down offers and absolutely HAD to take a player.... I would take Kalil despite knowing we already have Castonzo and Ijalana.... because I don't believe Blackmon or Jeffery are anywhere near the quality of AJ Green or Julio Jones, last year's premier WRs. I don't see Coples as a justifiable value at #1.... and a RB at #1 is out of the question.

Are you kidding me? Alshon Jeffery and Justin Blackmon were both better than A.J. Green and Julio Jones comming out of college. Last year, there's a reason that Blackmon and Jeffery were the All-Americans and that Green and Jones were not. I'm pretty sure Ryan Broyles was an All-American too last year.

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Are you kidding me? Alshon Jeffery and Justin Blackmon were both better than A.J. Green and Julio Jones comming out of college. Last year, there's a reason that Blackmon and Jeffery were the All-Americans and that Green and Jones were not. I'm pretty sure Ryan Broyles was an All-American too last year.

As is often asserted by those who rail against the prospect of drafting Andrew Luck......let's see them do it in the NFL.

AJ Green and Jones ARE doing it.

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As is often asserted by those who rail against the prospect of drafting Andrew Luck......let's see them do it in the NFL.

AJ Green and Jones ARE doing it.

Your saying that A.J. Green and Julio Jones are better than Alshon Jeffery and Justin Blackmon. The last 2 haven't played in the NFL so you can't compare them. If you compare their production in college, then Jeffery and Blackmon are better. Good for Green and Jones that they are succeeding in the NFL.

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Your saying that A.J. Green and Julio Jones are better than Alshon Jeffery and Justin Blackmon. The last 2 haven't played in the NFL so you can't compare them. If you compare their production in college, then Jeffery and Blackmon are better. Good for Green and Jones that they are succeeding in the NFL.

I know they're having great college careers and great numbers.... but especially with WRs we've seen them move on to the NFL against bigger, faster more talented DBs and struggle at the pro level. Especially Steve Spurrier's WRs.

We really gotta be careful with college stats.

So far.... it looks like Green and Jones have translated their speed, size, hands and route-running very well as rookies.

Between Blackmon and Jeffrey.... I think Blackmon is better.

We'll see.... but I'd be extremely concerned if the Colts HAD to make a selection at #1 overall without Luck in the draft and no trade-down partner, and selected either of these guys.

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if you have the number 1 pick and luck goes back to college you have to find a way to get a #1 next year from a bad team and hope it ends up as the 1st overall. A team like the rams who already have a QB would be a target.

How great would it be if we could trade down get a 1st (5-10) a 2nd and a 4th this year. Plus a number 1 next year and maybe even more. Especially if we could be lucky enough to have that #1 be the first pick in 2012 and end up with luck next year.

Even if we didnt we would likely have a top 10 pick and having a top 10 pick two years in a row would go a long way for a team that lacks top tier talent.

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I know they're having great college careers and great numbers.... but especially with WRs we've seen them move on to the NFL against bigger, faster more talented DBs and struggle at the pro level. Especially Steve Spurrier's WRs.

We really gotta be careful with college stats.

So far.... it looks like Green and Jones have translated their speed, size, hands and route-running very well as rookies.

Between Blackmon and Jeffrey.... I think Blackmon is better.

We'll see.... but I'd be extremely concerned if the Colts HAD to make a selection at #1 overall without Luck in the draft and no trade-down partner, and selected either of these guys.

I think even if luck doesnt enter we can find a trade down partner. Teams are always looking to pick up the best QB available and its likely that jones or barkley would suddenly become hot commodities (though not as hot as luck). I think we will have no problems trading out of the number 1 pick when the time comes because of the new cap rules. How much we can get is dependent on who is available.

I also agree that blackmon is better than jeffery. Statistics aside (i know they are inflated because of the spread) this guys is a beast. He is better than Dez Bryant, runs better routes and is just as physical. The only thing that concerns me is he tends to fumble around the goalline, but that is extremely correctable. In any case, he is the type of receiver that the colts have never had but could definitely use.

He is like pierre garcon 5.0. He is everything pierre could be but probably never will be.

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I know they're having great college careers and great numbers.... but especially with WRs we've seen them move on to the NFL against bigger, faster more talented DBs and struggle at the pro level. Especially Steve Spurrier's WRs.

We really gotta be careful with college stats.

So far.... it looks like Green and Jones have translated their speed, size, hands and route-running very well as rookies.

Between Blackmon and Jeffrey.... I think Blackmon is better.

We'll see.... but I'd be extremely concerned if the Colts HAD to make a selection at #1 overall without Luck in the draft and no trade-down partner, and selected either of these guys.

No CB in the NFL will be able to manhandle Alshon Jeffery. He's way to big and physical at 6'4" 233 lbs. He also is a good route runner from what I've read. The only thing lacking is elite speed, but that is what they said about A.J. Green too, and Jeffery has 27 lbs. on Green. Also, Alshon already goes up against NFL caliber CB's in the SEC with guys like Dre Kirpatrick, Morris Claiborne, and former Florida CB Janoris Jenkins.

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I don't understand why everyone wants a WR. The only receiver I would want is Kendall Wright and that's only if he drops to the 4th round. Reggie Wayne is probably going to be resign if PM is healthy, and we have Garcon, Collie, and White to back up, on top of Clark who can play slot. Draft a receiver next year or the year after taht. Colts should go:

Andrew Luck

David Decastro

Stephen Gilmore

Kendall Wright

DT

OT

CB

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No CB in the NFL will be able to manhandle Alshon Jeffery. He's way to big and physical at 6'4" 233 lbs. He also is a good route runner from what I've read. The only thing lacking is elite speed, but that is what they said about A.J. Green too, and Jeffery has 27 lbs. on Green. Also, Alshon already goes up against NFL caliber CB's in the SEC with guys like Dre Kirpatrick, Morris Claiborne, and former Florida CB Janoris Jenkins.

Once he goes up against real NFL CBs like Revis, Nnambi, Asante, Taylor, Davis, Grimes, then I'll make my judgment on him. Dre Kirkpatrick and Jenkins are not NFL CBs, Claiborne is really the only Pro-ready one, but he wouldn't be NFL caliber now, he'd be NFL caliber in 2-3 years. I'm not sold on Jeffrey, and I would not spend our 1st roiund pick on him.

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No CB in the NFL will be able to manhandle Alshon Jeffery. He's way to big and physical at 6'4" 233 lbs. He also is a good route runner from what I've read. The only thing lacking is elite speed, but that is what they said about A.J. Green too, and Jeffery has 27 lbs. on Green. Also, Alshon already goes up against NFL caliber CB's in the SEC with guys like Dre Kirpatrick, Morris Claiborne, and former Florida CB Janoris Jenkins.

Check that..... Alshon Jeffrey has never played a football game against LSU.

And his games against Florida were pedestrian.

Look.... all I'm saying is that I don't think he or Blackmon are worthy of a #1 overall selection.

Out of the players the OP listed, IMO Kalil is the only one with #1 overall talent if we can't trade-down and are absolutely forced to take a player.... setting aside our needs.

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Once he goes up against real NFL CBs like Revis, Nnambi, Asante, Taylor, Davis, Grimes, then I'll make my judgment on him. Dre Kirkpatrick and Jenkins are not NFL CBs, Claiborne is really the only Pro-ready one, but he wouldn't be NFL caliber now, he'd be NFL caliber in 2-3 years. I'm not sold on Jeffrey, and I would not spend our 1st roiund pick on him.

I would call Morris Claiborne an NFL CB. The other guys I listed, Kirkpatrick and Jenkins, are the best that college football has and Jeffery played very well against them. I wouldn't draft another LT, DE, QB, or RB, so WR is about the only option left.

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I would call Morris Claiborne an NFL CB. The other guys I listed, Kirkpatrick and Jenkins, are the best that college football has and Jeffery played very well against them. I wouldn't draft another LT, DE, QB, or RB, so WR is about the only option left.

That's what they said about LSU's Patrick Peterson and in spite of his KR skills, he's having a very tough year at CB for Arizona.

And Jeffrey was held by Florida's CBs to 6 catches for under 60 yards in both games he's played against them.

These college "studs" .... including Luck..... are not automatic NFL stars. And we really gotta be smart with that top pick if we get it.

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I would call Morris Claiborne an NFL CB. The other guys I listed, Kirkpatrick and Jenkins, are the best that college football has and Jeffery played very well against them. I wouldn't draft another LT, DE, QB, or RB, so WR is about the only option left.

The best that college football has doesn't necessarily mean that they're going to be good NFL players. Claiborne is the best CB, and is going to be great in the NFL, but that's what they said about Peterson, but Peterson is not having that great of an impact on defense, that is.

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Are you kidding me? Alshon Jeffery and Justin Blackmon were both better than A.J. Green and Julio Jones comming out of college. Last year, there's a reason that Blackmon and Jeffery were the All-Americans and that Green and Jones were not. I'm pretty sure Ryan Broyles was an All-American too last year.

probably because aj green was suspended for the first 4 games of the season. from what i've heard neither jeffery nor blackmon are in the green/jones class. personally i have no idea...

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That's what they said about LSU's Patrick Peterson and in spite of his KR skills, he's having a very tough year at CB for Arizona.

And Jeffrey was held by Florida's CBs to 6 catches for under 60 yards in both games he's played against them.

These college "studs" .... including Luck..... are not automatic NFL stars. And we really gotta be smart with that top pick if we get it.

I know college players are not guaranteed successes in the NFL, but from the choices we have the only guy that makes sense to me is Jeffery.

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