Washington Run Game.

[TruBlue]

They just put up over 230 yards on the ground on TB. They dominated the trenches. Does this change your opinion of last weeks game?

I think like the coaches have said all week. It is never as bad as your think it is, Or how good you think it is when you look at film.

Missed protection calls on O and gap assignments on D. The war is in the trenches.

[Fx Stryker]

Morris wasn't even in the game? Or was that because he was a starter?

[Warhorse]

They just put up over 230 yards on the ground on TB. They dominated the trenches. Does this change your opinion of last weeks game?

I think like the coaches have said all week. It is never as bad as your think it is, Or how good you think it is when you look at film.

Missed protection calls on O and gap assignments on D. The war is in the trenches.

It seems to be one way or the other, we are going to the playoffs, or we stink. Can't just one fan say,

"7-9 or 9-7...no more or no less"

Heh......heh...... ;)

[Smonroe]

They just put up over 230 yards on the ground on TB. They dominated the trenches. Does this change your opinion of last weeks game?

I think like the coaches have said all week. It is never as bad as your think it is, Or how good you think it is when you look at film.

Missed protection calls on O and gap assignments on D. The war is in the trenches.

How many first line players were even in the game for either team, and for how long? I suspect very few if any, and then not for long. So, the point is moot since you can't make that comparison.

Bottom line, the last preseason games are really for filling out the bottom of the roster. The teams should give those tickets away because fans aren't seeing NFL games, IMHO.

[Smitto]

Think fans are just getting back into the whole "on any given sunday" thought process.... seems like its all about stats and things like that these days... i think the colts have done pretty good so far, they have shown they can dominate lesser teams and keep up with top brass teams.

Colts win the AFC south thats what i say

[TruBlue]

It seems to be one way or the other, we are going to the playoffs, or we stink. Can't just one fan say,

"7-9 or 9-7...no more or no less"

Heh......heh...... ;)

I say we are 9-7 wild card team sneak in with the 6th seed.

[betheafan41]

Morris wasn't even in the game? Or was that because he was a starter?

according to some reports alfredo morris is the starting RB in week 1 for the skins. they dont want to over use Hightower after his injury from last season, helu and royster are recovering from injuries also. honestly in my opinion the skins have a very deep running attack. but shannahan always has as a head coach. he loves to run

[betheafan41]

I say we are 9-7 wild card team sneak in with the 6th seed.

although a wild card would be nice, i honestly think we win the division in week 17 at 9-7. i think both houston and indy will be 8-8 going into the final game in indy winner takes all. some will call me crazy but thats what i think is going to happen.

[holeymoley99]

_{I think Royster is the best back, then Helu, Hightower and then morris but Shanny always goes with the hot hand or foot in this case}

[Qwiz]

although a wild card would be nice, i honestly think we win the division in week 17 at 9-7. i think both houston and indy will be 8-8 going into the final game in indy winner takes all. some will call me crazy but thats what i think is going to happen.

Crazy lol.

[gbrads_rants]

according to some reports alfredo morris is the starting RB in week 1 for the skins. they dont want to over use Hightower after his injury from last season, helu and royster are recovering from injuries also. honestly in my opinion the skins have a very deep running attack. but shannahan always has as a head coach. he loves to run

Exactly...Shanahan is def a Run first coach...Morris is the starter...I def drafted him for my fantasy team lol but seriously...they have a good team...

[The Peytonator]

Exactly...Shanahan is def a Run first coach...Morris is the starter...I def drafted him for my fantasy team lol but seriously...they have a good team...

Agreed. Shanahan loves to pound the rock. We didn't play as well as we could have, plus Redding was hurt if I'm not mistaken. The results of that game were a culmination of things. In the past we've had games where we get gashed by someone we didn't expect to be gashed by, then the next week we shut down a power running team.

[Vance]

So your 1st string D is just as bad as Tampa's 2nd string D?

[CR91]

if you have the lineman to run the zone blocking scheme you'll run on anyone

[TKnight24]

It seems to be one way or the other, we are going to the playoffs, or we stink. Can't just one fan say,

"7-9 or 9-7...no more or no less"

Heh......heh...... ;)

Ahhh, you've caught on.

By the way, I own copyrights on that quote. Saying it without giving me credit is a federal offense hahaha

[braveheartcolt]

Ahhh, you've caught on.

By the way, I own copyrights on that quote. Saying it without giving me credit is a federal offense hahaha

I say 8-8, give or take one.

[Gavin]

I figure this is a good a spot as any to put this since this has to do with the run game against us but I will give a play by play of Mookie at NT in the Washington game (the run plays only)

Play 1 1st quarter- 14:46 Mookie lined up across from Will Montgomery (#63) drove him sideways 3 yards pancaking him to the ground

Play 2 1st quarter-6:05 3 yard gain by Redskins Mookie on the tackle

Play 3 2nd quarter Mookie got two yards of penetration against Montgomery put him om the ground (Ricardo Matthews got manhandled on that play)

Play 4 5:04 2nd quarter 2nd quarter Mookie gets knocked up to 1 foot (by a double team before working his way through both guys while gaining 2 yards of penetration

Play 5-4:32 2nd quarter Mookie on Montgomery, Mookie threw Montgomery aside but the play was bounced outside were we lost containment, Mookie was chasing the play down from behind but wasnt in on the tackle but was around it. Conner could not get off his block (Made by Trent Williams)

Play 6 3:49 2nd quarter Mookie knocked back 1 yard before spinning free and diving in on a tackle for minimal gain (5 yards because Morris fell forward)

Play 7 2:00 Mookie on Montgomery Worked Montgomery all the way down the to the sideline taking him out of the play (Montgomery's helmet got knocked loose in the process)

3rd quarter 11:57 Mookie on Montgomery, Mookie got two yards of penetration, Freeney lost containment

3rd quarter 11:13 Mookie knocked back a yard sideways before getting free

Our Defensive Ends and OLB's did not do a good job of containing outside runs

[stat2883]

The skins' depth is quite a bit better than Tampa's at this point. That was on display quite plainly with the vast majority of both teams' #1s sitting out. Washington is a couple years along into their roster retooling while Tampa is just now going through coaching/scheme/personnel changes. I expect Washington's running game to slow down some once live bullets start flying. They have some issues along that front line that were evident last year. They drafted a couple players in the middle rounds to try and provide competition, but they aren't ready yet. Like Gavin's post above shows, Montgomery gets pushed around too easily. They got Jamal Brown from the Saints a couple years ago to play RT, but he can't stay healthy. Really the only 2 solid starters on that line are Trent Williams (LT) and Chris Chester (LG). RG and RT are in flux. Lichtensteiger (RG) comes back from injury opening day, but who knows what kind of shape he'll be in. Their TEs, Fred Davis in particular, have trouble sealing the edge on stretch plays and that hurts a player like Helu who prefers to bounce it outside. Royster is a better inside runner and those situations don't effect him as much. Morris is a plow, but still pretty much unproven. Hightower was a known commodity and the best pass protector of the three, but after his injury...we'll have to see. They have 4 decent runners, but none of them are what I would call a "complete" running back. Hightower is the closest, but that injury is a huge unknown.

All that being said, I still think the Colts will struggle in the trenches on both sides of the ball, especially being in the first year of a 4-3 to 3-4 conversion. Outside containment I feel might be an issue all year long. Vontae Davis will help that some on runs to his side, as well as Freeney and Mathis growing into their new roles. There is enough beef in the 3 down linemen to hopefully eat up blockers the way their supposed to since they'll be playing primarily 2-gap. Grabbing Redding from Baltimore I think was a good move assuming that knee isn't a long term issue.

All in all, I'm looking around 6-10 for the colts this year. I see the skins finishing in the same ballpark - 6 or 7 wins.

[Fx Stryker]

although a wild card would be nice, i honestly think we win the division in week 17 at 9-7. i think both houston and indy will be 8-8 going into the final game in indy winner takes all. some will call me crazy but thats what i think is going to happen.

Okay thanks.

Exactly...Shanahan is def a Run first coach...Morris is the starter...I def drafted him for my fantasy team lol but seriously...they have a good team...

I wanted to know for the same reason!

[mark5362]

It seems to be one way or the other, we are going to the playoffs, or we stink. Can't just one fan say,

"7-9 or 9-7...no more or no less"

Heh......heh...... ;)

It's gonna be better then last year.So I'll be happy with it. 5-11 to 11-5 I'm truly giving them a pass for this year with new players,coaches and GM, However, I don't think there going to take it.

[YOUR GM]

So your 1st string D is just as bad as Tampa's 2nd string D?

[krunk]

I'm too tired to write a long post, but I will say that the Redskins appear to have a pretty good team overall.

I don't think we played against a bunch of slouches. Shanahan has them going the right direction