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2006Coltsbestever Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 For the fact so many people were sad/mad over this move and complained about the way we did it, I would prefer to have our own separate ROH, greatest players, and team accomplishments just for the Indianapolis Colts. What happened in Baltimore can stay in Baltimore, Baltimore isn't Indianapolis. I am content with what we have accomplished here in Indianapolis which begin in 1984. Since 1984-2023: 40 seasons here as Indianapolis. Division Championships - 11 = 1987 (AFC East), 1999 (AFC East), 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2009, 2010, 2013, 2014. AFC Final 4 Appearances - 5 = 1995, 2003, 2006, 2009, 2014. AFC SB Appearances - 2 = 2006, 2009. SB Championships - 1 = 2006. Great players that have played in Indianapolis: QB's 1. Peyton Manning 2. Andrew Luck 3. Jim Harbaugh (had 1 great season but it was important) RB's 1. Edge James 2. Eric Dickerson 3. Marshall Faulk 4. Jonathan Taylor WR's 1. Marvin Harrison 2. Reggie Wayne 3. T.Y. Hilton TE's 1. Dallas Clark 2. Ken Dilger O.Lineman we have had 1. Chris Hinton - OT/OG (could play either side) 2. Jeff Saturday - C 3. Quenton Nelson - LOG 4. Tarik Glenn - LOT 5. Tony Castonzo - LOT D.Line we have had 1. Dwight Freeney - DE 2. Robert Mathis - DE 3. DeForest Buckner - DT 4. Tony Siragusa - DT LB's 1. Darius (Shaq) Leonard - OLB 2. Gary Brackett - MLB 3. Duane Bickett - OLB 3. Cato June - OLB (underrated, he had some key INT's in his day) CB's 1. Vontae Davis - RCB 2. Ray Buchanan - LCB 3. Kelvin Hayden - LCB Safeties 1. Bob Sanders - SS 2. Antoine Bethea - Mainly FS/some SS Punters 1. Pat McAfee 2. Rohn Stark Kickers 1. Adam Vinatieri Head Coaches 1. Tony Dungy 2. Ted Marchibroda GM's 1. Bill Polian - Still should have never given up on the undefeated season in 2009 but he built a hell of a team here! Owners 1. Jim Irsay As far as returning Punts and Kicks 1. Clarence Verdin was the best ever here. I will put this 40-year resume against any other franchise and come out OK. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunk Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 1 hour ago, CR91 said: Once again thanks for sharing this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CR91 Posted July 15 Author Share Posted July 15 13 minutes ago, Dunk said: Once again thanks for sharing this. Of course! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CR91 Posted July 15 Author Share Posted July 15 I'm kinda surprised they didn't mention the Dickerson trade. While it didn't end well, that was the first superstar the colts had when they came to Indianapolis 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 2 minutes ago, CR91 said: I'm kinda surprised they didn't mention the Dickerson trade. While it didn't end well, that was the first superstar the colts had when they came to Indianapolis That put us on the map. We won the Division in 1987 after getting him and he won the Rushing Title in 1988. That Halloween Monday Night game was the most unreal thing I have seen. It was like watching someone play Tecmo Bowl and they just kept running Dickerson . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CR91 Posted July 15 Author Share Posted July 15 10 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said: That put us on the map. We won the Division in 1987 after getting him and he won the Rushing Title in 1988. That Halloween Monday Night game was the most unreal thing I have seen. It was like watching someone play Tecmo Bowl and they just kept running Dickerson . I've seen the highlights. Dickerson was JT before JT. Just a greyhound you couldn't catch in the openfield 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Hammonds Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 "Lord, help our Colts....." "Gloooooory, and praise to our men so bold!" Brings a tear to the eye to hear what I heard on the radio back in the day. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunk Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 16 hours ago, CR91 said: I've seen the highlights. Dickerson was JT before JT. Just a greyhound you couldn't catch in the openfield Dickerson ran standing tall, and was so smooth he looked like he was dogging it, but the guys in pursuit just kept falling further behind. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOMDColtsfan Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 22 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said: For the fact so many people were sad/mad over this move and complained about the way we did it, I would prefer to have our own separate ROH, greatest players, and team accomplishments just for the Indianapolis Colts. What happened in Baltimore can stay in Baltimore, Baltimore isn't Indianapolis. I am content with what we have accomplished here in Indianapolis which begin in 1984. Since 1984-2023: 40 seasons here as Indianapolis. Division Championships - 11 = 1987 (AFC East), 1999 (AFC East), 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2009, 2010, 2013, 2014. AFC Final 4 Appearances - 5 = 1995, 2003, 2006, 2009, 2014. AFC SB Appearances - 2 = 2006, 2009. SB Championships - 1 = 2006. Great players that have played in Indianapolis: QB's 1. Peyton Manning 2. Andrew Luck 3. Jim Harbaugh (had 1 great season but it was important) RB's 1. Edge James 2. Eric Dickerson 3. Marshall Faulk 4. Jonathan Taylor WR's 1. Marvin Harrison 2. Reggie Wayne 3. T.Y. Hilton TE's 1. Dallas Clark 2. Ken Dilger O.Lineman we have had 1. Chris Hinton - OT/OG (could play either side) 2. Jeff Saturday - C 3. Quenton Nelson - LOG 4. Tarik Glenn - LOT 5. Tony Castonzo - LOT D.Line we have had 1. Dwight Freeney - DE 2. Robert Mathis - DE 3. DeForest Buckner - DT 4. Tony Siragusa - DT LB's 1. Darius (Shaq) Leonard - OLB 2. Gary Brackett - MLB 3. Duane Bickett - OLB 3. Cato June - OLB (underrated, he had some key INT's in his day) CB's 1. Vontae Davis - RCB 2. Ray Buchanan - LCB 3. Kelvin Hayden - LCB Safeties 1. Bob Sanders - SS 2. Antoine Bethea - Mainly FS/some SS Punters 1. Pat McAfee 2. Rohn Stark Kickers 1. Adam Vinatieri Head Coaches 1. Tony Dungy 2. Ted Marchibroda GM's 1. Bill Polian - Still should have never given up on the undefeated season in 2009 but he built a hell of a team here! Owners 1. Jim Irsay As far as returning Punts and Kicks 1. Clarence Verdin was the best ever here. I will put this 40-year resume against any other franchise and come out OK. Disagree on this take. Doesn't sound fair to the many great "Colts" players from the Baltimore era. Sad they get kind of lost in the shuffle with an asterisk. Were never "Ravens" players and forgotten as Colts. Nah, don't like it even with the way the move went down. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superrep1967 Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 23 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said: For the fact so many people were sad/mad over this move and complained about the way we did it, I would prefer to have our own separate ROH, greatest players, and team accomplishments just for the Indianapolis Colts. What happened in Baltimore can stay in Baltimore, Baltimore isn't Indianapolis. I am content with what we have accomplished here in Indianapolis which begin in 1984. Since 1984-2023: 40 seasons here as Indianapolis. Division Championships - 11 = 1987 (AFC East), 1999 (AFC East), 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2009, 2010, 2013, 2014. AFC Final 4 Appearances - 5 = 1995, 2003, 2006, 2009, 2014. AFC SB Appearances - 2 = 2006, 2009. SB Championships - 1 = 2006. Great players that have played in Indianapolis: QB's 1. Peyton Manning 2. Andrew Luck 3. Jim Harbaugh (had 1 great season but it was important) RB's 1. Edge James 2. Eric Dickerson 3. Marshall Faulk 4. Jonathan Taylor WR's 1. Marvin Harrison 2. Reggie Wayne 3. T.Y. Hilton TE's 1. Dallas Clark 2. Ken Dilger O.Lineman we have had 1. Chris Hinton - OT/OG (could play either side) 2. Jeff Saturday - C 3. Quenton Nelson - LOG 4. Tarik Glenn - LOT 5. Tony Castonzo - LOT D.Line we have had 1. Dwight Freeney - DE 2. Robert Mathis - DE 3. DeForest Buckner - DT 4. Tony Siragusa - DT LB's 1. Darius (Shaq) Leonard - OLB 2. Gary Brackett - MLB 3. Duane Bickett - OLB 3. Cato June - OLB (underrated, he had some key INT's in his day) CB's 1. Vontae Davis - RCB 2. Ray Buchanan - LCB 3. Kelvin Hayden - LCB Safeties 1. Bob Sanders - SS 2. Antoine Bethea - Mainly FS/some SS Punters 1. Pat McAfee 2. Rohn Stark Kickers 1. Adam Vinatieri Head Coaches 1. Tony Dungy 2. Ted Marchibroda GM's 1. Bill Polian - Still should have never given up on the undefeated season in 2009 but he built a hell of a team here! Owners 1. Jim Irsay As far as returning Punts and Kicks 1. Clarence Verdin was the best ever here. I will put this 40-year resume against any other franchise and come out OK. Polian was great but it helped he had Peyton for all of his tenure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 11 hours ago, superrep1967 said: Polian was great but it helped he had Peyton for all of his tenure. I agree, it is hard telling how good we would have been with just a good QB and not Peyton. I doubt we win a SB without Peyton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 12 hours ago, SOMDColtsfan said: Disagree on this take. Doesn't sound fair to the many great "Colts" players from the Baltimore era. Sad they get kind of lost in the shuffle with an asterisk. Were never "Ravens" players and forgotten as Colts. Nah, don't like it even with the way the move went down. That is a fair take but when Johnny Unitas said he didn't want anything to do with Indianapolis and all the records he accomplished should stay in Baltimore, that was the wrong answer for me. Johnny Unitas is in my top 5 QBs of all-time but he disrespected the city of Indianapolis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coltsfan1953 Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 I've been a Colts fan for almost 60 years, I loved them Baltimore and in Indianapolis. Just a plain Colts fan. I lived in WV for most of my life and would root for this team no matter where they are(except California) I think all the records and such should stay with the team. Go Colts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMichael557 Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 you can get good flights for wv to California. There are worst places to watch the team (I am from wv as well but only a Colts fan for only about 58 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 Let's keep this in mind, the move was about Baltimore, the Colts played in the cold and cruddy butt field. The players hated it. I loved getting a team. We gave them a dome to play in and great fans that always wanted a team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coltsfan1953 Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 2 hours ago, JMichael557 said: you can get good flights for wv to California. There are worst places to watch the team (I am from wv as well but only a Colts fan for only about 58 years. I live in Jax FL now, may go to the game down here, representing the blue of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 How many players from the Baltimore Colts are in the Ring of Honor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CR91 Posted July 17 Author Share Posted July 17 1 hour ago, Superman said: How many players from the Baltimore Colts are in the Ring of Honor? If I had to guess Unitas, Berry, Lenny Moore, Buddy Young, Jim Parker, Gino, Art Donovan, and Mackey. Maybe Bert Jones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 1 hour ago, Superman said: How many players from the Baltimore Colts are in the Ring of Honor? None. That is how it should be IMO. Even Jim Irsay knows it lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 @Superman, here is the list - Colts Ring of Honor: Robert Irsay Bill Polian Tony Dungy Ted Marchibroda Peyton Manning Jim Harbaugh Marvin Harrison Reggie Wayne Bill Brooks Edge James Eric Dickerson Marshall Faulk Dallas Clark Chris Hinton Tarik Glenn Jeff Saturday Dwight Freeney Robert Mathis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 6 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said: @Superman, here is the list - Colts Ring of Honor: Robert Irsay Bill Polian Tony Dungy Ted Marchibroda Peyton Manning Jim Harbaugh Marvin Harrison Reggie Wayne Bill Brooks Edge James Eric Dickerson Marshall Faulk Dallas Clark Chris Hinton Tarik Glenn Jeff Saturday Dwight Freeney Robert Mathis Oh, so most of their history did stay in Baltimore, and has been acknowledged by the Ravens, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 Just now, Superman said: Oh, so most of their history did stay in Baltimore, and has been acknowledged by the Ravens, right? Seems like it. I am ok with it too, but many aren't. I understand because some people grew up watching Johnny Unitas and Bert Jones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 @Supermanbut we still claim SB 5 as a Championship. When people say how many SB's have the Colts won, everyone says 2 - 1970, 2006. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNewGuy Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 I am a Colts fan period. I root for the team, not the city where they play. If they moved again, I would still be a Colts fan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CR91 Posted July 18 Author Share Posted July 18 16 hours ago, Superman said: Oh, so most of their history did stay in Baltimore, and has been acknowledged by the Ravens, right? If that's the case, why keep so many jersey numbers retired? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingus McGirt Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 17 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said: None. That is how it should be IMO. Even Jim Irsay knows it lol. Didn’t they All wear a Horseshoe-adorned helmet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CR91 Posted July 18 Author Share Posted July 18 1 minute ago, Dingus McGirt said: Didn’t they All wear a Horseshoe-adorned helmet? In all honesty, the only ones that really care about the move are those old enough to even remember the Baltimore Colts. Ravens have a rich history already with multiple championships and constantly in contention every year. Just like how we "stole" their team, they stole the Browns. Let sleeping dogs lie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingus McGirt Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 16 minutes ago, CR91 said: In all honesty, the only ones that really care about the move are those old enough to even remember the Baltimore Colts. Ravens have a rich history already with multiple championships and constantly in contention every year. Just like how we "stole" their team, they stole the Browns. Let sleeping dogs lie Agree, but as a fan of both versions of the Colts, I hate to see the old greats tossed into the dustbin of history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 1 hour ago, CR91 said: If that's the case, why keep so many jersey numbers retired? Maybe that's a better question than what I asked. How many Baltimore Colts have their numbers retired by the Indianapolis Colts? I could look all this up, just figured I'd ask some of the people who take the Baltimore history more seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CR91 Posted July 18 Author Share Posted July 18 Just now, Superman said: Maybe that's a better question than what I asked. How many Baltimore Colts have their numbers retired by the Indianapolis Colts? I could look all this up, just figured I'd ask some of the people who take the Baltimore history more seriously. Everyone I listed 19 22 24 70 82 89 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 6 hours ago, TheNewGuy said: I am a Colts fan period. I root for the team, not the city where they play. If they moved again, I would still be a Colts fan. Yeah, I have no ties to Baltimore or Indy, so it's not a topic that I'm particularly invested in. Still, I know it's a huge deal to people from those cities, or who were around when the move happened. I haven't even listened to this podcast series, maybe I will at some point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CR91 Posted July 18 Author Share Posted July 18 22 minutes ago, Dingus McGirt said: Agree, but as a fan of both versions of the Colts, I hate to see the old greats tossed into the dustbin of history. No one is saying forget them, but those that still have hurt feelings need to let it go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 7 minutes ago, CR91 said: Everyone I listed 19 22 24 70 82 89 The Ravens have those players in their RoH. I don't think they officially retire any numbers, though. The only Indy Colt whose number has been officially retired is Peyton. So I guess the Colts retiring those Baltimore numbers is their way of honoring the Baltimore history. It doesn't really take anything away from Baltimore, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CR91 Posted July 18 Author Share Posted July 18 2 minutes ago, Superman said: The Ravens have those players in their RoH. I don't think they officially retire any numbers, though. The only Indy Colt whose number has been officially retired is Peyton. So I guess the Colts retiring those Baltimore numbers is their way of honoring the Baltimore history. It doesn't really take anything away from Baltimore, IMO. I don't think so. Steve Smith wore 89 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Crow Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 On 7/17/2024 at 12:19 AM, 2006Coltsbestever said: That is a fair take but when Johnny Unitas said he didn't want anything to do with Indianapolis and all the records he accomplished should stay in Baltimore, that was the wrong answer for me. Johnny Unitas is in my top 5 QBs of all-time but he disrespected the city of Indianapolis. Bob Irsay disrespected him by not informing him of the trade to San Diego ahead of time , as agreed to. Unitas didn’t hate Indy, but he wasn’t going to pretend he played for the Indianapolis Colts when he never played a snap in that city. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Crow Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 On 7/15/2024 at 1:00 PM, 2006Coltsbestever said: For the fact so many people were sad/mad over this move and complained about the way we did it, I would prefer to have our own separate ROH, greatest players, and team accomplishments just for the Indianapolis Colts. What happened in Baltimore can stay in Baltimore, Baltimore isn't Indianapolis. I am content with what we have accomplished here in Indianapolis which begin in 1984. Since 1984-2023: 40 seasons here as Indianapolis. Division Championships - 11 = 1987 (AFC East), 1999 (AFC East), 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2009, 2010, 2013, 2014. AFC Final 4 Appearances - 5 = 1995, 2003, 2006, 2009, 2014. AFC SB Appearances - 2 = 2006, 2009. SB Championships - 1 = 2006. Great players that have played in Indianapolis: QB's 1. Peyton Manning 2. Andrew Luck 3. Jim Harbaugh (had 1 great season but it was important) RB's 1. Edge James 2. Eric Dickerson 3. Marshall Faulk 4. Jonathan Taylor WR's 1. Marvin Harrison 2. Reggie Wayne 3. T.Y. Hilton TE's 1. Dallas Clark 2. Ken Dilger O.Lineman we have had 1. Chris Hinton - OT/OG (could play either side) 2. Jeff Saturday - C 3. Quenton Nelson - LOG 4. Tarik Glenn - LOT 5. Tony Castonzo - LOT D.Line we have had 1. Dwight Freeney - DE 2. Robert Mathis - DE 3. DeForest Buckner - DT 4. Tony Siragusa - DT LB's 1. Darius (Shaq) Leonard - OLB 2. Gary Brackett - MLB 3. Duane Bickett - OLB 3. Cato June - OLB (underrated, he had some key INT's in his day) CB's 1. Vontae Davis - RCB 2. Ray Buchanan - LCB 3. Kelvin Hayden - LCB Safeties 1. Bob Sanders - SS 2. Antoine Bethea - Mainly FS/some SS Punters 1. Pat McAfee 2. Rohn Stark Kickers 1. Adam Vinatieri Head Coaches 1. Tony Dungy 2. Ted Marchibroda GM's 1. Bill Polian - Still should have never given up on the undefeated season in 2009 but he built a hell of a team here! Owners 1. Jim Irsay As far as returning Punts and Kicks 1. Clarence Verdin was the best ever here. I will put this 40-year resume against any other franchise and come out OK. I totally agree with this. In Baltimore, we have the ROH for Baltimore Colts players, and the Unitas statue. We are prohibited from doing more due to Irsay , and the NFL, not allowing us to fly our Championship banners we rightfully won in our city. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superrep1967 Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 What I was surprised by they didn't mention how they told the players. Because the players we're going to have pack up and move to. The players at the time had to be spread out throughout the country respectfully. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 12 hours ago, The Old Crow said: I totally agree with this. In Baltimore, we have the ROH for Baltimore Colts players, and the Unitas statue. We are prohibited from doing more due to Irsay , and the NFL, not allowing us to fly our Championship banners we rightfully won in our city. I do feel bad for the diehards that lived in Baltimore when this took place. That had to suck, 1 minute you have had a team for years, then all the sudden you guys witness the ol' Mayflower semi headed our way to Indy. Baltimore Colts had tons of great history, 2 NFL Championships = 1958, 1959, and a SB win in 1970. Johnny Unitas was regarded the GOAT by most until Montana came along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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