Case to Washington

[oldunclemark]

Broncos send Case Keenum to Washington..

..and they'll pay part of his salary but they get a lot of cap space back

 

Good for Case..with Alex Smith out, he'll get a chance to start again

I think all the Skins have is Colt McCoy

 

 

Broncos have over $40 mil is cap space now....

Talk is their target is CJ Mosely

 

Edited March 8, 2019 by oldunclemark

[NewColtsFan]

The terms appear to be....

 

Denver gets a 6.

 

Washington get a 7 AND Keenum.

 

Yet the latest QB deal that shows what a buyers market it is this year, NOT a sellers market.   

[jvan1973]

And he was never heard from again....

[LJpalmbeacher2]

This is what happens when you try to be too smart AND OR too cheap for your own good.

They had Kurt Cousins. A above average player that plays the most premium position in sports. They wouldn't commit to him and give him his money not wanting to overpay him. So they wind up overpaying a older Alex Smith instead.

And now they have Case Keenum going forward. 

[NFLfan]

5 hours ago, LJpalmbeacher2 said:

This is what happens when you try to be too smart AND OR too cheap for your own good.

They had Kurt Cousins. A above average player that plays the most premium position in sports. They wouldn't commit to him and give him his money not wanting to overpay him. So they wind up overpaying a older Alex Smith instead.

And now they have Case Keenum going forward. 

 

You could look at it another way. The Vikings had Case Keenum and went 13-3. The following offseason, they overpaid for an overrated Kirk Cousins and went 8-7-1 with almost the same team. Now the Vikings have no cap flexibility because of the contract they gave Cousins and have to cut players to create cap space to strengthen the team around Cousins.

[oldunclemark]

13 hours ago, LJpalmbeacher2 said:

This is what happens when you try to be too smart AND OR too cheap for your own good.

They had Kurt Cousins. A above average player that plays the most premium position in sports. They wouldn't commit to him and give him his money not wanting to overpay him. So they wind up overpaying a older Alex Smith instead.

And now they have Case Keenum going forward. 

They could not have forseen Smith's injury...and they weren't being cheap on Cousins..they just weren't sure about him

..and Case is better than Colt McCoy.

You can go backward and correct decisions...You can only go forward..

[oldunclemark]

7 hours ago, NFLfan said:

 

You could look at it another way. The Vikings had Case Keenum and went 13-3. The following offseason, they overpaid for an overrated Kirk Cousins and went 8-7-1 with almost the same team. Now the Vikings have no cap flexibility because of the contract they gave Cousins and have to cut players to create cap space to strengthen the team around Cousins.

all true..they could have kept Case for half of what they pay Kirk.'

Case isn't bad..He just isn't really good..

….and ex-Pro Bowl LB Anthony Barr wouldn't be a free agent

[NFLfan]

1 hour ago, oldunclemark said:

all true..they could have kept Case for half of what they pay Kirk.'

Case isn't bad..He just isn't really good..

….and ex-Pro Bowl LB Anthony Barr wouldn't be a free agent

 

Exactly. The Vikings re-sign the players of value that they draft. We don't let them get to free agency. Barr is the first one we are losing. We may also have to cut Everson Griffen and Kyle Rudolph to free up some money. We would not have needed that had we signed Cousins or another QB for $20 million or less. I knew this would happen. 

[21isSuperman]

14 hours ago, LJpalmbeacher2 said:

This is what happens when you try to be too smart AND OR too cheap for your own good.

They had Kurt Cousins. A above average player that plays the most premium position in sports. They wouldn't commit to him and give him his money not wanting to overpay him. So they wind up overpaying a older Alex Smith instead.

And now they have Case Keenum going forward. 

I've always thought highly of Cousins too (perennial 4000 yard passer, will come close to 30 TDs each season), but when you look more closely, you could say he's very overrated. 

 

 

He doesn't play well in big games or against good teams.  His individual stats at the end of the season seem impressive, but they don't translate to wins.  I always thought Washington made a big mistake in letting him go, but after doing a bit more research on him, I completely understand it.

 

[2006Coltsbestever]

The problem was, the Vikings knew they weren't winning a SB with Case Keenum so they had to make a switch. Yeah he made it to the Title Game but so did Mark Sanchez, both were not making it farther than that. In order for an average QB to win a SB you need an all-time great defense or it will never happen. Like the Ravens had in 2000 with Dilfer or the Bucs had in 2002 with Johnson. Most of the time you need a good to great QB to win it all, like 90% of the time to be truthful. Before anyone says Foles won one, he is much better than Keenum. Flacco is too but Flacco still had a defense with Ray Lewis on it to get big stops.

[NFLfan]

4 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

The problem was, the Vikings knew they weren't winning a SB with Case Keenum so they had to make a switch. Yeah he made it to the Title Game but so did Mark Sanchez, both were not making it farther than that. In order for an average QB to win a SB you need an all-time great defense or it will never happen. Like the Ravens had in 2000 with Dilfer or the Bucs had in 2002 with Johnson. Most of the time you need a good to great QB to win it all, like 90% of the time to be truthful. Before anyone says Foles won one, he is much better than Keenum. Flacco is too but Flacco still had a defense with Ray Lewis on it to get big stops.

 

Yes, I know. Cousins was supposed to be an upgrade at QB. However, his contract has now made it difficult to sign other players to make winning a SB reality. If he earned $20 million/year, that would be $8 million that we would have to bolster the OL so that Cousins can play better. 

 

I'd rather have a middling QB at $15 million per year than a slightly better one at $28 million/year.

[NFLfan]

On 3/9/2019 at 10:01 AM, NFLfan said:

The Vikings re-sign the players of value that they draft. We don't let them get to free agency. Barr is the first one we are losing. We may also have to cut Everson Griffen and Kyle Rudolph to free up some money.

 

Well, I guess we are not losing Barr after all.