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At What Point Are The Colts Going To Work Peyton Out?

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You would think the Colts would put Manning through some kind of intense throwing regimen with a monumental decision looming right around the corner. Even if it would be a restructured incentive based deal I don't think you can go into a situation like this blindly. They have to access EXACTLY where he is right now to be able to make the most informed decision. In my opinion if they don't work him out soon it means they have already moved on. Thoughts?

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You would think the Colts would put Manning through some kind of intense throwing regimen with a monumental decision looming right around the corner. Even if it would be a restructured incentive based deal I don't think you can go into a situation like this blindly. They have to access EXACTLY where he is right now to be able to make the most informed decision. In my opinion if they don't work him out soon it means they have already moved on. Thoughts?

Where he is right now isnt the issue...

they need THEIR doctors to tell them he will be nearly 100% in September...

The incentive deal protects the Colts. If he dont play..they dont pay.

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You would think the Colts would put Manning through some kind of intense throwing regimen with a monumental decision looming right around the corner. Even if it would be a restructured incentive based deal I don't think you can go into a situation like this blindly. They have to access EXACTLY where he is right now to be able to make the most informed decision. In my opinion if they don't work him out soon it means they have already moved on. Thoughts?

It makes sense that the Colts do this intense observation of PM's workout shortly before March 8.

Since PM is still under contract, the Colts can order this done, if PM doesn't go off and hide.

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Why would they?

To evaluate PM's arm, and provide that information to Irsay.

All that is assuming, of course, that Irsay and PM are still in discussion mode regarding the revised contract.

If it has already been determined that there is no viable revised contract, no workout, just the preparation for the press release that says good bye.

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To evaluate PM's arm, and provide that information to Irsay.

All that is assuming, of course, that Irsay and PM are still in discussion mode regarding the revised contract.

If it has already been determined that there is no viable revised contract, no workout, just the preparation for the press release that says good bye.

Exactly what I was thinking. Hard to believe the guy paying the millions wouldn't want to know exactly where the arm is at this point. Heck........we all do! We should have some kind of reference point to go by being that the Colts watched him throw in December.

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To evaluate PM's arm, and provide that information to Irsay.

All that is assuming, of course, that Irsay and PM are still in discussion mode regarding the revised contract.

If it has already been determined that there is no viable revised contract, no workout, just the preparation for the press release that says good bye.

Which brings me back to why would they? I'll will gladly admit to being wrong, but I feel that ship has sailed.

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Obviously they will give Manning as much time as possible to heal before they work him out.

I don't understand the logic of thought that if they haven't worked him out by now he's been written off.

Its just you being impatient that lead you to that conclusion. Well that's my best guess anyway

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It's up to Manning really! Either he takes a pay cut and redo's the contract prior to March 8th or they release him. Irsay isn't going to pay him that $28 million. He can't, there's no way, it kills our cap. I want Manning back more than anyone but I've come to the conclusion he's not coming back to the Colts. It's about the money and the current contract won't allow that. It's up to Manning now.

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Why so doom and gloom? Where there is a will there is a way. If both sides want to then it can be done, but therein lies the problem....do both sides really want to?

FJC is not doom and gloom. He may be a charter member of the Debbie Downer club.

Maybe, just maybe, neither side really wants to do a deal, contrary to what many fans think.

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Why so doom and gloom? Where there is a will there is a way. If both sides want to then it can be done, but therein lies the problem....do both sides really want to?

I wouldn't call it doom and gloom.

I don't believe that it is as simple as that, and even if it were, like you said, i'm not sure both sides would really want to.

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Obviously they will give Manning as much time as possible to heal before they work him out.

I don't understand the logic of thought that if they haven't worked him out by now he's been written off.

Its just you being impatient that lead you to that conclusion. Well that's my best guess anyway

we all want to rush this decision....

..and they are taking their time to work out a deal...

...again..if they wanted to cut him..he'd be gone...You dont have to negotiate that.

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It's up to Manning really! Either he takes a pay cut and redo's the contract prior to March 8th or they release him. Irsay isn't going to pay him that $28 million. He can't, there's no way, it kills our cap. I want Manning back more than anyone but I've come to the conclusion he's not coming back to the Colts. It's about the money and the current contract won't allow that. It's up to Manning now.

I think it's more than just the money. Peyton wants to play for a team that wants to win now. The colts are sending out signals that they are fully committed to rebuilding. Why would Peyton want to come back if he thinks his team is rebuilding. And then there's that guy luck. Peyton doesnt want to have to deal with any situations that may arise because the colts want to try out their new and future toy.

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Peyton doesnt want to have to deal with any situations that may arise because the colts want to try out their new and future toy.

Yes, anything that would make him expendable would not be welcomed.

And we experienced first hand, what the consequences of that was last season.

The team cannot abide by the whim of any of its players. The team needs to make decisions based on the team's best interests.

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Could it be the Colts don't care where Peyton is health wise because they are ready to go in a new direction at QB.

In that case, I believe he'd have been cut by now....

If the decision has been made..there's no negotiating and there's no need to watch workouts.

that why signs suggest he'll be back...

Its being worked out....

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In that case, I believe he'd have been cut by now....

If the decision has been made..there's no negotiating and there's no need to watch workouts.

that why signs suggest he'll be back...

Its being worked out....

Mark, have you considered that what has been said is merely PR and for the sake of fans such as you?

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I think it's more than just the money. Peyton wants to play for a team that wants to win now. The colts are sending out signals that they are fully committed to rebuilding. Why would Peyton want to come back if he thinks his team is rebuilding. And then there's that guy luck. Peyton doesnt want to have to deal with any situations that may arise because the colts want to try out their new and future toy.

What state where the Colts in 2 years ago? Or 3 when they where in the SB? The team wasnt any more talented then it is today, thats for sure. So if they are rebuilding, in theory they are getting better. Peyton as already shown us that he can make a horrible team a legit contender. Why are people trying to get rid of him because of this "rebuilding" phase? Manning turns that rebuilding into contender just by walking onto the field. Why not rebuild and have a few years of mediocrity when we can rebuild and have a chance to win the SB.

To answer the question I think they are just waiting till last minute. Give Manning the greatest amount of time possible. Whats the rush? They have till march 8th to make the decision. Im sure it will be made on the 7th at 11:55pm. Worry about the other issues for now, revisit this in a week.

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Who knows when they work him out... Perhaps never. If Peyton is not cleared by the doctors by March 8th to capably practice, he will not hold a practice session. It's as simple as that. When will the Colts work him out? When he is medically able to do so. And by the lingo we've been hearing from Irsay, Grigson, and company, he's not cleared yet. So no practice yet. Once Peyton is cleared, he'll practice.

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:sigh: 13 more days until March 8.

I keep expecting a knock at my door and a guy in a frog mask with a baseball bat and a grudge. I have to admit, you've been a real sport about my stupid sense of humor.

Yes, March 8th cannot come quickly enough. It's a good thing we aren't all locked in a room with each other. Come to think of it, that would've made a great reality TV show. Housing the Luck and Manning camps in a house together. What would be a good name for this show?

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I keep expecting a knock at my door and a guy in a frog mask with a baseball bat and a grudge. I have to admit, you've been a real sport about my stupid sense of humor.

Yes, March 8th cannot come quickly enough. It's a good thing we aren't all locked in a room with each other. Come to think of it, that would've made a great reality TV show. Housing the Luck and Manning camps in a house together. What would be a good name for this show?

Home Is Where The Hate Is...

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In that case, I believe he'd have been cut by now....

If the decision has been made..there's no negotiating and there's no need to watch workouts.

that why signs suggest he'll be back...

Its being worked out....

Why cut him before u have to and have a PR nightmare.

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