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I may have to settle for my 1 Championship. I guess it's better than none. Cubs still will be Good but our Pitching staff is questionable. Lose Chap, then lose Jake, and Lester looked iffy last season.

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3 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

I would've gave Jake 6 years if the Cubs were going to do this. I agree.

As with any signing only time tells the whole story . I have never really sensed the competitive fire and grit in him. He will have to prove me wrong.

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Just now, 2006Coltsbestever said:

I may have to settle for my 1 Championship. I guess it's better than none. Cubs still will be Good but our Pitching staff is questionable. Lose Chap, then lose Jake, and Lester looked iffy last season.

Lester will have to be the stopper .

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28 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

I would've gave Jake 6 years if the Cubs were going to do this. I agree.

Moves like that is one easing the Cubs spent 100 Years as the Laughing Stock of the MLB

 

 

  As I have said we must look forward not back

 

  IMO 

   JA tuned down the Cubs and my fandom

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53 minutes ago, oldunclemark said:

Good thing you weren't alive in 1969....to me, winning in 2016 didn't make that go away

The only thing that would’ve made 69 palpable was that it was a Gil Hodges lead team that did the damage

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31 minutes ago, PrincetonTiger said:

  

Moves like that is one easing the Cubs spent 100 Years as the Laughing Stock of the MLB

 

 

  As I have said we must look forward not back

 

  IMO 

   JA tuned down the Cubs and my fandom

He's better than Yu, how ya figure? Jay agrees with me.

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3 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

He's better than Yu, how ya figure? Jay agrees with me.

The JA train has left the station and for me I am a fan of the 2018 Cubs said nothing about talent 

 

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4 minutes ago, PrincetonTiger said:

The JA train has left the station and for me I am a fan of the 2018 Cubs said nothing about talent 

 

I am a fan of the organization and have been since the 84 season. All I am doing is, stating we made a mistake here. I am all about 2018 now as well and Jake would've gave us a better chance to win in 2018 IMO. I am Posting my opinion regarding 2018, not 2016 or 1969. I hope YU proves me wrong but I doubt it. Just like I said we wouldn't Repeat when we lost Chap, you were happy Chap left - where did that get us? It got us a weak BullPen and a Loss in the NLCS.

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8 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

I am a fan of the organization and have been since the 84 season. All I am doing is, stating we made a mistake here. I am all about 2018 now as well and Jake would've gave us a better chance to win in 2018 IMO. I am Posting my opinion regarding 2018, not 2016 or 1969. I hope YU proves me wrong but I doubt it. Just like I said we wouldn't Repeat when we lost Chap, you were happy Chap left - where did that get us? It got us a weak BullPen and a Loss in the NLCS.

Find Your Happy Place because Everything Will Be Okay 

  JA made a decision to leave Chicago and unless you are the Amazing Criswell, no one knows what will happen with the signing

 

 

 Since I grew up around and in the world of HS Sports I learned the fact that eras nd the hard way

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11 hours ago, PrincetonTiger said:

Find Your Happy Place because Everything Will Be Okay 

  JA made a decision to leave Chicago and unless you are the Amazing Criswell, no one knows what will happen with the signing

 

 

 Since I grew up around and in the world of HS Sports I learned the fact that eras nd the hard way

They don't need to end in the Pro's for a long time, that is the thing. This isn't HighSchool or College. We win the WS then get rid of Great players like Fowler, Chap, and now Jake. Makes no sense but it is what it is. If we would've offered Jake 6 years for 150 Mill he wouldn't of went anywhere.

 

-If anyone thinks Yu Darvish is a better Pitcher than Jake, you are wrong, sorry. Now I just found my happy place and done with this - time to move on. Go Cubs!

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2 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

They don't need to end in the Pro's, that is the thing. This isn't HighSchool or College. We win the WS then get rid of Great players like Fowler, Chap, and now Jake. Makes no sense but it is what it is. If we would've offered Jake 6 years for 150 Mill he wouldn't of went anywhere.

You didn’t get what I said

 

  in the High School World every year the teams must be rebuilt

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1 minute ago, PrincetonTiger said:

You didn’t get what I said

 

  in the High School World every year the teams must be rebuilt

I did get it, in the Pro's you do not have to do that was my point is what I am saying. Why would we sign Yu Darvish instead of Jake Arrieta? Let me ask you that. We never offered Jake 6/150 so I am not buying Jake was leaving automatically, he wanted more years on his contract is why we couldn't come to an agreement with him. If we were willing to give Yu 6 years, then why not Jake? I just don't understand it. It is what it is and time to move on because nothing any Cubs fan can say about it now.

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1 minute ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

I did get it, in the Pro's you do not have to do that was my point is what I am saying. Why would we sign Yu Darvish instead of Jake Arrieta? Let me ask you that. We never offered Jake 6/150 so I am not buying Jake was leaving automatically, he wanted more years on his contract is why we couldn't come to an agreement with him. If we were willing to give Yu 6 years, then why not Jake? I just don't understand it. It is what it is and time to move on because nothing any Cubs fan can say about it now.

Jake wanted something different and is no longer a Cub

 

  IMO

  Jake chose to wait and lost 

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Just now, PrincetonTiger said:

Jake wanted something different and is no longer a Cub

 

  IMO

  Jake chose to wait and lost 

Yep time to move on, I stated how I feel about it and you have too. I wish the Cubs the best in 2018 and hope Yu dominates. That is all I can say at this point.

 

-Regarding your point,  you are used to seeing change every year in HIghSchool sports so I completely get it. Normally in the Pro's, most FO's re-sign their best players for years. Thank God we had the sense to re-sign Bryant to a long deal.

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14 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Yep time to move on, I stated how I feel about it and you have too. I wish the Cubs the best in 2018 and hope Yu dominates. That is all I can say at this point.

 

-Regarding your point,  you are used to seeing change every year in HIghSchool sports so I completely get it. Normally in the Pro's, most FO's re-sign their best players for years. Thank God we had the sense to re-sign Bryant to a long deal.

 

PT seems to support only those who are still on the team. I am a bit more like you. I like to keep our best players. I like continuity. 

 

On another note, I see we have another baseball fan. He is new to the board and is a Yankees fan. PT already reached out to him. Let's all welcome him. :thmup:

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34 minutes ago, NFLfan said:

 

PT seems to support only those who are still on the team. I am a bit more like you. I like to keep our best players. I like continuity. 

 

On another note, I see we have another baseball fan. He is new to the board and is a Yankees fan. PT already reached out to him. Let's all welcome him. :thmup:

I am not a big fan of guys who leave as FAs especially those who turned down contracts

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34 minutes ago, PrincetonTiger said:

I am not a big fan of guys who leave as FAs especially those who turned down contracts

Yeah well we never offered Jake what we offered Yu, so don't blame Jake blame our FO. If we gave Jake Yu's offer I am pretty sure Jake stays. Oh well it's water under the bridge now. Yu is a Cub, Jake isn't. I got news for Yu he better be better than Jake for what we are paying him otherwise Cubs fans will pile on him. We just signed a guy that isn't proven in the Playoffs. Jake was 2-0 in the WS vs the Indians and has clinched games vs the Pirates and Cards over the last 3 years in the Playoffs. Jake is a Playoff warrior. I expect 20-6 with an era of below 3 with the money we are paying Yu otherwise it's a fail. I expect to be back in the WS, If he does that I will say it was worth it then.

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Just now, jshipp23 said:

Any chance Yankees pursue Arrietta?

Yep and that is another reason why I am not happy. Yankees get him you might as well hand them the trophy.

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Just now, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Yep and that is another reason why I am not happy. Yankees get him you might as well hand them the trophy.

Im and Yankees and Giants fan..If Yankees pull that off it'll be the most excited I've been about baseball in a long time..

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Just now, 2006Coltsbestever said:

I also fear he may go to the Cards, that happens the Cards would be the favorite to win the Division.

I hate the Cardinals as much as I do the Patriots..lol

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Just now, jshipp23 said:

Im and Yankees and Giants fan..If Yankees pull that off it'll be the most excited I've been about baseball in a long time..

Thanks for the Chapman rental in 2016. He was huge, so glad the Cubs finally won the WS. I have been Cubs fan since 1984 and finally it happened lmao. I am huge fan of Chapman.

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1 minute ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Thanks for the Chapman rental in 2016. He was huge, so glad the Cubs finally won the WS. I have been Cubs fan since 1984 and finally it happened lmao. I am huge fan of Chapman.

Yeah, I was happy for Cubs if my teams couldn't do it, I'm glad they did..

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3 minutes ago, jshipp23 said:

I hate the Cardinals as much as I do the Patriots..lol

The guy that created this Thread is Jay - very cool guy, he is a Cards fan so I take it easy on him about the Cards haha. He is actually a cool Cards fan, he doesn't hate the Cubs, most Cards fans do. This a Great Baseball Thread, if you like the Yankees you may have bragging rights this season. They looked great last season.

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3 minutes ago, PrincetonTiger said:

@2006Coltsbestever

 Have Faith because Everything Will Be Okay 

   

I am ok, I just have to move on and hope Yu delivers. Cubs have made 3 straight NLCS and won a WS so I still have a lot to be happy about. I waited 32 years for a Championship after the Cubs blew it in 1984 so that is true misery lmao 

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1 minute ago, PrincetonTiger said:

@jshipp23

  I grew up a Yankee fan but that stopped in the mid 90s

 

  

That's when it started for me...As a kid Darryl Strawberry was my favorite player..Sweetest swing ever..If not for his personal problems he could have been an all time great..

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Just now, jshipp23 said:

That's when it started for me...As a kid Darryl Strawberry was my favorite player..Sweetest swing ever..If not for his personal problems he could have been an all time great..

Grew up and live near Evansville, Indiana(Home of Don Mattingly)

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Top 5 favorite players..Strawberry, Bonds, Clemons, Randy Johnson, and Lincecomb in that order..

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3 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

I am ok, I just have to move on and hope Yu delivers. Cubs have made 3 straight NLCS and won a WS so I still have a lot to be happy about. I waited 32 years for a Championship after the Cubs blew it in 1984 so that is true misery lmao 

Baseball is an afterthought for me

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Just now, PrincetonTiger said:

Grew up and live near Evansville, Indiana(Home of Don Mattingly)

Yankees should have hired Mattingly as manager a long time ago..

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Just now, PrincetonTiger said:

Grew up and live near Evansville, Indiana(Home of Don Mattingly)

Mattingly was an awesome player no doubt. Yankees have had so many Great players I have lost count.

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3 minutes ago, NFLfan said:

Love the Baseball convo. Welcome, JShipp23.

Yeah well it took me all night to get over the fact Jake is gone but that is Baseball and time to move on. I never once thought we wouldn't re-sign him and he is my favorite Cubs Pitcher of all-time so yes I was upset last night. I am better today.

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1 minute ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Yeah well it took me all night to get over the fact Jake is gone but that is Baseball and time to move on. I never once thought we wouldn't re-sign him and he is my favorite Cubs Pitcher of all-time so yes I was upset last night. I am better today.

I really like Arrietta, he is the real deal..I think all the pressure he dealt with for Cubs makes him perfect fit for Yankees...A lot of great players can't handle the New York spotlight..

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1 minute ago, PrincetonTiger said:

@jshipp23

I live in a hotbed of MLB talent

    Don Liddle     

    Gil Hodges

    Don Mattingly     

    Edd Rousch

    Jerad Eickhoff

    Scott Rolen 

Rolen was a monster..

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