2016-2017 Indiana Pacers season (and the rest of the NBA)

[oldunclemark]

Great comeback....Pacers up 114-109   :30 left

[oldunclemark]

PG just made the play of the year.

 

..snatched a rebound away from 2 people  and dunked it down over 2 others

[2006Coltsbestever]

2 minutes ago, Bluefire4 said:

PG is doing his thing on both sides. This is what a star does.

Yes he is taking over, this may be the best all-around game he's played all season because he is playing Great Defense as well as scoring 35 Points. Making huge baskets in the 4th Qtr!

[RockThatBlue]

Unbelievable play by PG.

[RockThatBlue]

PGs ankle must be much better. Hes looked good all night.

[Bluefire4]

This team is very inconsistent but at  least they have shown the ability to beat good teams and overcome deficits so far. We just need to go on a little run and get some momentum.

[oldunclemark]

   held Portland to 40 in the second half....down 20 and won 118-111

.............and guess what...we're back at .500 again

 

 

we're a hard team to explain

[Bluefire4]

PG may be player of the game but Thad Young was the reason we got back in it.

[2006Coltsbestever]

See what a little Defense and Hustle does! We held them to 13 points in the 4th Qtr and PG played like a SuperStar down the stretch. I hope this win can kick start something good because we are now 24 games in and still sit at .500 12-12.

[oldunclemark]

PG with 37..Thad Young with 24...

 

next up.....lets try consecutive wins

[oldunclemark]

     Lost to the Macs and beat Portland..

I have the same thought...we play like a bunch of strangers....largely because we are..

So many of our players are playing with each other for the first time..and I just don't know how long it will take to play together defensively...it could take 50-60 games

[RockThatBlue]

3 hours ago, Bluefire4 said:

PG may be player of the game but Thad Young was the reason we got back in it.

Yup, Thad came up huge. He scored and rebounded the ball very well tonight. 

[Bluefire4]

I wonder if Kemba plays Monday after the knee injury he had tonight. He got up fine and said he doesn't expect to miss time but this could be an advantage to string some wins together starting with the Hornets.

[RockThatBlue]

27 minutes ago, Bluefire4 said:

I wonder if Kemba plays Monday after the knee injury he had tonight. He got up fine and said he doesn't expect to miss time but this could be an advantage to string some wins together starting with the Hornets.

He should rest  

[RockThatBlue]

Very impressive.

 

 

 

[21isSuperman]

On 2016-12-09 at 4:34 PM, RockThatBlue said:

Probably nonsense, but a rumor floating around that the Pistons will trade for PG.

 

https://www.google.com/amp/detroit.cbslocal.com/2016/12/09/pistons-trade-rumor-could-paul-george-be-coming-to-the-pistons/amp/

Larry Bird has said he wants to sign PG to a contract extension as soon as possible, so I don't buy any of the trade rumours surrounding PG.

 

On 2016-12-08 at 1:52 PM, RockThatBlue said:

Pacers are a weird team. Play terrible one game, play good the next. Not sure I have a feel for this yeam yet.

I don't watch many Pacers games, but from what I've read, the team seems to play better when Ellis isn't on the floor.  Any truth to that?

[BrentMc11]

On 12/10/2016 at 8:27 PM, RockThatBlue said:

I agree. Hope you're doing well Brent.

Thank you.  Feeling great missing my pool...  :)  

 

 

 

[Bluefire4]

On December 11, 2016 at 0:55 PM, 21isSuperman said:

Larry Bird has said he wants to sign PG to a contract extension as soon as possible, so I don't buy any of the trade rumours surrounding PG.

 

I don't watch many Pacers games, but from what I've read, the team seems to play better when Ellis isn't on the floor.  Any truth to that?

I don't think the team plays better when Ellis is off the floor. In fact he was a good part of the reason they came back against the Trail Blazers as he attacked the rim and got to the foul line many times. 

 

That is his game. Not being a facilitator. I would still like either CJ Miles or GR3 to start at shooting guard but that is only because of defense. I don't want Klay scoring 60 points again.

[Bluefire4]

Very nice win tonight. We have a favorable piece of our schedule coming up with beatable teams... time to go on a run.

[oldunclemark]

Myles Turner shooting well from outside..

 

....consecutive wins....above....500

[Bluefire4]

I hope Stuckey is okay. We're already without Ellis for at least this week.

[Gavin]

Glad to get this win. Turner and PG are the 2 stars of this team going forward clearly. Like to see Turner get more aggressive on the boards. Glenn Robinson is not the starter at SG we need going forward.....you were told you were going to start the next 3-4 games do to Ellis injury and you come out and play 33 minutes and take a total of 2 shots

[Bluefire4]

3 minutes ago, Gavin said:

Glad to get this win. Turner and PG are the 2 stars of this team going forward clearly. Like to see Turner get more aggressive on the boards. Glenn Robinson is not the starter at SG we need going forward.....you were told you were going to start the next 3-4 games do to Ellis injury and you come out and play 33 minutes and take a total of 2 shots

GR3 doesn't need to take shots every game. You saw what happened today. He made a much bigger impact defensively than Ellis ever did for this team.

[RockThatBlue]

Teague did a great job on Kemba. Kemba usually kills us.

[Gavin]

2 minutes ago, Bluefire4 said:

GR3 doesn't need to take shots every game. You saw what happened today. He made a much bigger impact defensively than Ellis ever did for this team.

Perhaps but he just isn't going to have that same impact defensively against better SG's . If he plays that many minutes he's going to have prove he can score on average in the low teens in my opinion. I mean we are going to need him to be that 3rd star that the great teams have in my opinion because we know what we will get from Turner and PG almost every night but not everybody else

[Bluefire4]

2 minutes ago, Gavin said:

Perhaps but he just isn't going to have that same impact defensively against better SG's . If he plays that many minutes he's going to have prove he can score on average in the low teens in my opinion. I mean we are going to need him to be that 3rd star that the great teams have in my opinion because we know what we will get from Turner and PG almost every night but not everybody else

He definitely doesn't need to be the 3rd star. He was a guy that wasn't even expected to get minutes at the start of the season. The third star role will fall on either Teague or Thad Young for the time being.

 

Robinson just needs to play his role and I think he can play better defense than Ellis on anybody. He plays hard and with energy. He's not going to allow Klay Thompson to score 60 points I can tell you that.

 

 

[Bluefire4]

8 minutes ago, RockThatBlue said:

Teague did a great job on Kemba. Kemba usually kills us.

It was some Teague but mostly great coaching in bringing the bigs up to help. Teague kept him from getting easy threes and Myles Turner was usually there to stop him from having easy drives to the basket.

[Gavin]

1 minute ago, Bluefire4 said:

He definitely doesn't need to be the 3rd star. He was a guy that wasn't even expected to get minutes at the start of the season. The third star role will fall on either Teague or Thad Young for the time being.

 

Robinson just needs to play his role and I think he can play better defense than Ellis on anybody. He plays hard and with energy. He's not going to allow Klay Thompson to score 60 points I can tell you that.

 

 

You might be right. Maybe we can pull off getting that 3rd star in the draft. We have a young nucleus for the future. If we do this right and a chip or two fal in our favor we find that 3rd star in the draft  but I think long term SG will need to be upgraded barring improvement from Robinson which could happen. Robinson should be able to disrupt SG's defensively with his size and length on a fairly regular basis. Still I'd love to get another SG in the draft or kick the tires on Lance once he is healthy off of his injury

 

I just think this team is 1-3 moves from being a title contender

 

1.SG

2.Another rebounder

3.A 2nd true PG behind Teague. Stuckey, Brooks, Monta, Young are all undersized SG's who don't really possess that ability to have great court vision and able to run the offense. We need one of them don't get me wrong but I think we would benefit better from a pass first PG

[Gavin]

1 minute ago, Gavin said:

You might be right. Maybe we can pull off getting that 3rd star in the draft. We have a young nucleus for the future. If we do this right and a chip or two fal in our favor we find that 3rd star in the draft  but I think long term SG will need to be upgraded barring improvement from Robinson which could happen. Robinson should be able to disrupt SG's defensively with his size and length on a fairly regular basis. Still I'd love to get another SG in the draft or kick the tires on Lance once he is healthy off of his injury. Now I don't think that's going to happen of course but its just hard for me to ignore a player that once put up 5 triple doubles in 1 season and has his court vision though he was inconsistent and lacked aggressiveness night in and night out

 

I just think this team is 1-3 moves from being a title contender

 

1.SG

2.Another rebounder

3.A 2nd true PG behind Teague. Stuckey, Brooks, Monta, Young are all undersized SG's who don't really possess that ability to have great court vision and able to run the offense. We need one of them don't get me wrong but I think we would benefit better from a pass first PG

 

[Bluefire4]

1 hour ago, Gavin said:

You might be right. Maybe we can pull off getting that 3rd star in the draft. We have a young nucleus for the future. If we do this right and a chip or two fal in our favor we find that 3rd star in the draft  but I think long term SG will need to be upgraded barring improvement from Robinson which could happen. Robinson should be able to disrupt SG's defensively with his size and length on a fairly regular basis. Still I'd love to get another SG in the draft or kick the tires on Lance once he is healthy off of his injury

 

I just think this team is 1-3 moves from being a title contender

 

1.SG

2.Another rebounder

3.A 2nd true PG behind Teague. Stuckey, Brooks, Monta, Young are all undersized SG's who don't really possess that ability to have great court vision and able to run the offense. We need one of them don't get me wrong but I think we would benefit better from a pass first PG

Agree on everything expect the Lance part.

[RockThatBlue]

should pacers keep monta on the bench when he returns?

[Bluefire4]

7 minutes ago, RockThatBlue said:

should pacers keep monta on the bench when he returns?

The only thing that concerns me is the size on the bench. If GR3 starts than we'd have Brooks, Stuckey, and Ellis all coming off the bench. 3 smaller guards being in at the same time kind of worries me. If they experiment with lineups well than I think it will benefit this team but we will see.

[Gavin]

5 hours ago, RockThatBlue said:

should pacers keep monta on the bench when he returns?

No

[21isSuperman]

From Mario Hezonja's Roto page:

Quote

ESPN's Marc Stein adds the Magic are "openly seeking a scoring boost via trade" could wind up dealing Hezonja. The No. 5 pick in the draft has been out of the rotation with guys like Damian Rudez ahead of him on the depth chart. A trade would obviously help Mario a ton

 

Seeking a scoring boost via trade and Hezonja (6'8", 218 lbs) isn't fitting well there.  Could be a good trade partner for Monta Ellis?  They get scoring, we get some size and length.  Hezonja + Jodie Meeks for Ellis?

[Gavin]

I meant yes Robinson should be starting at SG. Monta off the bench. We need the size

[Gavin]

Pretty much everyone not shooting well for the Pacers except CJ Miles. Nobody wants to rebound

[oldunclemark]

1 hour ago, Gavin said:

I meant yes Robinson should be starting at SG. Monta off the bench. We need the size

WE both said this a long time ago but then what do you do with Stuckey?

[oldunclemark]

 PLaying a solid game here70-75 Pacers late 3rd

[Gavin]

3 minutes ago, oldunclemark said:

WE both said this a long time ago but then what do you do with Stuckey?

Stuckey becomes the backup PG behind Teague. Ellis the backup SG behind Robinson. No matter what we do backup PG leaves a lot to be desired as does starting SG currently.

[Bluefire4]

Hassan Whiteside is killing us. It looks like Myles Turner is fighting for offensive rebounds on defense. Whiteside is always in front of him.