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Gary Barnridge signed an extension with the Browns today for 3 years and roughly $12 million. He is having a really nice season with 60 catches for 817 yards and 7 touchdowns. 

I bring this up since Fleener and Dwayne Allen are free agents at the end of the season, and I imagine this deal could have implications for them. Needless to say neither is putting up the kind of numbers Barnridge has this season. 

I like Fleener and Allen. Perhaps we will be able to sign them both to reasonable contracts after the season. 

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2597768-gary-barnidge-browns-agree-to-new-contract-details-comments-and-reaction 

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Allen may not get a good contract offer,  but that's due to injuries and, as has been noted here on the website,  Chud has asked him to block more and be a receiver less.    In other words, our tackles need help blocking.

But, if we don't make him a respectable offer,  he likely will show up in Arizona.    Made no mistake,  Allen will get a decent offer from some NFL team.     Personally,  I hope we keep him.

As for Fleener,  he's on his way to his 3rd straight season of 50 catches or more....   But on this website,  many of the fans think he's not worth much.     (smh)

I think we'll find a way to keep him.    Whether the fan base agrees with the contract or not,  I think the Colts will want to keep him.

I'm fine with bringing them both back.

 

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I think it will be up to the next Coach and GM on what happens, and I think the next coach is going to be an

offensive minded. I would love Adam Gase, or Todd Haley. The only problem with Haley is he seems to rub

people the wrong way, but his offensive system, once players buy in to it work. Both of these guys and others

I have not thought about are going to be imho, guys who want Luck to throw short to set up the long play. It

saves wear and tear on his body, plus it does not make him feel like he needs to make the big play all the time

and feel like he needs to put the team on his shoulder. I think he would prosper under a system like Haley's or

Gase. Gase has made Cutler look good! He would be my first choice. If I could have anyone though, I would love to pry Sean Payton from the Saints. I am sure it would cost a draft pick, plus he makes 8M a year, but with him and Luck, it would be a fantastic match, and I can dream. Also, with Brees scheduled to make 36 M in cap space next year, I believe they are going to go in rebuild mode, and Brees is going to be traded. Payton might be open to moving? One other name, Ben McAdoo. In two years he has made Eli, who like Luck has a problem with turning the ball over at times, has made him an efficient

machine. Beckham has helped a lot, but we have plenty of receiver talent.

 

Oh and the main reason I actually posted on this topic, any of these coaches would want both Fleener and Allen back I believe. Short to set up the long. Both fit the bill, and I don't think they will be as expensive now due to the years they have had. Hard to find TE's the QB trusts. If Allen does go, we will get a 4th to 5th round comp out of it, and same for Fleener I believe. I really want to keep Fleener though. I think with the right coach, he could be deadly. Look what Payton did with Graham.

 

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On 12/11/2015 at 8:22 PM, NewColtsFan said:

Allen may not get a good contract offer,  but that's due to injuries and, as has been noted here on the website,  Chud has asked him to block more and be a receiver less.    In other words, our tackles need help blocking.

But, if we don't make him a respectable offer,  he likely will show up in Arizona.    Made no mistake,  Allen will get a decent offer from some NFL team.     Personally,  I hope we keep him.

As for Fleener,  he's on his way to his 3rd straight season of 50 catches or more....   But on this website,  many of the fans think he's not worth much.     (smh)

I think we'll find a way to keep him.    Whether the fan base agrees with the contract or not,  I think the Colts will want to keep him.

I'm fine with bringing them both back.

 

The piece of the puzzle that has to be considered before we re-sign either or both is...what is our offensive identity, and what personnel will we put on the field most frequently to create the mismatches we want.

 

With Hilton, Moncrief and Dorsett in the fold, we are going to be most difficult to defend in 11 personnel.  I don't think it will make sense to re-sign both TE's to second contracts unless we plan to use them both as primary weapons.

 

For 11 personnel, Allen is a much better fit to my liking.  I do like Fleener a lot - but I think I'd take the offense in a different direction if it were up to me. 

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I think Fleener is under used. This season has not been a good year for any of the receivers including the TEs. Why a lot seem to think that Allen is a better TE I don't quite understand. Allen has had quite a few drops on easy catches when the ball is throw his way. IMO Fleener will be resigned and Allen is a toss up.

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4 hours ago, Defjamz26 said:

Fleener is worth 2-3.5 million at most. Wouldn't pay him a dime more. He's a solid player, but he's not a special player.

 

Solid players make a lot more than 2-3.5 Mill.

 

Here, from Spotrac,  which is free, by the way,  is a list of ALL the tight ends and what they make, including broken down by average.     Fleecer is going to make more than you're offering.    And I suspect it's going to be an offer from the Colts that keeps him and makes you unhappy.

 

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/contracts/tight-end/

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1 hour ago, NewColtsFan said:

 

Solid players make a lot more than 2-3.5 Mill.

 

Here, from Spotrac,  which is free, by the way,  is a list of ALL the tight ends and what they make, including broken down by average.     Fleecer is going to make more than you're offering.    And I suspect it's going to be an offer from the Colts that keeps him and makes you unhappy.

 

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/contracts/tight-end/

 

Nice freudian slip with "Fleecer". If he makes more than $2M he would be be fleecing us. 

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1 hour ago, Dustin said:

 

Nice freudian slip with "Fleecer". If he makes more than $2M he would be be fleecing us. 

 

Ha!

 

Cute.....    I have a new computer,  and I think the auto-correct is just a little too sensitive!

 

I think he's going to be fleecing the Colts next year.     I don't see us not bringing him back.

 

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