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They win so thats good. Do people think St. Louis would even take Luck because of Bradford. They owe him a lot of money don't they?

But Bradford isn't getting paid as much as Manning is. We're apparently going to take Luck, however. Besides, Bradford has been far worse this year than he was his rookie year, yet fans around here think the Rams will keep him. The Browns will dump McCoy, despite this being his first full-year starting, suffering a concussion, and having no weapons around him, but the Rams will definitely keep Bradford.

/sarcasm

If Luck is as good as people pretend him to be, then even the Rams would be stupid to pass on him. At the very least, they will hold us hostage for the pick.

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No way STL picks Luck....they have Bradford and MANY holes to fill.

IF they get the #1 pick, I would expect a trade.....but Kahlil would be a perfect piece to Start with. So if they trade, I wouldnt think they would want to go to far down in RND #1.

So the question would be....IF we have the 2nd pick, would we be interested in trading up?

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But Bradford isn't getting paid as much as Manning is. We're apparently going to take Luck, however. Besides, Bradford has been far worse this year than he was his rookie year, yet fans around here think the Rams will keep him. The Browns will dump McCoy, despite this being his first full-year starting, suffering a concussion, and having no weapons around him, but the Rams will definitely keep Bradford.

/sarcasm

If Luck is as good as people pretend him to be, then even the Rams would be stupid to pass on him. At the very least, they will hold us hostage for the pick.

Why do you come into every thread and talk about luck..... get over it dude.

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But Bradford isn't getting paid as much as Manning is. We're apparently going to take Luck, however. Besides, Bradford has been far worse this year than he was his rookie year, yet fans around here think the Rams will keep him. The Browns will dump McCoy, despite this being his first full-year starting, suffering a concussion, and having no weapons around him, but the Rams will definitely keep Bradford.

/sarcasm

If Luck is as good as people pretend him to be, then even the Rams would be stupid to pass on him. At the very least, they will hold us hostage for the pick.

But they do not pay Peyton that money if he is not good to go health wise, that date in March. So there are lots of variables for the Colts by then.

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Posted · Hidden by Peytongirl, December 26, 2011 - personal shot
Hidden by Peytongirl, December 26, 2011 - personal shot

But Bradford isn't getting paid as much as Manning is. We're apparently going to take Luck, however. Besides, Bradford has been far worse this year than he was his rookie year, yet fans around here think the Rams will keep him. The Browns will dump McCoy, despite this being his first full-year starting, suffering a concussion, and having no weapons around him, but the Rams will definitely keep Bradford.

/sarcasm

If Luck is as good as people pretend him to be, then even the Rams would be stupid to pass on him. At the very least, they will hold us hostage for the pick.

Look, you made your own thread to preach over everyone else about how much of a better fan you are and how bad Andrew Luck is. You don't need to go into every thread to complain about the same thing. I hope someone gets you a chainsaw for Christmas so you can chop some length off of your horse's legs.

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No way STL picks Luck....they have Bradford and MANY holes to fill.

IF they get the #1 pick, I would expect a trade.....but Kahlil would be a perfect piece to Start with.  So if they trade, I wouldnt think they would want to go to far down in RND #1.

Really???... Guess with that logic no way Colts take Luck, we got Manning and even more holes. 

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Lets say we do win next week and get the 2nd pick to draft Matt Kalil.

Our OL looks like this:

LT - Matt Kalil

LG - Ben Ijalana

C - Jeff Saturday

RG - Ryan Diem

RT - Anthony Castonzo

With Peyton coming back, its really important we have a good offensive line to protect him.

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I know. Every post is pretty much him saying he doesn't like luck he's overrated

Didn't you know? He's the best scout around. All of those NFL scouts and analysts who have him listed as an amazing prospect are very wrong, this guy who owns a soapbox on an internet forum knows best.

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So.. we get either Luck or Kalil. I'd be happy with one of them.

od love kalil, Polian u never no, may take clairborne as we need a great DB, or he may pull another and take a DT, we could use one but b none are up there to deserve a top pick

Watch, he will take a RB

CBS BIG BOARD & barkley is # 2 so rest move up from #'s below

1. Andrew Luck, QB, Stanford*: Luck characterized himself as "absolutely" ready to play at the NFL level. I share his confidence. Forgot the questions about Luck's arm strength. While perhaps lacking a Matthew Stafford or Cam Newton rifle for an arm, Luck's anticipation and accuracy are as impressive as any quarterback I've ever scouted in 12 years in this business. Whether to the Colts or any other team, Luck will be the first pick of the 2012 draft.

2. Matt Barkley, QB, Southern California*: I'm not willing to agree with Washington head coach Steve Sarkisian that Barkley should be drafted higher than Luck, but I do believe the Trojans junior has narrowed the gap and is an elite prospect who would generate No. 1 overall consideration in most drafts.

3. Trent Richardson, RB, Alabama*: It is difficult to grade any running back as a top-five pick -- the value of the position simply doesn't warrant it. But Richardson might be the most physically gifted player in the country.

4. Matt Kalil, OT, USC*: Kalil isn't as fundamentally sound and consistent as scouts would like, but he has such great size, athleticism and balance that a top-five pick (and future Pro Bowls) would appear likely in his future should he choose to leave school.

5. Morris Claiborne, CB, LSU*: I argued that LSU cornerback Patrick Peterson was the top player in the 2011 draft. Shockingly, Claiborne has been even better this season than Peterson -- the fifth overall pick in '11 -- was last year. Claiborne was beaten on a few occasions early by Georgia in the SEC Championship Game, but went on to enjoy a strong game, including notching his sixth interception of the year.

6. Robert Griffin III, QB, Baylor*: Griffin's ascension continues. In accepting the Heisman Trophy he displayed yet another quality that will endear him to general managers and owners -- the charisma needed to be the face of an NFL franchise. Along with Griffin's remarkable combination of athleticism and accuracy on the deep ball, his rise up the board could push him past Barkley and even Luck as the elite prospect of the 2012 draft -- as "unbelievably believable" as that may sound.

7. Justin Blackmon, WR, Oklahoma State*: Blackmon ultimately won't get drafted this high due to concerns about his straight-line speed, but he's virtually unstoppable at this level and will prove to be No. 1 option in the NFL, as well.

8. David DeCastro, OG, Stanford*: In terms of consistent dominance, there hasn't been an offensive or defensive lineman I've graded higher this season than DeCastro. Only the fact that he plays guard might keep him out of the top half of the first round.

9. Michael Floyd, WR, Notre Dame: Big, physical and (like Blackmon) faster on the field than he will ever time off it, Floyd has the makings of a top-10 pick -- as long as he can convince teams he has the maturity to handle the pressure on and off the field that comes with such lofty expectations.

10. Devon Still, DT, Penn State: Still's talent has always been obvious, but until this season it lay under the surface. Just as Phil Taylor rode a dominant senior campaign into the first round, however, don't be surprised if Still is able to do the same -- especially if he can follow Taylor's lead and enjoy a stellar week at the Senior Bowl, as well.

11. Riley Reiff, OT, Iowa*: With NFL size (6-feet-6, 300 pounds), sound technique and better athleticism than former teammate Bryan Bulaga, Reiff is viewed by scouts as pro ready capable of helping immediately at either left or right tackle.

12. 'Dre Kirkpatrick, CB, Alabama*: Kirkpatrick's size, speed and physicality combination are rare for the cornerback position. He remains a bit raw in his technique, which is why Claiborne has leapt him on many draft boards.

13. Jonathan Martin, OT, Stanford*: Martin's size (6-6, 305 pounds) and athleticism are very intriguing -- especially in a zone-blocking offense. Scouts wonder, however, if he has the physicality to be successful in every scheme. What they don't have to wonder about are Martin's light feet and balance in pass protection. Some scouts grade Martin higher than either Kalil or Reiff.

14. Luke Kuechly, ILB, Boston College*: More decorated than a wedding cake, Kuechly was honored with the Lombardi, Nagurski and Lott Impact Trophy awards after leading the country in tackles for the second consecutive season. Manti Te'o's decision to return for his senior season at Notre Dame only increases Kuechly's stock. Kuechly isn't likely to be drafted in the top 15 but his game makes him a pick without great risk.

15. Quinton Coples, DE, North Carolina: When playing with passion, the 6-6, 285-pound Coples is arguably the elite defensive prospect in the country. Coples, who is lining up at defensive end this season after starring last year inside, hasn't been playing with the same intensity and thus is slipping. His raw talent, however, is undeniable and should generate top 10 consideration.

16. Kendall Wright, WR, Baylor: Griffin gets the hype, but the playmaking Wright is a legitimate first-round talent, himself. At 5-10 and 190 pounds, Wright is significantly smaller than many of the other top receivers in this draft, but he brings very good speed and open-field running skills. Some scouts compare Wright to Carolina Panthers star Steve Smith for their similar build and explosiveness.

For Rest

http://www.cbssports...rospect-for-now

Here is another

Revised December 23, 2011

Prior Revision December 15, 2011

Revised December 23, 2011

Prior Revision December 15, 2011

Drafttek.com's Big Board of 2012 top NFL draft prospects is compiled by our internal staff of talent evaluators. The NFL draft prospect rankings are adjusted regularly during the NCAA Football season. The Big Board also undergoes an adjustment process during post-season All-Star games, the NFL Combine workouts, and individual Campus workouts. Click HERE for explanation of our terminology.

Notes on Dec 15 Big Board Release:

1) Riley Reiff returns - We had previously not included Reiff in our mock drafts - he's been quoted as saying he plans to play out his entire college career. But a recent report in the Cedar Rapids Gazettehas Reiff walking that back to some degree ("No Clue").

2) Robert Griffin III ranking - our intel suggests that RG3 has been operating with a simplified playbook and has succeeded largely on athletic ability. Recent history is full of short-ish Heisman Trophy winning QB's who were unable to make the turn at the next level: Troy Smith, Danny Wuerffel, Jason White, Charlie Ward. RG3 may compare most to Andre Ware. That said, some of these guys are drafted highly and we've moved Griffin III up to reflect this.

http://www.drafttek....BigBoardPg1.asp

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Lets say we do win next week and get the 2nd pick to draft Matt Kalil.

Our OL looks like this:

LT - Matt Kalil

LG - Ben Ijalana

C - Jeff Saturday

RG - Ryan Diem

RT - Anthony Castonzo

With Peyton coming back, its really important we have a good offensive line to protect him.

That would be AMAZING!

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Hopefully they come out swinging and can beat SF and then it doesn't matter what we do, we get the pick no matter what.

ours and theirs are both 1 am games so going on simultaneosly, hope colts fight as hard as can, but Gabbert is crap,, NFL network during colt game already said jags have f given it up . no more fight in them, but who knows, new coach will have a few under g his belt and may come up with something, Want that # 1 pick, would of course prefer both Rams & colts win to get it than root for us to lose

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Cam has posted, arguably, the best statistical rookie year for a QB in NFL history. And many here, including myself, called him a bust waiting to happen.

I thought he was going to be a bust myself. He has proved me wrong and will be a special quarterback.

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Lets say we do win next week and get the 2nd pick to draft Matt Kalil.

Our OL looks like this:

LT - Matt Kalil

LG - Ben Ijalana

C - Jeff Saturday

RG - Ryan Diem

RT - Anthony Castonzo

With Peyton coming back, its really important we have a good offensive line to protect him.

Are people high on Ijalana? Do people like him?

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