Discussion thread - Colts forum mock draft rounds 1, 2 and 3

[chad72]

Thanks to Dustin, Nick Melillo, OffensivelyPC, Blackhawk, and Princeton Tiger for participating. Here are the results of the forum mock draft from rounds 1 through 3 for posters to discuss.

 

 

Round 1

1. Houston (2-14) - Jadeveon Clowney, DE, South Carolina
2. St. Louis - from Washington (3-13) - Greg Robinson, OT, Auburn
3. Jacksonville (4-12) - Teddy Bridgewater, QB, Louisville
4. Cleveland (4-12) - Sammy Watkins, WR, Clemson
5. Oakland (4-12) - Blake Bortles, QB, UCF
6. Atlanta (4-12) - Khalil Mack, LB, Buffalo
7. Tampa Bay (4-12) - Jake Matthews, OT, Texas A&M
8. Minnesota (5-10-1) - Johnny Manziel, QB, Texas A&M
9. Buffalo (6-10) - Anthony Barr, OLB, UCLA
10. Detroit (7-9) - Justin Gilbert, CB, Oklahoma State
11. Tennessee (7-9) - Darqueze Dennard, CB, Michigan State
12. New York Giants (7-9) - Taylor Lewan, OT, Michigan
13. St. Louis (7-9)- Mike Evans, WR, Texas A&M
14. Chicago (8-8) - Ha'sean Clinton-Dix, S, Alabama
15. Pittsburgh (8-8) - Brandin Cooks, WR, Oregon State
16. Dallas (8-8) - Aaron Donald, DT, Pitt
17. Baltimore (8-8) - Zach Martin, OT, Notre Dame
18. New York Jets (8-8) - Odell Beckham Jr., WR, LSU
19. Miami (8-8) - Eric Ebron, TE, UNC
20. Arizona (10-6) - Bradley Roby, CB, Ohio State
21. Green Bay* (8-7-1) - Calvin Pryor, S, Louisville 
22. Philadelphia* (10-6) - Jimmie Ward, S, Northern Illinois
23. Kansas City* (11-5) - Marqise Lee, WR, US 
24. Cincinnati* (11-5) - Stephen Tuitt, DE, Notre Dame
25. San Diego* (9-7) - Louis Nix III, DE, Notre Dame
26. Cleveland - from Indianapolis* (11-5) - CJ Mosely, LB, Alabama
27. New Orleans* (11-5) - Kyle Van Noy, OLB, BYU
28. Carolina* (12-4)  - Kelvin Benjamin, WR, FSU
29. New England* (12-4) - Timmy Jernigan, DT, FSU
30. San Francisco* (12-4) - Kyle Fuller, CB, VT
31. Denver* (13-3) - Kony Ealy, DE, Missouri
32. Seattle* (13-3)- Demarcus Lawrence, DE, Boise State

Round 2

1. Houston (2-14) - Rashede Hageman, DT, Minnesota
2. Washington (3-13) - Xavier Su'a-Filo, OG, UCLA
3. Cleveland (4-12) - Derek Carr, QB, Fresno State
4. Oakland (4-12) - Davante Adams, WR, Fresno State
5. Atlanta (4-12) - Marcus Roberson, CB, Florida
6. Tampa Bay (4-12) - Jordan Mathews, WR, Vanderbilt
7. Jacksonville (4-12) - Cyrus Kouandjio, OT, Alabama
8. Minnesota (5-10-1) - Gabe Jackson, OG, Mississippi State
9. Buffalo (6-10) - Morgan Moses, OT, Virginia
10. Tennessee (7-9) - Carlos Hyde, RB, Ohio State
11. New York Giants (7-9) - Scott Crichton, DE, Oregon State
12. St. Louis (7-9) - Ryan Shazier, OLB, Ohio State
13. Detroit (7-9) - Seantrel Henderson, OT, Miami
14. Pittsburgh (8-8) - Jason Verrett, CB, TCU
15. Dallas (8-8) - Dion Bailey, S, USC
16. Baltimore (8-8) - Deonne Buchannon, S, Washington State
17. New York Jets (8-8) - David Yankey, OG, Stanford
18. Miami (8-8) - Jeremy Hill, RB, LSU
19. Chicago (8-8) - LaMarcus Joyner, CB, Florida State
20. Arizona (10-6) - Stanley Jean-Baptiste, DB, Nebraska
21. Green Bay* (8-7-1) - Jace Amaro, TE, Texas Tech
22. Philadelphia* (10-6) - Dee Ford, OLB/DE, Auburn
23. Cincinnati* (11-5) - Rashaad Reynolds, CB, Oregon State
24. San Francisco - Kansas City* (11-5) - Marcus Martin, C, USC
25. San Diego* (9-7) - Jeremiah Attaochu, OLB, Georgia Tech
26. New Orleans* (11-5) - Allen Robinson, WR, Penn State
27. Indianapolis* (11-5) - Terrence Brooks, FS, Florida State
28. Carolina* (12-4) - Marqueston Huff, FS, Wyoming
29. San Francisco* (12-4) - Donte Moncrief, WR, Ole Miss
30. New England* (12-4) - Ego Ferguson, DT, LSU
31. Denver* (13-3) - Keith McGill, CB, Utah
32. Seattle* (13-3) - Martavis Bryant, WR, Clemson

 

Round 3

1. Houston (2-14) - Jimmy Garoppolo, QB, Eastern Illinois
2. Washington (3-13) - Dominique Easley, DT, Florida
3. Oakland (4-12) - Victor Hampton, CB, South Carolina
4. Atlanta (4-12) - Kelcy Quarles, DT, South Carolina
5. Tampa Bay (4-12) - Pierre Desir, CB, Lindenwood
6. Jacksonville (4-12) - Trevor Reilly, DE/OLB, Utah
7. Cleveland (4-12) - Ka'Deem Carey RB Arizona
8. Minnesota (5-10-1) - Marcus Smith, OLB, Louisville
9. Buffalo (6-10) - Troy Niklas, TE, Notre Dame
10. New York Giants (7-9) - Will Sutton, DT, Arizona State
11. St. Louis (7-9) - Brock Vereen, FS, Minnesota
12. Detroit (7-9) - Cody Latimer, WR, Indiana
13. San Francisco - from Tennessee (7-9) - Austin Seferian-Jenkins, TE, Washington
14. Dallas (8-8) - Jackson Jeffcoat, DE, Texas
15. Baltimore (8-8) - Craig Loston SS, LSU
16. New York Jets (8-8) - Louchiez Purifoy, CB, Florida
17. Miami (8-8) - Cyril Richardson, OG, Baylor
18. Chicago (8-8) - Daquan Jones, DT, Penn State
19. Cleveland - from Pittsburgh (8-8) - Brandon Thomas, OT, Clemson
20. Arizona (10-6) - Caraun Reid, DT, Princeton
21. Green Bay* (8-7-1) - Weston Richburg, C, Colorado State
22. Philadelphia* (10-6) - Paul Richardson, WR, Colorado
23. Kansas City* (11-5) - Preston Brown, ILB, Louisville
24. Cincinnati* (11-5) - Zach Mettenberger, QB, LSU
25. San Diego* (9-7) - Jaylen Watkins, CB, Florida
26. Indianapolis* (11-5) - Dakota Dozier, OG, Furman
27. New Orleans* (11-5) - Antonio Richardson, OT, Tennessee
28. Carolina* (12-4) - James Hurst OT North Carolina
29. New England* (12-4) - Kareem Martin, DE, North Carolina
30. San Francisco* (12-4) - Anthony Johnson, DT, LSU
31. Denver* (13-3) - Brandon Coleman, WR, Rutgers
32. Minnesota - from Seattle* (13-3) - Ed Reynolds, S, Stanford
33. Pittsburgh (compensatory) - Justin Ellis, NT, Louisiana Tech
34. Green Bay (compensatory) - Chris Borland, ILB, Wisconsin
35. Baltimore (compensatory) - Travis Swanson, C, Arkansas
36. San Francisco (compensatory) - Chris Boswell, K, Rice

 

• Pittsburgh -> Cleveland: 2013 4th-rounder
• Seattle -> Minnesota: Percy Harvin
• Tennesse -> San Francisco: 2013 2nd-rounder

 

[Track Guy]

I'd be pretty happy if we wound up with Brooks and Dozier.

[gacker65]

I liked the 2nd round choice of Terrence Brooks.  IMO, I do not believe we will draft O-line this draft, so I would have looked for a Defensive player in 3rd.

[PrincetonTiger]

I liked the 2nd round choice of Terrence Brooks.  IMO, I do not believe we will draft O-line this draft, so I would have looked for a Defensive player in 3rd.

I have a feeling we will

[Blackhawk4]

Amazed Ra'Shede Hageman wasn't taken in the 3rd round. 

[PrincetonTiger]

Amazed Ra'Shede Hageman wasn't taken in the 3rd round.

He was picked at the top of Round 2

[USAFHoosier]

Dozier has the physical potential just needs refinement.  Some believe he can play Guard or center in the NFL. He could be a good pickup.

[Blackhawk4]

He was picked at the top of Round 2

Whoops . Searched with the apostrophe in his name and it didn't come up 

[OffensivelyPC]

Thought it would be fun to list by team the drafted players.  I put each in order of when they were drafted, not necessarily by the round they were drafted in.

 

Arizona Cardinals

1. CB Bradley Roby
2. CB Stanley Jean-Baptiste
3. DT Caraun Reid

Atlanta Falcons

1. LB Khalil Mack
2. CB Marcus Roberson
3. DT Kelcy Quarles

Baltimore Ravens

1. OT Zach Martin
2. SS Deonne Buchannon
3. SS Craig Loston
4. C Travis Swanson

Buffalo Bills

1. LB Anthony Barr
2. OT Morgan Moses
3. TE Troy Niklas

Carolina Panthers

1. WR Kelvin Benjamin
2. FS Marqueston Huff
3. OT James Hurst

Chicago Bears

1. FS Ha’sean Clinton-Dix
2. CB LaMarcus Joyner
3. DT Daquan Jones

Cincinnati Bengals

1. DE Stephon Tuitt
2. CB Reshaad Reynolds
3. QB Zach Mettenberger

Cleveland Browns

1. WR Sammy Watkins
2. LB CJ Mosely
3. QB Derek Carr
4. RB Ka’Deem Carey
5. OT Brandon Thomas

Dallas Cowboys

1. DT Aaron Donald
2. FS Dion Baily
3. DE Jackson Jeffcoat

Denver Broncos

1. DE Kony Ealy
2. CB Keith McGill
3. WR Brandon Coleman

Detroit Lions

1. CB Justin Gilbert
2. OT Seantrel Henderson
3. WR Cody Latimer

Green Bay Packers

1. FS Calvin Pryor
2. TE Jace Amaro
3. C Weston Richburg
4. LB Chris Borland

Houston Texans

1. DE Jadevon Clowney
2. DT Ra’Shede Hageman
3. QB Jimmy Garoppolo

Indianapolis Colts          

1. FS Terrence Brooks
2. OG Dakota Dozier

Jacksonville Jaguars

1. QB Teddy Bridgewater
2. OT Cyrus Kouandjio
3. DE Trevo Reilly

Kansas City Chiefs

1. WR Marqise Lee
2. LB Preston Brown

Miami Dolphins

1. TE Eric Ebron
2. RB Jeremy Hill
3. OG Cyril Richardson

Minnesota Vikings

1. QB Johnny Manziel
2. OG Gabe Jackson
3. OLB Marcus Smith
4. FS Ed Reynolds

New England Patriots

1. DT Timmy Jernigan
2. DT Ego Ferguson
3. DE Kareem Martin

New Orleans Saints

1. LB Kyle Van Noy
2. WR Allen Robinson
3. OT Antonio Richardson

New York Giants

1. OT Taylor Lewan
2. DE Scott Chricton
3. DT Will Sutton

New York Jets

1. WR Odell Beckham Jr.
2. OG David Yankey
3. CB Louchiez Purifoy

Oakland Raiders

1. QB Blake Bortles
2. WR Davante Adams
3. CB Victor Hampton

Philadelphia Eagles

1. SS Jimmie Ward
2. DE Dee Ford
3. WR Paul Richardson

Pittsburgh Steelers

1. WR Brandin Cooks
2. CB Jason Verret
3. DT Justin Ellis

San Diego Chargers

1. DT Louis Nix III
2. OLB Jeremiah Attaochu
3. CB Jaylen Watkins

San Francisco 49ers

1. CB Kyle Fuller
2. C Marcus Martin
3. WR Donte Moncrief
4. TE Austin Seferian-Jenkins
5. DT Anthony Johnson
6. K Chris Boswell

Seattle Seahawks

1. DE Demarcus Lawrence
2. WR Martavis Bryant

St. Louis Rams

1. OT Greg Robinson
2. WR Mike Evans
3. OLB Ryan Shazier
4. FS Brock Vereen

Tampa Bay Buccaneers

1. OT Jake Matthews
2. WR Jordan Matthews
3. CB Pierre Desir

Tennessee Titans

1. CB Darqueze Dennard
2. RB Carlos Hyde

Washington Redskins

1. Xavier Su’a-Filo
2. DT Dominique Easley

[PrincetonTiger]

Thought it would be fun to list by team the drafted players.  I put each in order of when they were drafted, not necessarily by the round they were drafted in.

 

Arizona Cardinals

• CB Bradley Roby
• CB Stanley Jean-Baptiste
• DT Caraun Reid

Atlanta Falcons

• LB Khalil Mack
• CB Marcus Roberson
• DT Kelcy Quarles

Baltimore Ravens

• OT Zach Martin
• SS Deonne Buchannon
• SS Craig Loston
• C Travis Swanson

Buffalo Bills

• LB Anthony Barr
• OT Morgan Moses
• TE Troy Niklas

Carolina Panthers

• WR Kelvin Benjamin
• FS Marqueston Huff
• OT James Hurst

Chicago Bears

• FS Ha’sean Clinton-Dix
• CB LaMarcus Joyner
• DT Daquan Jones

Cincinnati Bengals

• DE Stephon Tuitt
• CB Reshaad Reynolds
• QB Zach Mettenberger

Cleveland Browns

• WR Sammy Watkins
• LB CJ Mosely
• QB Derek Carr
• RB Ka’Deem Carey
• OT Brandon Thomas

Dallas Cowboys

• DT Aaron Donald
• FS Dion Baily
• DE Jackson Jeffcoat

Denver Broncos

• DE Kony Ealy
• CB Keith McGill
• WR Brandon Coleman

Detroit Lions

• CB Justin Gilbert
• OT Seantrel Henderson
• WR Cody Latimer

Green Bay Packers

• FS Calvin Pryor
• TE Jace Amaro
• C Weston Richburg
• LB Chris Borland

Houston Texans

• DE Jadevon Clowney
• DT Ra’Shede Hageman
• QB Jimmy Garoppolo

Indianapolis Colts          

• FS Terrence Brooks
• OG Dakota Dozier

Jacksonville Jaguars

• QB Teddy Bridgewater
• OT Cyrus Kouandjio
• DE Trevo Reilly

Kansas City Chiefs

• WR Marqise Lee
• LB Preston Brown

Miami Dolphins

• TE Eric Ebron
• RB Jeremy Hill
• OG Cyril Richardson

Minnesota Vikings

• QB Johnny Manziel
• OG Gabe Jackson
• OLB Marcus Smith
• FS Ed Reynolds

New England Patriots

• DT Timmy Jernigan
• DT Ego Ferguson
• DE Kareem Martin

New Orleans Saints

• LB Kyle Van Noy
• WR Allen Robinson
• OT Antonio Richardson

New York Giants

• OT Taylor Lewan
• DE Scott Chricton
• DT Will Sutton

New York Jets

• WR Odell Beckham Jr.
• OG David Yankey
• CB Louchiez Purifoy

Oakland Raiders

• QB Blake Bortles
• WR Davante Adams
• CB Victor Hampton

Philadelphia Eagles

• SS Jimmie Ward
• DE Dee Ford
• WR Paul Richardson

Pittsburgh Steelers

• WR Brandin Cooks
• CB Jason Verret
• DT Justin Ellis

San Diego Chargers

• DT Louis Nix III
• OLB Jeremiah Attaochu
• CB Jaylen Watkins

San Francisco 49ers

• CB Kyle Fuller
• C Marcus Martin
• WR Donte Moncrief
• TE Austin Seferian-Jenkins
• DT Anthony Johnson
• K Chris Boswell

Seattle Seahawks

• DE Demarcus Lawrence
• WR Martavis Bryant

St. Louis Rams

• OT Greg Robinson
• WR Mike Evans
• OLB Ryan Shazier
• FS Brock Vereen

Tampa Bay Buccaneers

• OT Jake Matthews
• WR Jordan Matthews
• CB Pierre Desir

Tennessee Titans

• CB Darqueze Dennard
• RB Carlos Hyde

Washington Redskins

• Xavier Su’a-Filo
• DT Dominique Easley

Nice job OPC

[OffensivelyPC]

Nice job OPC

When I did it, some of the mock didn't make a lot of sense, i.e. Arizona took two CBs in the first two rounds.  Patriots took 3 defensive lineman with their first 3 picks.  Stuff like that.  I liked our draft.  The Texans might have gotten the most out of this draft with 3 potentially elite players, 2 of which are arguably at the 2 most important positions in the game (QB and DE).

 

Obviously it depends on how quickly the prospects develop and become acclimated to the speed fo the NFL, but I think the Falcons might have made their roster superbowl worthy this year with some of the additions they made and I think the 49ers made some very nice additions that could put them over the Seahawks this year. 

[chad72]

When I did it, some of the mock didn't make a lot of sense, i.e. Arizona took two CBs in the first two rounds.  Patriots took 3 defensive lineman with their first 3 picks.  Stuff like that.  I liked our draft.  The Texans might have gotten the most out of this draft with 3 potentially elite players, 2 of which are arguably at the 2 most important positions in the game (QB and DE).

 

Obviously it depends on how quickly the prospects develop and become acclimated to the speed fo the NFL, but I think the Falcons might have made their roster superbowl worthy this year with some of the additions they made and I think the 49ers made some very nice additions that could put them over the Seahawks this year. 

 

Yeah, when I was on the board for the Patriots 3rd round pick, I wish BlackHawk did not draft another DL for the Patriots in round 2 with you having drafted one already for the Patriots. I thought he would go for Martavis Bryant for the Patriots or Weston Richburg at center. But he went with Ego Ferguson. 

 

That did leave me with a dilemma but Kareem Martin, a top of round 2 talent was available at the end of round 3. It was too good to pass up there.

 

This probably re-inforces the fact that you mentioned, that in a mock draft, one would like to be assigned teams so that they are not handcuffed by someone else's draft picks. Arizona and New England are 2 classic cases of what can go wrong. But for the most part, the mock turned out good.

[OffensivelyPC]

Yeah, when I was on the board for the Patriots 3rd round pick, I wish BlackHawk did not draft another DL for the Patriots in round 2 with you having drafted one already for the Patriots. I thought he would go for Martavis Bryant for the Patriots or Weston Richburg at center. But he went with Ego Ferguson. 

 

That did leave me with a dilemma but Kareem Martin, a top of round 2 talent was available at the end of round 3. It was too good to pass up there.

 

This probably re-inforces the fact that you mentioned, that in a mock draft, one would like to be assigned teams so that they are not handcuffed by someone else's draft picks. Arizona and New England are 2 classic cases of what can go wrong. But for the most part, the mock turned out good.

 It didn't help that we added in a 5th guy and then replaced Dustin.  Not that we shouldn't have changed anything, I very much preferred to have more people.  It's more fun that way. But it just goes to show how it could affect consistency.

 

But I do agree it generally turned out good.  There was a couple of picks that surpised me when they got drafted like Seantrel Henderson in the 2nd.  But just because it is a surpise to me doesnt' mean its' impossible on draft day.  I eman, Dallas took that C in the late first and look how it turned out for them.  I'm curious who the will be the surprise reaches and slips.

[gacker65]

I have a feeling we will

You could be correct.  If only depth, why not look at UDFAs?

[OffensivelyPC]

You could be correct.  If only depth, why not look at UDFAs?

He's good enough to start, and be a very good starting OG.  With Castanzo, Thomas, Holmes, Dozier, Cherilus, that has the potential to be a very, very good OL.  Castanzo would be the weakest link IMO if all panned out like I think it could.

[gacker65]

He's good enough to start, and be a very good starting OG.  With Castanzo, Thomas, Holmes, Dozier, Cherilus, that has the potential to be a very, very good OL.  Castanzo would be the weakest link IMO if all panned out like I think it could.

Did not Grigson state last year, that he does not like to start rookie O-linemen.  I know Thornton started because of injuries to O-line starters.  I just do not see us drafting an O-lineman and starting them.

[PrincetonTiger]

Did not Grigson state last year, that he does not like to start rookie O-linemen.  I know Thornton started because of injuries to O-line starters.  I just do not see us drafting an O-lineman and starting them.

Yes he did

[OffensivelyPC]

Did not Grigson state last year, that he does not like to start rookie O-linemen. I know Thornton started because of injuries to O-line starters. I just do not see us drafting an O-lineman and starting them.

he did say that. But just because grigs doesnt like starting OL in their first year doesnt mean hes not good enough to start

[IndyScribe]

he did say that. But just because grigs doesnt like starting OL in their first year doesnt mean hes not good enough to start

I'm pretty sure he said that he would rather start a rookie CB over a rookie O-lineman.

[Jason_]

Did not Grigson state last year, that he does not like to start rookie O-linemen.  I know Thornton started because of injuries to O-line starters.  I just do not see us drafting an O-lineman and starting them.

 

 

Yes he did

 

No, he did not.  As Indyscribe said, he merely said that, given the choice between starting a rookie CB or a rookie OL, he would prefer to start the rookie CB.  He never said he did not like starting rookie OL.

[OffensivelyPC]

I'm pretty sure he said that he would rather start a rookie CB over a rookie O-lineman.

 

 

No, he did not.  As Indyscribe said, he merely said that, given the choice between starting a rookie CB or a rookie OL, he would prefer to start the rookie CB.  He never said he did not like starting rookie OL.

That my bad, was remembering it incorrectly.  Thanks.

[gacker65]

he did say that. But just because grigs doesnt like starting OL in their first year doesnt mean hes not good enough to start

Was told that about Thornton last year, by some other people on here, and we saw how that went.  Not saying he can't start, though I do agree about O-linemen taking 3 years to show how good they are.  That is reason that I do not like drafting O-linemen before round 5, unless in the 1st and expected to be immediate starter. 

[gacker65]

No, he did not.  As Indyscribe said, he merely said that, given the choice between starting a rookie CB or a rookie OL, he would prefer to start the rookie CB.  He never said he did not like starting rookie OL.

Wasn't sure of exact quote.  Thank you for info.