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3? We've played 2 games..

I believe he is talking about how many times he get burnt in the game today. Regardless we are beating a dead horse to the point where you can't physically see anything left of the horse. So many threads I've added to the *insert knee jerk reaction here* that I could write a book about today's reactions alone.

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Tann (whatever his name is) is pretty good. He didn't always have an easy time (5 sacks), but he withstood it. 

Toler got burnt, because of the D scheming. LB's dropping into coverage to cut off slants and crossing routs didn't work as well as the game plan suggested. He's a press corner and the outside CB's seemed to be running backwards 10 yards deep before engaging the WR. In my best Geddy Lee voice from 1977

"All the same, we take our chances, 

Laughed at by Time, 
Tricked by Circumstances. 
Plus ca change, 
Plus c'est la meme chose, 
The more that things change, 
The more they stay the same."

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A consistent pass rush would help

Listened to DFree last night, as he was asked about his lines ability to generate pressure, and he said that the lines and the secondary both help each other. Pressure helps secondary, blanket coverage helps develop sacks. (my interpretation)

 

Leave it to fans to always be either/or. Reasonable and logical is not in the the Critical Fan Scrolls.

 

Few things in the NFL are singular. When a guy is at the line in the NBA and he dionks a free throw, that is completely on him. Even in a FG attempt in the NFL, the center, the holder, and the footing affects the kicker. A bad pitch or a bad swing in MLB can fairly obvious...or they can be misinterpreted, but events in the NFL are always combinations of participation. Yet fans just looooooove to break it down to singular people and actions.

 

In a bar today as I watched the Colts, the guy beside me pointed out the Andrew Luck never beat his team in College. Like it was one player against a whole team. That is a perfect example of the common fan who complains using examples that involve a myriad of events, yet puts the blame on one person.

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I've been saying this since we signed him Toler is a slot CB forced to play on the outside against teams #1 WR's.  Were gonna need a Joe Haden type CB whether it's from draft or free agency to play this style of defense. Toler played great as a slot CB for the Cardinals but he's just not physical enough to play on the outside. Vontae is a great #2 CB with all the physical abilities but what separates him from a guy like Haden is the mental makeup.  I rewatched the Browns/Dolphins game and Haden completely shut down Wallace jammed him at line of scrimmage constantly and had the recovery speed to not get beat deep. Haden playing Wallace with not much safety help really made their defense more effective in the run and passing game. I know the Browns wouldn't trade Haden but if were gonna have a successful top 10 defense, were gonna need a shutdown CB that can take away one side of the field.

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I believe he is talking about how many times he get burnt in the game today. Regardless we are beating a dead horse to the point where you can't physically see anything left of the horse. So many threads I've added to the *insert knee jerk reaction here* that I could write a book about today's reactions alone.

 

I think he's actually suggesting that Toler will get burnt again in our next game, making it 3 times.

 

I thought he played well against the Raiders though. There's no way he got "burnt" in that game. Maybe he did last night though, he wasn't great.

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A consistent pass rush would help

From what I hear ,although I was at work and havnt had a chance to watch ,any pass rush would help.Hmmmmm  :hmm:  maybe we shouldn't have cut Nevis   :hmm: maybe we shouldn't have traded Rayford and just maybe Chapman should play more :hmm:

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