Colin Kaepernick

[ColtsBlueFL]

Defending the read option is all about discipline and good tackling, two things we didn't show much of today. With film study and better positioning, those two things can get better. I'm glad we faced this challenge before we go play the Niners.

 

I just don't think we have enough overall D talent or time for necessary improvement.  If we are to suffer a blowout (like we did a few times last season), this one is potentially it. I hope I'm wrong.

[ColtsBlueFL]

Kaep will not need to use his running skills like Pryor. He has great pocket passing skills and weapons. His running will be opportunistic, just Like Andrew Luck on his 19 yard TD scamper.

[corgi]

FYI....even if he does rip us to pieces, it only counts as one loss? Right?

IF the Colts get blown out by the 49ers this will be the type reaction you will be able to expect around here....

 

"OMG!!!! Colin Kaepernick threw 87 touchdowns, for 4,000 yards, and had an additional 18 td's on the ground for 900 yards. Then volcanoes came out of the ground and spewed blood into the sky, and then it formed into Avril Lavigne’s face and she recited the Good Will Hunting screenplay and then the words turned into sentient razors and just bored into your flesh.Then the townspeople stormed Lucas Oil Stadium with pitchforks and torches in hand, and offered Chuck Pagano and Ryan Grigson as sacrifice to the Elder Gods.Then in a fit of hysteria the forum fans demanded the reinstatement of Jim Caldwell, and the release of Andrew Luck and mediocrity held sway!"

[Goodtimes]

yeah, its not like he is bigger and stronger than every guy running itn. although i don't want him to

 

He isn't bigger and stronger than Cam Newton or Pryor....

[OffensivelyPC]

What would you guys think if we ran some read option with Luck  :clap:

I don't know about the read option, but I could see us utilizing the pistol offense.  Even Manning used it some on Thursday.

[Superman]

I don't know about the read option, but I could see us utilizing the pistol offense.  Even Manning used it some on Thursday.

 

The Broncos used the pistol extensively in preseason. Just a hybrid formation that they'll run out of, maybe some play action.

[Superman]

I just don't think we have enough overall D talent or time for necessary improvement.  If we are to suffer a blowout (like we did a few times last season), this one is potentially it. I hope I'm wrong.

 

We're not suddenly going to be better tacklers, but we might potentially get better at getting into position, and you miss fewer tackles when you are where you're supposed to be.

 

I don't think the issue is talent at all. It's entirely about execution. Our secondary was pretty good yesterday, and the defensive front was good at stopping their running backs and even pressuring Pryor. We just over pursued on designed QB runs and then didn't tackle well. All fixable. 

[ColtsBlueFL]

We're not suddenly going to be better tacklers, but we might potentially get better at getting into position, and you miss fewer tackles when you are where you're supposed to be.

 

I don't think the issue is talent at all. It's entirely about execution. Our secondary was pretty good yesterday, and the defensive front was good at stopping their running backs and even pressuring Pryor. We just over pursued on designed QB runs and then didn't tackle well. All fixable. 

 

It is still early, but I am wondering if our guys are fast enough or have good enough instincts to be able to make plays in space. That's talent, They will have to be coached to read the right keys, maintain discipline, and clog the lanes before someone gets out in space. Then maybe they can execute a proper tackle (jury still out there too). But if they don't, we may look less than average at containing it.

[jvan1973]

He isn't bigger and stronger than Cam Newton or Pryor....

basically the same size as both. much bigger than bob, wilson and kaepernick

[Goodtimes]

basically the same size as both. much bigger than bob, wilson and kaepernick

 

No. They outweigh him and both are 6'6".

[Superman]

No. They outweigh him and both are 6'6".

 

http://www.nfl.com/player/camnewton/2495455/profile

http://www.nfl.com/player/terrellepryor/2531332/profile

http://www.nfl.com/player/andrewluck/2533031/profile

 

Cam Newton is listed as 6'5", 245 pounds. Terrelle Pryor is listed as 6'4", 233 pounds. Andrew Luck is listed as 6'4", 239 pounds. 

 

So he's actually bigger than Pryor, and very insignificantly smaller than Newton. But quite honestly, all three are about the same size. To say that they're not is nitpicking at its absolute finest.

[jvan1973]

No. They outweigh him and both are 6'6".

neither are 6'6 and luck weighs more than pryor.

[jvan1973]

http://www.nfl.com/player/camnewton/2495455/profile

http://www.nfl.com/player/terrellepryor/2531332/profile

http://www.nfl.com/player/andrewluck/2533031/profile

Cam Newton is listed as 6'5", 245 pounds. Terrelle Pryor is listed as 6'4", 233 pounds. Andrew Luck is listed as 6'4", 239 pounds.

So he's actually bigger than Pryor, and very insignificantly smaller than Newton. But quite honestly, all three are about the same size. To say that they're not is nitpicking at its absolute finest.

that's what i was getting at. very similar in size

[jvan1973]

am i the only one that thinks kaepernick looks like Marlon Brandos little friend in the movie island of dr moroue?

[Goodtimes]

http://www.nfl.com/player/camnewton/2495455/profile

http://www.nfl.com/player/terrellepryor/2531332/profile

http://www.nfl.com/player/andrewluck/2533031/profile

 

Cam Newton is listed as 6'5", 245 pounds. Terrelle Pryor is listed as 6'4", 233 pounds. Andrew Luck is listed as 6'4", 239 pounds. 

 

So he's actually bigger than Pryor, and very insignificantly smaller than Newton. But quite honestly, all three are about the same size. To say that they're not is nitpicking at its absolute finest.

 

I have seen both Newton and Pryor listed at 6'6". Who knows what the truth really is.

[Superman]

I have seen both Newton and Pryor listed at 6'6". Who knows what the truth really is.

 

That's why I used the NFL.com profiles. It uses information from the team. They measure and give the information out. So I'm gonna go with their numbers as official, if you don't mind.

[jvan1973]

I have seen both Newton and Pryor listed at 6'6". Who knows what the truth really is.

where have you seen either listed at 6'6"

[jvan1973]

his size could be a problem at some point

[Goodtimes]

where have you seen either listed at 6'6"

 

I don't remember but I do remember one of the TV guys saying he was 6'6". It isn't that big of a deal. People lie about that kind of thing all the time.

[jvan1973]

I don't remember but I do remember one of the TV guys saying he was 6'6". It isn't that big of a deal. People lie about that kind of thing all the time.

well neither are 6'6". And they are both about the same size as luck

[Superman]

well neither are 6'6". And they are both about the same size as luck

[Bubba]

Colts are in real trouble this game. I just hope we can keep the loss under 3 TDS. We need a win this weekend so we don't start out 1-2

[AllYouNeedIsLuck]

Colts are in real trouble this game. I just hope we can keep the loss under 3 TDS. We need a win this weekend so we don't start out 1-2

have some faith, bubba

[BleedBlu8792]

http://www.nfl.com/player/camnewton/2495455/profile

http://www.nfl.com/player/terrellepryor/2531332/profile

http://www.nfl.com/player/andrewluck/2533031/profile

 

Cam Newton is listed as 6'5", 245 pounds. Terrelle Pryor is listed as 6'4", 233 pounds. Andrew Luck is listed as 6'4", 239 pounds. 

 

So he's actually bigger than Pryor, and very insignificantly smaller than Newton. But quite honestly, all three are about the same size. To say that they're not is nitpicking at its absolute finest.

 

I'm not really sure I would rely on their information as being completely true. Marvin was listed at 6' and having stood by him, and I'm 6'3, Marvin wasn't 6' with cleats on. Cato June is another example in that they had him listed at 220 and even he admitted in an interview that his listed weight was "generous" and that he played closer to 210 than 220. Not to say that their profiles are "way off", but I wouldn't call them competely accurate either.

[Superman]

I'm not really sure I would rely on their information as being completely true. Marvin was listed at 6' and having stood by him, and I'm 6'3, Marvin wasn't 6' with cleats on. Cato June is another example in that they had him listed at 220 and even he admitted in an interview that his listed weight was "generous" and that he played closer to 210 than 220. Not to say that their profiles are "way off", but I wouldn't call them competely accurate either.

 

Yeah, the guy on the Internet is much more reliable.

 

I get what you're saying, but I'm much more prone to believe the team's measurements than some guy who is eyeballing how tall someone is from in front of their TV.

[ColtStrong]

I just don't think we have enough overall D talent or time for necessary improvement.

 

[ColtStrong]