Chris_21 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Start with MVP and Rookie of the Year MVP1. AP2. Manning3. Brady4. Rodgers5. Watt ROY1. RG32. Luck3. Wilson4. Morris5. Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matugi Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 MVP: Adrian Peterson Peyton Manning Tom Brady Aaron Rodgers JJ Watt OROY: Wilson RG3 Luck Morris Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_21 Posted December 31, 2012 Author Share Posted December 31, 2012 MVP:Adrian PetersonPeyton ManningTom BradyAaron RodgersJJ WattOROY:WilsonRG3LuckMorrisMartin Can really see Wilson getting it as well. Remarkable how 3 Rookie QB's have lead their teams to the playoffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyTrav Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 MVP 1.Peterson 2.Rodgers 3.Manning 4.Brady RoY 1. Wilson 2. Luck 3. RGIII 4. Morris OPoY 1. Peterson 2. Calvin Johnson DPoY 1. Watt 2. A. Smith 3. V. Miller CoY 1. Arians/Pagano 2. Pete Carrol 3. M. Shannahan CPoY 1. AP/Manning GM 1. Grigson 2. (Guy in Sea. Blanking on name) 3. Elway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeyes Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 MVP = Manning! Seemed yesterday when the Vikings were 3rd down and needing a big play AP was always on the sidelines. Doesnt seem like the most valuable player to me! I of course josh just a bit because I know he is the best on their team, I just think Manning was the MVP this year! Would have liked to see him in there on those important downs and have gotten 9+ more yards then I vote him MVP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireJimCaldwell Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 These are not predictions, but my selections if I had a vote. NFL MVP: Peyton Manning, Denver BroncosNFL OPOY: Adrian Peterson, Minnesota Vikings & Calvin Johnson, Detroit Lions split vote.NFL DPOY: J.J. Watt, Houston TexansNFL ComebackPOY: Peyton Manning, Denver Broncos,OFF ROY: Robert Griffin III, Washington Redskins,DEF POY: Luke Kuechly, Carolina PanthersCoach of the year: Chuck Pagano/Bruce Arians, Indianapolis ColtsGM/Executive of the year: Bruce Allen, Washington Redskins/Ryan Grigson, Indianapolis Colts, split vote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_21 Posted December 31, 2012 Author Share Posted December 31, 2012 These are not predictions, but my selections if I had a vote. NFL MVP: Peyton Manning, Denver BroncosNFL OPOY: Adrian Peterson, Minnesota Vikings & Calvin Johnson, Detroit Lions split vote.NFL DPOY: J.J. Watt, Houston TexansNFL ComebackPOY: Peyton Manning, Denver Broncos,OFF ROY: Robert Griffin III, Washington Redskins,DEF POY: Luke Kuechly, Carolina PanthersCoach of the year: Chuck Pagano/Bruce Arians, Indianapolis ColtsGM/Executive of the year: Bruce Allen, Washington Redskins/Ryan Grigson, Indianapolis Colts, split vote Agree other than Manning over AP for MVP. Manning has been brilliant but the offensive production that AP demonstrated this year was historic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdskns4eva Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 MVPPeterson (I haved to imagine if I say Jim Brown play, this is what he would have looked like)ManningBrady ROTYGriffin (I've maintained that if RG3 wins his division, he would win Rookie of the year, he's got the stats, he's got the flash, and now he has the wins)WilsonLuckMorris Executive of the YearSeattle Seahawks (Alot of Owners are looking at their GM's saying "Why didnt you get RW?" Coach of the YearArians (How you can pick ANYONE but this guy is beyond me)Mike ShanahanJohn FoxPete Carol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireJimCaldwell Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Agree other than Manning over AP for MVP. Manning has been brilliant but the offensive production that AP demonstrated this year was historic. Peterson has had a great year. Calvin Johnson's year was more historic than Peterson's. Grand scheme of things, I can't discredit what Manning has done because another running back rushed for 2,000 yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fx Stryker Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Peterson has had a great year. Calvin Johnson's year was more historic than Peterson's. Grand scheme of things, I can't discredit what Manning has done because another running back rushed for 2,000 yards. Not to mention in '03 Jamal Lewis carried his offense into the playoffs, more so than Peterson, and still didn't get MVP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_21 Posted December 31, 2012 Author Share Posted December 31, 2012 MVPPeterson (I haved to imagine if I say Jim Brown play, this is what he would have looked like)ManningBrady ROTYGriffin (I've maintained that if RG3 wins his division, he would win Rookie of the year, he's got the stats, he's got the flash, and now he has the wins)WilsonLuckMorris Executive of the YearSeattle Seahawks (Alot of Owners are looking at their GM's saying "Why didnt you get RW?" Coach of the YearArians (How you can pick ANYONE but this guy is beyond me)Mike ShanahanJohn FoxPete CarolI think it is footballousiders that mentioned the impact AP has had compares to that of Jim Brown. That is not discrediting anyone else. Just recognizing the merits of his performance this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
braveheartcolt Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 MVP - PetersonCPOY - ManningOROY - LuckDPOY - WattCOY - Pags / BAExec - Grigson Manning played 3 winning teams and lost. Peterson hands down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowglobe Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 MVP1. AP2. Manning3. Rodgers4. Brady5. Watt ROY1. RG32. Wilson3. Luck4. Morris5. Martin Switched Brady and Rodgers, Luck and Wilson. Someone on ESPN (i know i know) said it best. This is Most Valuable Player. Not most inspirational return from four neck surgeries. The latter would be more inline with CPOY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
braveheartcolt Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 MVP1. AP2. Manning3. Rodgers4. Brady5. Watt ROY1. RG32. Wilson3. Luck4. Morris5. Martin Switched Brady and Rodgers, Luck and Wilson. Someone on ESPN (i know i know) said it best. This is Most Valuable Player. Not most inspirational return from four neck surgeries. The latter would be more inline with CPOY. I believe this will be the end result, although I still think that for the OROY, Luck has a lot less to play with and has taken the team further than the others. But I may be a tad biased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvan1973 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 MVP - PetersonionCPOY - ManningOROY - LuckDPOY - WattCOY - Pags / BAExec - GrigsonManning played 3 winning teams and lost. Peterson hands down.Might want to check that last stat you posted there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahsoul Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Might want to check that last stat you posted thereYeah.....we talked about that last night. Peyton Manning faced 5 winning teams and lost 3 of those. But I just went back and looked at what AD has done this season and then looked at Christian Ponder's performance. I swear, if people did that, no matter what kool-aid they are drinking, would have to give it up to what he has done this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 MVP -- Peyton Manning / Adrian PetersonOPOY -- Adrian PetersonDPOY -- JJ WattCPOY -- Peyton Manning / Adrian PetersonOROY -- Robert Griffin III (don't like it, but I think he barely gets it)DROY -- Luke Kuechly (Hayward was my frontrunner, but Kuechly really excelled in the last 4 weeks)Coach -- Bruce Arians / Chuck PaganoExec -- Ryan Grigson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvan1973 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Yeah.....we talked about that last night. Peyton Manning faced 5 winning teams and lost 3 of those.But I just went back and looked at what AD has done this season and then looked at Christian Ponder's performance. I swear, if people did that, no matter what kool-aid they are drinking, would have to give it up to what he has done this season.I have no problem with AD winning it. He drug his team into the playoffs. Amazing season considering everyone knew he was gonna be running Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fx Stryker Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Someone on ESPN (i know i know) said it best. This is Most Valuable Player. Not most inspirational return from four neck surgeries. The latter would be more inline with CPOY. Isn't the drive behind Peterson's campaign his knee surgery? I'm just curious. He hasn't accomplished anything no one else hasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fx Stryker Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Yeah.....we talked about that last night. Peyton Manning faced 5 winning teams and lost 3 of those. But I just went back and looked at what AD has done this season and then looked at Christian Ponder's performance. I swear, if people did that, no matter what kool-aid they are drinking, would have to give it up to what he has done this season. Jamal Lewis in '03? Ravens QB's: 2517 yards, 16 TDs and 19 INTs. Jamal Lewis: 2066 yards rushing, 14 TDs and 250 yards receiving with 0 TDs. 2316 total yards. and 14 total TDs Ponder: 2935 yards, 18 TDs, and 10 INTs. Adrian Peterson: 2097 yards rushing, 12 TDs and 217 yards receiving with 1 TD. 2314 Total yards and 13 total TDs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahsoul Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Jamal Lewis in '03? Ravens QB's: 2517 yards, 16 TDs and 19 INTs. Jamal Lewis: 2066 yards rushing, 14 TDs and 250 yards receiving with 0 TDs. 2316 total yards. and 14 total TDs Ponder: 2935 yards, 18 TDs, and 10 INTs. Adrian Peterson: 2097 yards rushing, 12 TDs and 217 yards receiving with 1 TD. 2314 Total yards and 13 total TDs.I see the angle...lol. I honestly believed that Jamaal Lewis should have gotten it that year, but I think (sadly) he was hurt by the Ravens having the #1 defense at the time, which sucks. Running backs come under the most scrutiny when it comes to MVP. The Vikings were 3-13 last year, and finish 10-6 on the back of the AD. I think the last play of that game was fitting for how the Vikings season has gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fx Stryker Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 I see the angle...lol. I honestly believed that Jamaal Lewis should have gotten it that year, but I think (sadly) he was hurt by the Ravens having the #1 defense at the time, which sucks. Running backs come under the most scrutiny when it comes to MVP. The Vikings were 3-13 last year, and finish 10-6 on the back of the AD. I think the last play of that game was fitting for how the Vikings season has gone. Jamal Lewis didn't have the #1 defense at the time. Jamal Lewis took one of the worst offenses in the NFL, and made them top 10. However years prior has no play into a person's season. I felt bad for AP after his last run. It was hard run, and he wanted it bad. However I think he needed the record for MVP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahsoul Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Jamal Lewis didn't have the #1 defense at the time. Jamal Lewis took one of the worst offenses in the NFL, and made them top 10. However years prior has no play into a person's season.Ravens didn't have the #1 defense that year? I know they were top 3. I thought that was one of there #1 years. Also, the Ravens had the 21st ranked offense in 2003 (I just checked) And AD did the same thing. Prior to yesterdays game, the Vikings had the 32nd ranked passing game and #2 ranked rushing. Also, prior year is important because that is what's used as a baseline for the teams success this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fx Stryker Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Ravens didn't have the #1 defense that year? I know they were top 3. I thought that was one of there #1 years. Also, the Ravens had the 21st ranked offense in 2003 (I just checked) And AD did the same thing. Prior to yesterdays game, the Vikings had the 32nd ranked passing game and #2 ranked rushing. Also, prior year is important because that is what's used as a baseline for the teams success this season. Yes you are correct, they were 21st in yards and 6th in scoring. Lewis has the worst passing offense the whole season, but the best rushing team. Unlike Peterson, who had the worst passing game through 15 games, but the season is 15 games long. The Vikings are second in rushing through 16. So again Lewis beats him in both categories through 16 games. If prior years are important than Peyton Manning's team was 2-14. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowglobe Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Isn't the drive behind Peterson's campaign his knee surgery? I'm just curious. He hasn't accomplished anything no one else hasn't. Manning's campaign is largely fueled by his neck surgeries which is why I think he will likely end up CPOY. If Peyton didn't have any surgeries and was still starting for Denver + had the season he currently had, Rodgers would get the MVP nod. Rodgers has done more with less and had a better season. Unfortunately people are trying to twist CPOY into MVP. Petersons campaign is largely fueled by almost breaking Dickerson's record. A 28 year old record. If Peterson ran for 1800 yards right now, no way he would be in contention for MVP. He would still lead the NFL but 1800 isn't anything special. In fact, he wasn't even a candidate until about week 9 or 10. Morris has something like 1613 yards and is 2nd in rushing. Peterson ran for 1600 yards in 10 games alone (Week 7-16). He did it while facing 8 or 9 in the box, while average 6.0ypc, 900 yards after contact, and has less carries than Jamal Lewis/Chris Johnson and Eric Dickerson, while playing in a much more difficult division (W/L the strongest in the NFL), and being the entire center piece of that offense, and in what is now considered a passing league(although Ponder isn't very good). His performance against the Green Bay packers was fantastic. That last run basically was his way of showing the NFL why he deserves MVP. The comparisons to Chris Johnson and Jamal Lewis are not completely relevant. CJ did nothing to carry that team and believe it or not, VY was a major reason why they won games down the stretch. Hell he somehow made the pro bowl(Manning went to the SB). Jamal Lewis played in an awful division in 2003 and had 39 more attempts than Peterson. That's basically a game and a half. If you gave Peterson 39 more touches, he would have shattered the record. The last statistic that sums up why he will get the MVP award. The Vikings were 6-5 and out of the playoff picture at that point. In the month of december he ran for 861 yards and the Vikings went 4-1 to get into the playoffs. In his only loss in that span, he ran for 212 yards. If iirc the vikings needed to win 4 straight to get in or the Bears/Seahawks needed to lose 'x'. They won 4 straight and did it while beating the Packers, Texans, and Bears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fx Stryker Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 *post* I must admit, I am surprised I got a real answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahsoul Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 If prior years are important than Peyton Manning's team was 2-14.And if Andrew Luck didn't have almost as many total turnovers as total touchdowns, then I would say he should be in the running. The comparisons to Chris Johnson and Jamal Lewis are not completely relevant. CJ did nothing to carry that team and believe it or not, VY was a major reason why they won games down the stretch. Hell he somehow made the pro bowl(Manning went to the SB). Jamal Lewis played in an awful division in 2003 and had 39 more attempts than Peterson. That's basically a game and a half. If you gave Peterson 39 more touches, he would have shattered the record.You know what's crazy about Chris Johnson record season? (coming from someone who watched every game because he was on my fantasy team) His production didn't slack off as the year went on and he got a bad wrap because of not going to the playoffs. CJ2K did everything to carry that team but you had to have been following the team to know that. Titans Total TDS - 35; Chris Johnson Total Touchdowns - 16 (14 rushing, 2 rec.)Titans Total Yards - 5696; Chris Johnson Total Yards - 2509 People don't remember that the Titans made a push for the playoffs but the Chargers ended it. Vince Young that game - 8/21, 89 yards, 0 tds and 2 ints. touchdown runChris Johnson that game - 21 carries, 142 yards, 1 td, 37 yards rec. So to be honest, I know a lot of people want to discredit what Chris Johnson did that year (I won't say where...*whistles*...lol) and want to say that he didn't do anything for that team because he the Titans didn't get into the playoffs but if you really look at it, he did everything. The key difference between the 2009 Titans and 2012 Viking is the QB showed up to play when it mattered. (and they won games early) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowglobe Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 I must admit, I am surprised I got a real answer. For the record I'm not saying necessarily Manning won't win it but moreso making a case why Peterson should get it instead of Manning. Don't get me wrong Manning has had one heck of a season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowglobe Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 And if Andrew Luck didn't have almost as many total turnovers as total touchdowns, then I would say he should be in the running. You know what's crazy about Chris Johnson record season? (coming from someone who watched every game because he was on my fantasy team) His production didn't slack off as the year went on and he got a bad wrap because of not going to the playoffs. CJ2K did everything to carry that team but you had to have been following the team to know that. Titans Total TDS - 35; Chris Johnson Total Touchdowns - 16 (14 rushing, 2 rec.)Titans Total Yards - 5696; Chris Johnson Total Yards - 2509 People don't remember that the Titans made a push for the playoffs but the Chargers ended it. Vince Young that game - 8/21, 89 yards, 0 tds and 2 ints. touchdown runChris Johnson that game - 21 carries, 142 yards, 1 td, 37 yards rec. So to be honest, I know a lot of people want to discredit what Chris Johnson did that year (I won't say where...*whistles*...lol) and want to say that he didn't do anything for that team because he the Titans didn't get into the playoffs but if you really look at it, he did everything. The key difference between the 2009 Titans and 2012 Viking is the QB showed up to play when it mattered. (and they won games early) Yeah sorry I don't mean to discredit Johnson in any way. I thought he deserved more consideration for MVP especially breaking the scrimmage record but I think what Peterson is doing right now is pretty damn special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahsoul Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 Yeah sorry I don't mean to discredit Johnson in any way. I thought he deserved more consideration for MVP especially breaking the scrimmage record but I think what Peterson is doing right now is pretty damn special. I wasn't saying you but a lot of people totally discredited what he did that year as far as it relating to team success. They gave all the credit to Young when it was really Johnson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fx Stryker Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 For the record I'm not saying necessarily Manning won't win it but moreso making a case why Peterson should get it instead of Manning. Don't get me wrong Manning has had one heck of a season. Oh I know. My vote is for Manning, but if AP gets it I have no problem. They both deserve the award. It just comes down to the voters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 MVP: Peterson OPOY: Johnson DPOY: JJ Watt CPOY: Manning OROY: RG3 DROY: Jenkins COTY: Arians/Pagano EOY: Grigson should win it but ultimately it will go to Elway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 MVP = Manning! Seemed yesterday when the Vikings were 3rd down and needing a big play AP was always on the sidelines. Doesnt seem like the most valuable player to me! . Was that play before or after he broke a 26 yard run to put his team in field goal position with 10 seconds left in the game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeyes Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 "that play" like it was singular? He was on the sidelines for 3rd down more than enough times for it to make me go hmmmmmmmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowglobe Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 "that play" like it was singular? He was on the sidelines for 3rd down more than enough times for it to make me go hmmmmmmmm. You're right. Peterson is definitely not going to win MVP because he was not in on enough 3rd downs according to a poster on the Colts forum. Forget all the other 15 games, him not being in on 3rd downs in the final game despite rushing for 199 yards and putting the team in FG range to boost his team into the playoffs definitely hurts his MVP chances. Thank god MVP voters meticulously watch players on 3rd downs in their final game of the season and use that to outweigh their entire performance for the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 "that play" like it was singular? He was on the sidelines for 3rd down more than enough times for it to make me go hmmmmmmmm. You realize that he had a career high 34 carries right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeyes Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 You're right. Peterson is definitely not going to win MVP because he was not in on enough 3rd downs according to a poster on the Colts forum. Forget all the other 15 games, him not being in on 3rd downs in the final game despite rushing for 199 yards and putting the team in FG range to boost his team into the playoffs definitely hurts his MVP chances. Thank god MVP voters meticulously watch players on 3rd downs in their final game of the season and use that to outweigh their entire performance for the game. did you read my original post - I said I was joshing! Geesh! PAY ATTENTION! Ive said several times this season AP has been a beast - no doubts about it! However so has Manning and he IMO is more deserving of the award! Its an opinion get over yourselfs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowglobe Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 did you read my original post - I said I was joshing! Geesh! PAY ATTENTION! Ive said several times this season AP has been a beast - no doubts about it! However so has Manning and he IMO is more deserving of the award! Its an opinion get over yourselfs! After you said you were "joshing" Would have liked to see him in there on those important downs and have gotten 9+ more yards then I vote him MVP. I just want to be sure. You were "joshing" then not "joshing"? Or were you "joshing" the whole time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-B Posted January 1, 2013 Share Posted January 1, 2013 MVP: Peyton Manning (I would switch Peyton and Adrian, but I don't think it would be voted that way)CPOY: Adrian PetersonOPOY: Calvin JohnsonDPOY: JJ WattOROY: RGIII (I would give it to Luck, but that's probably bias that I think he deserves it more)DROY: Janoris JenkinsCotY: Bruce AriansEotY: Grigson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeyes Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 After you said you were "joshing" I just want to be sure. You were "joshing" then not "joshing"? Or were you "joshing" the whole time? Still pressing huh? LOL - I wrote in English - the part about not being in on the 3rd downs! Manning for MVP !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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