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No, you sound like someone who is in a cult. Note the word, cult, not Colt lol. No offense Jules but I know that you are better than resorting to cold sarcasm to prove a point. I would take Schaub and even Yates over 12 at this point..at least Yates already has a playoff win under his belt lol. Yeah, 12 is special...a rookie who is barely beating terrible competition. I will continue rooting for Griffin, not worshipping him...especially when he wins a Super Bowl before 12 does. How's that for a bold prediction? ;) I don't care much for his smile as much as his awesomeness, game winning mentality and propensity for NOT creating turnovers. But that's just me.

You worship RG3 just as much as you claim some of us are cult like for Luck on a Colts forum when he is the Colts QB.

I have never heard you say a single thing against RG3 and I have never really heard you make a real compliment towards Luck that probably didn't have a slight insult in there:

Yeah, 12 is special...a rookie who is barely beating terrible competition.

I am all for having conversations with fans of other teams. In fact I get along sometimes MOST with fans of other teams. But, the constant RG3 cheerleading by a few of you does make me suspicious.

Hey at least Pats fans don't seem to feel threatened. They give their kudos to Luck but are pretty secure with their own team and where it's going.

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It pains me to accept the fact that this comparison will be around for the next 10 years smh. Why do people have to be compared??? Why can't everyone just be their own person????

Because some fans are insecure at times when one player is outperforming another, and resort to breaking that one player down. I've been saying it since before the draft...12 and Griffin are both good players.

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The irony to me is that we as Colts fans don't hype up/love Luck anymore then you praise/hype up and gush over Rg3.

And he isn't even your QB.

I mean I understand. Sometimes I like QBs of other teams too. I have sometimes flat out gushed to the point it is sickening over Rodgers.

But, even Luck made me kinda forget about Rodgers which is crazy to people I know......

I swear to God that if Luck is down 10 near the end of a game I would rather have the ball in Luck's hands over Rodgers. Some QBs just seem to have IT when it matters and Rodgers has never been a big comeback guy.

If anyone can't see that Luck has IT in his rookie year on this team with all these holes......wow. It's just out there for anyone to see if they are interested.

I just can't wait to see what this team looks like next season. And the season after. And the season after that.

Man we are LUCKY as Colts fans.

We should watch some of those Andrew Luck workout videos too and become hardcore fan girly.

Hey J I ain't got no interest in watching dude work out .... just work out on Sunday..

hehe... :td:

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No, you sound like someone who is in a cult. Note the word, cult, not Colt lol. No offense Jules but I know that you are better than resorting to cold sarcasm to prove a point. I would take Schaub and even Yates over 12 at this point..at least Yates already has a playoff win under his belt lol. Yeah, 12 is special...a rookie who is barely beating terrible competition. I will continue rooting for Griffin, not worshipping him...especially when he wins a Super Bowl before 12 does. How's that for a bold prediction? ;) I don't care much for his smile as much as his awesomeness, game winning mentality and propensity for NOT creating turnovers. But that's just me.

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I bet you he doesn't. If you stick around long enough on this board for one of them to win a SB. :D

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I'm not one to go and waste time looking up numbers because no matter what you and/or the other Griffin "non-supporters" will try to find a way to twist them and claim that they are a result of the "college happy system". I'm sure one of the Redskins fans here will be happy enough to post them though. No need to take away anything from Griffin because he is successful passing, play action or not...That'd be like me saying Well, 12 has a lot of yards, but it's because he throws the ball a lot. Well duh...

RG3's stats NOT throwing off of play action are.... not pretty...

ESPN did it this morning ... but hey won't continue to... they are in the midst of a love fest. So...

Sigh..

Andrew has to carry a team and Robert has to run the option...

Sigh.. but alas... The Cream rises to the the top.

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You worship RG3 just as much as you claim some of us are cult like for Luck on a Colts forum when he is the Colts QB.

I have never heard you say a single thing against RG3 and I have never really heard you make a real compliment towards Luck that probably didn't have a slight insult in there:

I am all for having conversations with fans of other teams. In fact I get along sometimes MOST with fans of other teams. But, the constant RG3 cheerleading by a few of you does make me suspicious.

Hey at least Pats fans don't seem to feel threatened. They give their kudos to Luck but are pretty secure with their own team and where it's going.

Yeah, I definitely feel threatened despite our 11-1 record and top spot in the AFC. Again, this is nothing about Colts/Texans. This is about a player that I believe is performing better than the other. Feel free to skim through my posts and you will certainly find compliments for 12. Just because I don't worship him doesn't mean I don't think he isn't a good player. Want to hear something about Griffin that I don't like? His overthrowing of receivers on fades and posts that should not be rushed at times. I could add more but I don't feel the need to validate myself to someone who is letting this argument fly right over their head, despite what I say.

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:facepalm:

I bet you he doesn't. If you stick around long enough on this board for one of them to win a SB. :D

I'll be here. It's my prediction, my opinion, so I will leave it at that. The Yates comment was a snarky joke and is intended to reflect the satire going on in this entire debate.

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RG3's stats NOT throwing off of play action are.... not pretty...

ESPN did it this morning ... but hey won't continue to... they are in the midst of a love fest. So...

Sigh..

Andrew has to carry a team and Robert has to run the option...

Sigh.. but alas... The Cream rises to the the top.

Sigh. Okay man. Whatever you say. The fact of the matter is that they are both good and I expect good things out of both of them.

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Hype up? I defend the guy. I acknowledge that he is playing great for a rookie quarterback, no matter what system he is in. I read these threads enough and see Colt fans attacking other Colts fans if they even mention that 12 could have done better in that game. The most common retort? " He won, that's all that matters, and he's a rookie so give the guy a break." 12 can do no wrong to some. Manning has indeed passed on the torch. I like 12, have since he was playing at Stanford. I actually got giddy knowing that he would be in the division...but, like every other QB in the NFL (including Griffin) he is not perfect.

Maybe it's just me but I did say this offseason I was looking for wins in any way and if they happened I would appreciate them. After last season and the expectations heading into this season I was not expecting this team to set the world on fire in terms of great stats either. This is still a house money year.....

Next year and the year after I am sure people get more critical. We are not exactly the New England Patriots here are we? No. We are still growing.....

So if honestly I don't want to tear the kid up for a few picks in a game we win I won't do it. I also remember in 1998 not being overly concerned either with 18's interceptions.

Now if the Colts decided to run some college crap on offense and developed the #1 rushing attack in the league....then heck ya I would expect less picks. ;)

I fully have said at times that RG3 is good and talented and might have a bright future. Is that not enough? If people are looking for me to say I think he is better then Luck or is blowing me away then they are talking to the wrong woman. I won't lie to you folks......

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Maybe it's just me but I did say this offseason I was looking for wins in any way and if they happened I would appreciate them. After last season and the expectations heading into this season I was not expecting this team to set the world on fire in terms of great stats either. This is still a house money year.....

Next year and the year after I am sure people get more critical. We are not exactly the New England Patriots here are we? No. We are still growing.....

So if honestly I don't want to tear the kid up for a few picks in a game we win I won't do it. I also remember in 1998 not being overly concerned either with 18's interceptions.

Now if the Colts decided to run some college crap on offense and developed the #1 rushing attack in the league....then heck ya I would expect less picks. ;)

I fully have said at times that RG3 is good and talented and might have a bright future. Is that not enough? If people are looking for me to say I think he is better then Luck or is blowing me away then they are talking to the wrong woman. I won't lie to you folks......

No, you don't have to say that Griffin is doing better than 12, but you also don't have to compare his style of play to the highs of using drugs. What would it be like if a Redskin fan said the same thing of 12 if these situations were switched and Griffin was throwing 17 interceptions and 12 had 2? (Whoa, a lot of numbers there...starting to confuse myself lol). In your opinion, 12 is doing better. Cool. In my opinion, Griffin is doing better. Also cool. Hopefully this settles down this thread and kills it once and for all.

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RG3 might really be Aaron Rodgers 2.0 but problem is as time goes on I am actually starting to think Rodgers is becoming overrated. Is that crazy or what? He is kind of a front runner QB but I don't feel he is good under adversity enough.

Luck's style so far reminds me more of some of the rugged old school studs; Elway, Moon, Favre in his prime.....

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No, you don't have to say that Griffin is doing better than 12, but you also don't have to compare his style of play to the highs of using drugs. What would it be like if a Redskin fan said the same thing of 12 if these situations were switched and Griffin was throwing 17 interceptions and 12 had 2? (Whoa, a lot of numbers there...starting to confuse myself lol). In your opinion, 12 is doing better. Cool. In my opinion, Griffin is doing better. Also cool. Hopefully this settles down this thread and kills it once and for all.

what are you talking about?

Sigh.. Good Lord you are bantering with a vet Colt poster... of many forums and you are trying to .... use "drug" ref?

I am confused. Adrenalin IS a DRUG and Andrew Luck creates ADRENALIN through his play

Same as RG3 . right?

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Both are great players and that should be the end of it. Andrew Luck's INT's are so high because he is asked to do more at a play calling stand point. Couple of INT's aren't on him. Nothing trying to sound bias, but I'd take My Colts with Andrew Luck any day!

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what are you talking about?

Sigh.. Good Lord you are bantering with a vet Colt poster... of many forums and you are trying to .... use "drug" ref?

I am confused. Adrenalin IS a DRUG and Andrew Luck creates ADRENALIN through his play

Same as RG3 . right?

Hey the drug references are not that bad. But, maybe old Big Ben is right. Maybe we do get carried way with this stuff and it is like a short term high for us.

But, we have to enjoy it. They will no longer be rookies next year and then we will start to see what they are truly made of.

And if we are in the playoffs and all....well yeah I do realize Luck and this team could get pounded. But, at the same time I won't be stunned if they walk away with an improbable win either.

OMG welcome back 1995 Colts!!!!!!! :)

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what are you talking about?

Sigh.. Good Lord you are bantering with a vet Colt poster... of many forums and you are trying to .... use "drug" ref?

I am confused. Adrenalin IS a DRUG and Andrew Luck creates ADRENALIN through his play

Same as RG3 . right?

12's play wasn't compared to drugs. Griffin's was. And shortly followed by a word of advice to not use "drugs". My bad if I took it wrong. I am really not trying to be an antagonist here my friend. You are right though; Adrenaline is indeed something that will happen to people watching these two play.

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You know the RG3/Rodgers comparison is making more sense to me with their size and styles and personalities the more I think about it.

Wow, Luck has been like a truth serum to me. He has brought back a lot of memories for me too as a kid watching retired greats.

RG3 IS new school. Luck is a throw back to me to me at times though and I could even see Luck playing in eras gone by.

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12's play wasn't compared to drugs. Griffin's was. And shortly followed by a word of advice to not use "drugs". My bad if I took it wrong. I am really not trying to be an antagonist here my friend. You are right though; Adrenaline is indeed something that will happen to people watching these two play.

Hey....a lot of what I say now and over the years is tongue in cheek. Sorry if I rubbed anyone the wrong way.

And yes we all probably get natural highs at times watching our faves play the game.

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Hey....a lot of what I say now and over the years is tongue in cheek. Sorry if I rubbed anyone the wrong way.

And yes we all probably get natural highs at times watching our faves play the game.

Oh yes...the highs are the best part of football haha. That's why I can't wait for the Super Bowl to get here...no matter who is playing, I'm always pumped the night before and spend alllll day getting prepped for the game. And then, as quickly as it comes, it's over...then I have to tolerate watching the Heat/Lakers dominating the same old teams and getting yet another ring. :bored:

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You know the RG3/Rodgers comparison is making more sense to me with their size and styles and personalities the more I think about it.

Wow, Luck has been like a truth serum to me. He has brought back a lot of memories for me too as a kid watching retired greats.

RG3 IS new school. Luck is a throw back to me to me at times though and I could even see Luck playing in eras gone by.

He did already...his name was Unitas. haha

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Oh yes...the highs are the best part of football haha. That's why I can't wait for the Super Bowl to get here...no matter who is playing, I'm always pumped the night before and spend alllll day getting prepped for the game. And then, as quickly as it comes, it's over...then I have to tolerate watching the Heat/Lakers dominating the same old teams and getting yet another ring. :bored:

Are the Lakers still able to do that? haha

Now thats a team living off repuation and trying to buy a ring to compete with the Heat. Good Lord. We all know the Heat will likely win it all anyway as long as they are in one piece and in the playoffs.

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Are the Lakers still able to do that? haha

Now thats a team living off repuation and trying to buy a ring to compete with the Heat. Good Lord. We all know the Heat will likely win it all anyway as long as they are in one piece and in the playoffs.

Hahaha I hope not. The Lakers are like the Cowboys...in a way. As of late all about the flash and dazzle and living in the limelight as a team America hates but their fanbase oggles. And, sadly, you are right...LeBron will probably get another ring this year. Now that is one athlete that I cannot bear watching win...it's like, why is this happening? It's just not fair. :(

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No, you sound like someone who is in a cult. Note the word, cult, not Colt lol. No offense Jules but I know that you are better than resorting to cold sarcasm to prove a point. I would take Schaub and even Yates over 12 at this point..at least Yates already has a playoff win under his belt lol. Yeah, 12 is special...a rookie who is barely beating terrible competition. I will continue rooting for Griffin, not worshipping him...especially when he wins a Super Bowl before 12 does. How's that for a bold prediction? ;) I don't care much for his smile as much as his awesomeness, game winning mentality and propensity for NOT creating turnovers. But that's just me.

Now Qwiz you know me, I never get into the RG3 vs Luck thing because I give props to both, but I can't resist chiming in about the TJ Yates thing, although I won't get too deep. I understand you're just coming back hard because Jules came after you, but TJ Yates? T.J. Yates was never asked to throw 40 and 50 times a game behind a bad offensive line with no running game.

If he was, I don't think he would have remained the starting quarterback going into the playoffs because he would have thrown so many picks it wouldn't have been funny. They would have sat him down, and put Jeff Garcia in the game. Even with the limited amount of things they asked Yates to do, he still lost 3 out of his 6 regular season games, and the 3(consecutive games) he lost were against really BAD competition. Coincidentally all of the losses came at this exact time of the year, a time where you are saying you would take him "at this point".

Yates won a playoff game, but it was more of a team win more than anything spectacular Yates did. I guarantee if you put Luck on that team with everything they had, there is almost no doubt in my mind your team would have been in the AFCC game if not the Super Bowl. I would never take Yates over Luck under any circumstance.

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Now thats what I'm talking about Q Boy. Bravo.

Hahaha yeah sometimes our discussions get foggy due to our obvious team loyalties. 12 is indeed a very good player and I see him resurrecting the Colts and getting the same excitement and awe out of the fanbase with his natural playmaking as Unitas did...except with more than one Super Bowl, I believe.

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Hahaha I hope not. The Lakers are like the Cowboys...in a way. As of late all about the flash and dazzle and living in the limelight as a team America hates but their fanbase oggles. And, sadly, you are right...LeBron will probably get another ring this year. Now that is one athlete that I cannot bear watching win...it's like, why is this happening? It's just not fair. :(

In some series there is often "a swing game". Last year it was game 2 vs. Boston which was the one where Rondo go the no call vs. the heat in OT and Lebron alone got 24 FTs.

So yeah be careful if you touch or breath on Lebron James....

Spurs also got jobbed in game 6 in OKC. They wanted Lebron vs. Durant.

Lakers are overrated.

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Now Qwiz you know me, I never get into the RG3 vs Luck thing because I give props to both, but I can't resist chiming in about the TJ Yates thing, although I won't get too deep. I understand you're just coming back hard because Jules came after you, but TJ Yates? T.J. Yates was never asked to throw 40 and 50 times a game behind a bad offensive line with no running game.

If he was, I don't think he would have remained the starting quarterback going into the playoffs because he would have thrown so many picks it wouldn't have been funny. They would have sat him down, and put Jeff Garcia in the game. Even with the limited amount of things they asked Yates to do, he still lost 3 out of his 6 regular season games, and the 3(consecutive games) he lost were against really BAD competition. Coincidentally all of the losses came at this exact time of the year, a time where you are saying you would take him "at point".

Yates won a playoff game, but it was more of a team win more than anything spectacular Yates did. I guarantee if you put Luck on that team with everything they had, there is almost no doubt in my mind your team would have been in the AFCC game if not the Super Bowl. I would never take Yates over Luck under any circumstance.

I agree completely with everything you said my friend. I did not seriously mean that I believe our rookie 5th-rounder was better than this guy heralded as being the best since Elway. We were grasping at straws last year and I think deep down inside a lot of us knew that we weren't getting to the big dance with a rookie at QB, and a guy like Yates at that, though I am not discrediting how well he performed for us, which was well enough. Jacoby Jones is the real villain when it comes to that playoff loss haha. :flaming: I wish that we had had 12 last year when we got into the playoffs...with our run game and his athleticism and football I.Q. he might have made things much smoother for a Super Bowl appearance.

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If you can't tell that I was joking then my bad. This isn't about "us" versus "them" anyway. I know that 12 is more talented than Yates, I'm making a point by being ironic.

If I'd have seen this I wouldn't have even bothered posting. Cool

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Now Qwiz you know me, I never get into the RG3 vs Luck thing because I give props to both, but I can't resist chiming in about the TJ Yates thing, although I won't get too deep. I understand you're just coming back hard because Jules came after you, but TJ Yates? T.J. Yates was never asked to throw 40 and 50 times a game behind a bad offensive line with no running game.

If he was, I don't think he would have remained the starting quarterback going into the playoffs because he would have thrown so many picks it wouldn't have been funny. They would have sat him down, and put Jeff Garcia in the game. Even with the limited amount of things they asked Yates to do, he still lost 3 out of his 6 regular season games, and the 3(consecutive games) he lost were against really BAD competition. Coincidentally all of the losses came at this exact time of the year, a time where you are saying you would take him "at point".

Yates won a playoff game, but it was more of a team win more than anything spectacular Yates did. I guarantee if you put Luck on that team with everything they had, there is almost no doubt in my mind your team would have been in the AFCC game if not the Super Bowl. I would never take Yates over Luck under any circumstance.

I wonder why the Skins don't want RG3 throwing over 30 times a game?

hmmmmm?

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In some series there is often "a swing game". Last year it was game 2 vs. Boston which was the one where Rondo go the no call vs. the heat in OT and Lebron alone got 24 FTs.

So yeah be careful if you touch or breath on Lebron James....

Spurs also got jobbed in game 6 in OKC. They wanted Lebron vs. Durant.

Lakers are overrated.

Yeah, a lot of people believe that the game is rigged as well. That Rondo call had me fuming for days. LBJ is the Chosen One it seems and he will get any call he wants, unfortunately. The Lakers, even after acquiring Howard and Nash, are, yes, still very overrated. I don't think Bryant's getting another championship before he retires. In any case, watching is still boring...I mean, we never get Cinderella stories in basketball. I'm sure it will be the Heat, Celtics, or Thunder in the Finals again. Boy, what a surprise. :nutz:

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I wonder why the Skins don't want RG3 throwing over 30 times a game?

hmmmmm?

Because opponents would complain about the 78-3 lopsided scores from his trusty, open receivers downfield lol. I wouldn't mind seeing it though hahaha.

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Davis (Illinois) - The New Mexico Lobos ran a zone-scheme concept 318 times in 2023 and Davis was on the field for 316 of those snaps where he helped the team earn a 91.5 rushing grade with 58 explosive runs.  Davis is well-rounded earning a 78.6 inside-zone run grade and a 78.4 outside-zone run grade.  See how well Davis does after transferring the Big 10 this season.  Overall, 82.4 run-blocking grade in 2023.  Comparison Illinois Isaiah Adams was drafted #71 by Arizona and was ranked 8th best zone OL in 2023 and Davis was 5th best.  In 2022 Davis earned a 66.8 overall PFF grade and in 2023 had an 87.1 pass-blocking grade.  If the Colts do trade/cap release Braden Smith than Davis is a high target to hopefully take early to replace him.   Round 4 TE Jalin Conyers (Texas Tech) - In 2022 Conyers forced 21 missed tackles which led all TEs in the country.  Plus, ranked 4th in receiving yards after contact (170).  As a redshirt freshman in 2021 had a 73.5 pass-blocking grade while playing at Arizona State.  Conyers can be elusive with the ball in his hands.  In his first season was used heavily as a run-blocker (2021) and excelled as a blocker ranking him 4th in the Pac-12.  Back in August 2023 Rick Spielman said he may be the best run-blocking TE in the class behind Cade Stover.  Considered a true Y TE efficient at run-blocking and can catch with run-after ability.  Spielman said last year would have had a Late Day 2 grade, while Ryan Wilson says Rounds 3-4.  Potential to be a red zone monster in the NFL if he continues to grow his game.  Last year Round 4 was where tight ends were drafted and expect the same again in 2025.  Replaces Mo Alie-Cox.   Round 5 Edge/RDE Anton Juncaj (Arkansas) – 2023 College Football FCS All-America Team while at Albany.  2022 PFF grade of 75.1.  2023 final defense grade of 91.3, run defense 87.4, pass rush 90.6 and 68.5 coverage grade and racked up 55 tackles (34 solo), 21.5 TFL, 15 sacks, 3 PD and forced 5 fumbles.  Key matchups against RB Ollie Gordon II (Oklahoma St) the Reigning Doak Walker Award Winner from 2023 and projected first rounder LT Kelvin Banks Jr (Texas).   Round 6 Rover/SLB-SAF Justin Barron (Syracuse) - 2023 College Football All-ACC Team.  Defensive Captain. 6’4” 231 pounds had 0.5 sacks, 3 *, 1 FR, 1 INT, and 8 PDs in 2023 (81.4 PFF grade).  In 2022 had 64 tackles and 5 TFLs.  Reminds me of Jaylon Carlies whom the Colts just drafted in Round 5P151.  Key matchup versus Cal and RB Jayden Ott.  WR Eric Singleton Jr (Georgia Tech), WR Kevin Concepcion (NC State), WR-X Ricky White (UNLV), RB Desmond Reid, TE Justin Joly (UConn).  Solid in zone coverage.   Round 7 SS Mishael Powell Miami (FL) – Powell transferred from Washington.  In Week 8 he clocked 21.0 mph.  In 876 snaps in 2023 Powell played 477 in the slot, 165 in the box, and 122 at FS finishing with a strong 73.9 coverage and 69 defensive grades.   Potential UDFAs ·         QB KJ Jefferson (Arkansas) - 2023 PFF TOW 2 honors ·         R3-UDFA RT Jalen Travis (Iowa State) 6’7” 310 pounds - While at Princeton finished with an overall 80.7 PFF Grade and 9th best OT in D1 (89% pass blocking and 75% run blocking grades). – Much like OT Tyler McLellan (Campbell) signed with Chargers, project to UDFA in 2025.  See how he does at Iowa State against better competition as he graded slightly behind Kiran Amegadjie (Yale) who was drafted in Round 3 P11 by the Bears in 2024 NFL draft.  Listed as backup behind Tyler Miller. ·         LT Adam Karas (Air Force) - After 9 weeks Karas has an 83.9 run-blocking grade and an overall PFF grade of 87.4.  Overall, 86.3 PFF grade with just one penalty and 1 QB hurry on 296 total snaps.  Decent height 6’4” ·         RT Josh Fryar (OSU) - 2023 earned college football midseason all-America Honorable Mention.  Fryar finished 2023 with a 70.8 overall PFF grade.  Great height 6’6”.  Finished with a 70.8 PFF grade.  Gave up a team high 5 sacks but did earn a 77.2 run blocking grade and a 71.2 pass blocking grade. ·         LG Rush Reimer (Cal) – In 2023 Reimer earned first-team All-Big Sky Conference at LG with an overall 75.8 PFF Grade (D1-T8) at Montana State.  See how he does against better CFB competition.  Project goes UDFA much like Jake Kubas (7) (NY Giants), Ross Palmer (3), and (2) Donny Ventrelli (Bears).  Could be the next Mason McCormick (6) drafted by the Steelers P119 in the 2024 NFL draft.  Montana State used a lot of Inside Zone runs.  Cal has Reimer listed as backup LT for 2024. ·         RT/OG Grey Zabel (North Dakota State) 6’6” 296 pounds.  Zabel finished 2023 with an overall 79.3 PFF Grade as an OG.  Finished 10th among other listed tackles last season.  As a guard would have been 4th best D1.  Zabel started all 15 games in 2023 with 3 at guard and 12 at RT. ·         RB Harrison Waylee (Wyoming) – In 2023 clocked 21.8 mph in Week 4 T18 fastest player. ·         RB/KR Lan Larison (UC Davis) finished 2023 tied 7th overall FCS RB with an overall 89.2 PFF Grade (R5) in D1.  On 178 carries rushed for 1101 yards scoring 13 TDS while adding two more through the air on 21 REC for 198 yards.  Larison was the 2023 Big Sky Offensive Player of the Year.  In 2021 averaged 29.91 yards as a kick returner and 21.9 yards in 2022. ·         SWR/RB/KR/PR Chris Tyree (ND) 4.29s-forty speed excellent 3.95s shuttle (HS) and 38” vertical (HS).  In 2023 Week 9 clocked 21.0 mph. ·         WRX/Z Bo Belquist (North Dakota) 2023 overall 88.6 PFF Grade.  For D1 graded out as one of the top 10 WRs behind Hayden Hatten 86.1 whom the Seahawks added as an UDFA. ·         SWR Jacob De Jesus (UNLV) – best PR/KR #3 in PR and #13 in KR.  De Jesus was a top nomination to win the Jet Award in 2023 who was given to Zachariah Branch (USC). ·         WR-X Dymere Miller (Rutgers) – 2023 College Football FCS All-America Team with Monmouth.  Miller finished as the best receiver (D1) in 2023 with a 92.3 PFF grade (only behind Nabers).  Monmouth ran an inside zone with three different concepts in its base A gap zone.  Also pinched in as a kickoff returner with success (13.67 and 12.5 avgs). ·         WR Isaac TeSlaa (Arkansas) – Great Midwest American Conference Offensive Player of the Year in 2022 and received Honorable Mention All-American.  Strengths are ball tracking, hands, athleticism, 50/50 extraordinaire. ·         LEdge Aaron Lewis (Rutgers) - 2022 PFF Weeks 6 and 12 honors.  A disappointing 2023 season compared to 2022 grading 10 points lower.  (75.9 in 2023 compared to 85.5 in 2022).  Poor run-defense grade of 59.8 but was still an elite pass rusher.  His 91.5 pass-rushing grade since 2022 ranks 10th among all FBS edge defenders and his 18.7% pass-rush win rate places 11th in Power Five.  Needs to improve his run game. ·         Jack OLB/RDE Steve Linton (Baylor) – Linton transferred to Baylor from Texas Tech.  Injury prone, in 2023 suffered a broken thumb in August, sprained ankle in Big 12 opener vs West Virginia, aggravated it the following week then missed the last four games of regular season with back problems.  72% tackling, 88% pass rush, 61% run defense, 72% coverage.  Decent 4.62s-forty speed and 6’5” 235 pounds. ·         NCB Yam Banks (Ole’ Miss) - Made 2022 PFF College All-America Second Team while playing at South Alabama.  For 2024 listed as backup.  In 2022 Banks was a first-team All-Sun Belt pick and third team in 2023.  In 45 games, Banks racked up 147 TOT, 7 INT (6 in 2022 T3 in nation). ·         LCB Tommi Hill (Nebraska) – 4.55s forty speed.  In 2023 had an outstanding QB rating when targeted of 38.6.  With another solid year Hill could move up.  ·         FS Saiku White (Lafayette) - In 2023 White moved from SS to FS and had a career year with a final 2023 defense grade 91.4 best for 2nd, pass rush grade 74.4, a 90.7 coverage grade 4th best, and an 80.7 run defense grade 98th.   Team Captain. Achieved a 3.75 GPA in 2023. ·         LS Byron Floyd (PITT) – Floyds 81.7 grade this season leads all FBS LS.  Of his 41 LS on both punts/kicks only one has been charted as off-target.  Does have ties to Colts new DL coach.  Luke Rhodes, age 32, signed a 4-year contract extension on 09/23.  ·         LS Nick Barcelos (Nevada) - 2023 college football midseason all-America Second Team as a long snapper – Luke Rhodes signed a 4-year extension with the Colts September 8th, 2023.
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