Combine measurements Thread

[Defjamz26]

They’re up guys. I’ll do my best with these Twitter links.

 

Unsure how to post the whole thread. Maybe @stitches could help

[stitches]

1 minute ago, Defjamz26 said:

They’re up guys. I’ll do my best with these Twitter links.

 

Unsure how to post the whole thread. Maybe @stitches could help

 

I don't know how to. I just copy them one by one. 

[Defjamz26]

 

[stitches]

Just now, Defjamz26 said:

 

Damn... those are short arms...  not sure it matters much for TE... but... yeah... 

[chad72]

Henry Ruggs is getting some press based on hand measurements:

 

https://247sports.com/Article/Henry-Ruggs-NFL-Combine-hand-measurements-Alabama-Crimson-Tide-2020-draft-144198094/

 

Jake Fromm, is not wowing anyone after the hand measurements, at least based on this article:

 

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2020-nfl-combine-jordan-love-the-big-winner-as-quarterbacks-weigh-in-and-get-measured/

 

[Defjamz26]

 

 

 

[stitches]

Just now, chad72 said:

Henry Ruggs is getting some press based on hand measurements:

 

https://247sports.com/Article/Henry-Ruggs-NFL-Combine-hand-measurements-Alabama-Crimson-Tide-2020-draft-144198094/

 

Jake Fromm, is not wowing anyone after the hand measurements, at least based on this article:

 

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2020-nfl-combine-jordan-love-the-big-winner-as-quarterbacks-weigh-in-and-get-measured/

 

I've been watching more of Ruggs last couple of days. That tape is filthy! No wonder some NFL evaluators think he might actually get drafted before Lamb or Jeudy... or both? 

[chad72]

1 minute ago, stitches said:

I've been watching more of Ruggs last couple of days. That tape is filthy! No wonder some NFL evaluators think he might actually get drafted before Lamb or Jeudy... or both? 

 

Ruggs is the closest to Tyreek Hill in the draft, IMO, in terms of speed based talent.

[Defjamz26]

 

What a specimen 

 

 

ouch. That’s a bad measurement for Moss

[stitches]

 

^the QB measurements from the above article... Damn. Fromm failed the hand size measurement. I'm not sure it matters for me, though... Burrow on the edge too... 

 

Love has the largest hands... we knew that from the Senior Bowl measurements... but all his measurements just scream "NFL QB"

[chad72]

Just now, stitches said:

 

^the QB measurements from the above article... Damn. Fromm failed the hand size measurement. I'm not sure it matters for me, though... 

 

His hands are just 1/8th of an inch shorter than Joe Burrow but just like 6 feet was the height taboo for QBs, now 9 inch hands are that.  

 

Just takes 1 team to fall in love with him though.

[Defjamz26]

 

Very nice measurables for Albert O

 

 

 

[stitches]

4 minutes ago, chad72 said:

 

His hands are just 1/8th of an inch shorter than Joe Burrow but just like 6 feet was the height taboo for QBs, now 9 inch hands are that.  

 

Just takes 1 team to fall in love with him though.

Yep... like people say - it's not a problem unless it's a problem. I haven't noticed it being a problem for either of them (ball security, etc.)... I guess... I wonder if teams are worried about the center-QB exchange. Most of those QBs have not taken many snaps under center. Although... Fromm actually did do it a bit in Georgia. 

[chad72]

7 minutes ago, stitches said:

Yep... like people say - it's not a problem unless it's a problem. I haven't noticed it being a problem for either of them (ball security, etc.)... I guess... I wonder if teams are worried about the center-QB exchange. Most of those QBs have not done that much. Although... Fromm actually did do it a bit in Georgia. 

 

Some coaches that play in cold weather and outdoor condition oriented divisions tend to play it safe though. Goff's struggles in cold weather are documented but then another California QB in Aaron Rodgers seems to be at home in Green Bay.  

 

Here are some articles that talk about it:

 

https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2018/3/1/17066910/nfl-combine-hand-measurement-quarterback-draft

 

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2019/02/nfl-combine-kyler-murray-hand-size-doesnt-matter

 

[stitches]

There are some interesting TEs.... this TE class is better than I initially thought. It doesn't have some elite talent, but you can probably get a good prospect in day 2 - early day 3 range. 

[Defjamz26]

 

 

 

 

 

That concludes the TEs. Some nice long guys in this class.

[Defjamz26]

2 minutes ago, stitches said:

There are some interesting TEs.... this TE class is better than I initially thought. It doesn't have some elite talent, but you can probably get a good prospect in day 2 - early day 3 range. 

Agreed. Day 3 is where I think the Colts strike, but I could see Ballard taking someone who falls in the 3rd round. Thanks for posting the QBs too. At least the one that matter lol. Saved me the trouble.

[chad72]

Patriots fans' fan favorite is Thaddeus Moss, son of Randy Moss, at a position of need for them, no secret there.  

[stitches]

1 minute ago, Defjamz26 said:

Agreed. Day 3 is where I think the Colts strike, but I could see Ballard taking someone who falls in the 3rd round. Thanks for posting the QBs too. At least the one that matter lol. Saved me the trouble.

I tried to find a site that has them all but I can't seem to find one. 

 

BTW here's the schedule for all position groups:

 

 

[Defjamz26]

Skipping QBs since Stitches gave us the numbers on the important ones. Time for receivers 

 

Crazy wingspan for a shorter guy.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I know he’s a board favorite and his weigh in did not disappoint. He’s long everywhere.

[stitches]

Tee Higgins with a monster measurement:

 

 

 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

I  think Claypool will end up playing TE in the NFL.

[Defjamz26]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Tall but short arms 

[coltsblue1844]

26 minutes ago, chad72 said:

 

His hands are just 1/8th of an inch shorter than Joe Burrow but just like 6 feet was the height taboo for QBs, now 9 inch hands are that.  

 

Just takes 1 team to fall in love with him though.

So Fromm is basically 6'2 220lbs with the same size hands as Joe Burrow (#1 pick).  Not sure why people are acting like he's failed some kind of measurement test lol   He's the same size as Tony Romo, but Romo had SMALLER hands 

[Defjamz26]

 

 

 

Best wingspan of any WR. He’s got OL arms

 

 

 

Didn’t know he was so big.

 

 

 

 

[stitches]

Binjimen Victor with real nice measurements too(he's one of my late round favorites... he did really well at the Shrine game too):

 

 

[stitches]

Here are all the measurements by PFN:

 

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/2020-nfl-scouting-combine-weigh-in-measurements/

 

 

[Defjamz26]

 

 

It was discussed earlier but yeah those are huge mitts.

 

Built like a RB tbh. 
 

 

Surprisingly short arms for a bigger guy

 

 

 

My personal favorite.

 

 

 

 

[stitches]

Something of note - it seems like Chase Claypool is trying to make move to TE(those are the rumors - that he's open to it). He's gained 10 pounds from the Senior Bowl until the Combine and is now 238. I like this. I've been saying he's a potential TE conversion prospect for a while. 

 

Another one that I think is a WR to TE conversion candidate is Juwan Johnson from Oregon. He's real big... very good measurements and if he gained 20 pounds he might turn into a good TE prospect, rather than an undraftable plodding WR. 

[Defjamz26]

 

 

 

Former 5-star recruit. He’s one to watch.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 And that concludes the receivers 

[RollerColt]

Thank you @Defjamz26 and @stitches for the posts! Those who are playing the Gavin mock draft should take note! 

[chad72]

20 minutes ago, stitches said:

Something of note - it seems like Chase Claypool is trying to make move to TE(those are the rumors - that he's open to it). He's gained 10 pounds from the Senior Bowl until the Combine and is now 238. I like this. I've been saying he's a potential TE conversion prospect for a while. 

 

Another one that I think is a WR to TE conversion candidate is Juwan Johnson from Oregon. He's real big... very good measurements and if he gained 20 pounds he might turn into a good TE prospect, rather than an undraftable plodding WR. 

 

What about Collin Johnson converting to TE?

[chad72]

This draft is deep, real deep on the WR front and to an extent on the TE front too, we could double dip for WRs and TEs, IMO.

 

I am placing the over/under on both WRs and TEs drafted by the Colts as 3. I feel we will draft 3 pass catchers in this draft at least, not counting RBs. What do you think?

[stitches]

3 minutes ago, chad72 said:

 

What about Collin Johnson converting to TE?

Possible, but I want to see how well he runs. I still harbor hopes that he might be good enough to play as a WR. 

[Defjamz26]

1 hour ago, stitches said:

Possible, but I want to see how well he runs. I still harbor hopes that he might be good enough to play as a WR. 

I didn’t like how small his arms were. That’s probably why scouts say he doesn’t play up to his size and Darnay Holmes was able to lock him up. TE would be better for him.

[DougDew]

Fromm passed the height test, actually just a hair under 6.2.  Hand size is a concern.  

[chad72]

19 minutes ago, DougDew said:

Fromm passed the height test, actually just a hair under 6.2.  Hand size is a concern.  

 

Maybe Fromm can grow his hands like Brandon Allen did, no I am not kidding , Brandon Allen from Arkansas, another SEC school, underwent surgery to enlarge his hands in 2016, he plays back up QB for the Broncos now, read this:

 

https://www.si.com/nfl/2016/02/25/nfl-combine-quarterbacks-brandon-allen-hands

[twfish]

Man Justin Jefferson came in way under. He was reported 6'3 and to come in at 6'1, wow.

[stitches]

32 minutes ago, twfish said:

Man Justin Jefferson came in way under. He was reported 6'3 and to come in at 6'1, wow.

Yeah... he's a possession slot IMO. Very reliable, but somewhat limited. 

[twfish]

6 minutes ago, stitches said:

Yeah... he's a possession slot IMO. Very reliable, but somewhat limited. 

IDK about being a possession wr, he had a ton of big plays in college. I am more concerned how he will do when the best college qb is not throwing to him. Also a team isn't going to spend a high pick on a slot WR so what will happen is he will be drafted super high and a team is going to try him out wide and he is going to bust. I will be curious how fast he runs but him being2 inches shorter than listed removes the intrigue for me.