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[FireJimCaldwell]

Very true but it doesn't have to be a package deal, it would just be very sweet if it was.

I don't know any more than anyone else I just don't see Denver and outdoors.

The weather isn't as bad as many seem to think.

2009-2010-2011
Month Games Avg Temp
Sept 5  80.4
OCT 6  54.8
NOV 6  50.8
DEC 4  55.0
JAN 4  38.3
25  56.4

9/20/2009 Reg CLE 82
10/4/2009 Reg DAL 55
10/11/2009 Reg NE 30
11/9/2009 Reg PIT 55
11/22/2009 Reg SD 51
11/26/2009 Reg NYG 57
12/20/2009 Reg OAK 57
1/3/2010 Reg KC 36

9/19/2010 Reg SEA 91
9/26/2010 Reg IND 85
10/17/2010 Reg NYJ 73
10/24/2010 Reg OAK 63
11/14/2010 Reg KC 43
11/28/2010 Reg STL 45
12/26/2010 Reg HOU 50
1/2/2011 Reg SD 42

9/12/2011 Reg OAK 75
9/18/2011 Reg CIN 69
10/9/2011 Reg SD 52
10/30/2011 Reg DET 56
11/17/2012 Reg NYJ 54
12/11/2011 Reg CHI 50
12/18/2011 Reg NE 63
1/1/2012 Reg KC 35
1/8/2012 PS Pitt 40

1 game below freezing in 3 years.. Of course that doesn't mean that the next 3 years they don't have 10.

[Jules]

I wouldn't root for the Broncos if you paid me. I don't care who is on that team.

I dislike most AFC teams strongly.

[jemack]

I wonder if Denver's cold climate slows down nerve regeneration?

[Jules]

We had a top 5 offense for the whole decade? How isn't that scary. We just never had a defense except once, 2007, our playoff run and the following regular season. Too bad they fell off in the playoffs.

We had a pretty good D in 2005 too.

Our D's don't get as hammered as some think in the playoffs. If the Colts ran the ball better or more in some playoff losses I think they could have controlled TOP better and made it easier on the D too.

[oldunclemark]

The weather isn't as bad as many seem to think.

2009-2010-2011
Month Games Avg Temp
Sept 5  80.4
OCT 6  54.8
NOV 6  50.8
DEC 4  55.0
JAN 4  38.3
25  56.4

9/20/2009 Reg CLE 82
10/4/2009 Reg DAL 55
10/11/2009 Reg NE 30
11/9/2009 Reg PIT 55
11/22/2009 Reg SD 51
11/26/2009 Reg NYG 57
12/20/2009 Reg OAK 57
1/3/2010 Reg KC 36

9/19/2010 Reg SEA 91
9/26/2010 Reg IND 85
10/17/2010 Reg NYJ 73
10/24/2010 Reg OAK 63
11/14/2010 Reg KC 43
11/28/2010 Reg STL 45
12/26/2010 Reg HOU 50
1/2/2011 Reg SD 42

9/12/2011 Reg OAK 75
9/18/2011 Reg CIN 69
10/9/2011 Reg SD 52
10/30/2011 Reg DET 56
11/17/2012 Reg NYJ 54
12/11/2011 Reg CHI 50
12/18/2011 Reg NE 63
1/1/2012 Reg KC 35
1/8/2012 PS Pitt 40

1 game below freezing in 3 years.. Of course that doesn't mean that the next 3 years they don't have 10.

That's interesting/. I thought Denver was colder than that.....That's not bad for a passing attack..

[Jules]

The Titants are wanting to enter the discussion.

http://www.tennessea...RTS01/120311018

That and 30 million of cap room could be dangerous.

Barf. I heard this on the radio.

[sb2001]

yea thats good, i wonder how many broncos fans prefer Tebow now lol

Who?

[Fx Stryker]

We had a pretty good D in 2005 too.

Our D's don't get as hammered as some think in the playoffs. If the Colts ran the ball better or more in some playoff losses I think they could have controlled TOP better and made it easier on the D too.

Only if we didn't have Vander-drunk on the team.

[Jules]

Only if we didn't have Vander-drunk on the team.

I try to forget that moment. Man oh man........the whole ending to that game.

That was too good a team to lose that soon in the playoffs. Really the most heartbreaking season and it started with the death of Dungy's boy.

[Fx Stryker]

I try to forget that moment. Man oh man........the whole ending to that game.

That was too good a team to lose that soon in the playoffs. Really the most heartbreaking season and it started with the death of Dungy's boy.

I know. If we just won we would've played the Broncos, who we always had success against.

[mahagga73]

Woody Paige of the denver post reports that one of the leverage points the Bronco's are pushing is they have lots of cap room and would be willing to bring in Reggie Wayne, Dallas Clark, Jeff Saturday and Joseph Addai, and perhaps even Pierre Garcon.

Looks like the Colts are heading west.

They can have them

[FireJimCaldwell]

The weather isn't as bad as many seem to think.

2009-2010-2011
Month Games Avg Temp
Sept 5  80.4
OCT 6  54.8
NOV 6  50.8
DEC 4  55.0
JAN 4  38.3
25  56.4

9/20/2009 Reg CLE 82
10/4/2009 Reg DAL 55
10/11/2009 Reg NE 30
11/9/2009 Reg PIT 55
11/22/2009 Reg SD 51
11/26/2009 Reg NYG 57
12/20/2009 Reg OAK 57
1/3/2010 Reg KC 36

9/19/2010 Reg SEA 91
9/26/2010 Reg IND 85
10/17/2010 Reg NYJ 73
10/24/2010 Reg OAK 63
11/14/2010 Reg KC 43
11/28/2010 Reg STL 45
12/26/2010 Reg HOU 50
1/2/2011 Reg SD 42

9/12/2011 Reg OAK 75
9/18/2011 Reg CIN 69
10/9/2011 Reg SD 52
10/30/2011 Reg DET 56
11/17/2012 Reg NYJ 54
12/11/2011 Reg CHI 50
12/18/2011 Reg NE 63
1/1/2012 Reg KC 35
1/8/2012 PS Pitt 40

1 game below freezing in 3 years.. Of course that doesn't mean that the next 3 years they don't have 10.

Kansas City

Kansas City  Games Avg Temp.
2009-2010-2011
Sept 4  70.0
OCT 7  57.0
NOV 5  56.4
DEC 7  35.9
JAN 2  28.0
Totals 25  50.7

9/20/2009 OAK 72
10/4/2009 NYG 59
10/11/2009 DAL 40
10/25/2009 SD 58
11/22/2009 PIT 55
12/6/2009 DEN 37
12/13/2009 BUF 42
12/20/2009 CLE 39
9/13/2010 SD 78
9/26/2010 SF 55
10/24/2010 JAX 63
10/31/2010 BUF 51
11/21/2010 ARI 66
12/5/2010 DEN 26
12/26/2010 TEN 19
1/2/2011 OAK 30
1/9/2011 BLT 26
9/11/2011 BUF 75
10/2/2011 MIN 65
10/31/2011 SD 63
11/6/2011 MIA 62
11/13/2011 DEN 67
11/27/2011 PIT 32
12/18/2011 GB 50
12/24/2011 OAK 38

5 games at freezing or below.

[mahagga73]

Colts were always top 10 in scoring D before about 2005,but PM lovers seem to forget that.I love PM too but to say it was the defense fault they didn't win more than one is misleading.

[Jules]

I know. If we just won we would've played the Broncos, who we always had success against.

For sure I felt the same way. Get by the Steelers and then Broncos at home, very confident the Colts were headed to the SB if they got by Pittsburgh.

[supremecoltsfan300]

Colts were always top 10 in scoring D before about 2005,but PM lovers seem to forget that.I love PM too but to say it was the defense fault they didn't win more than one is misleading.

that's not true at all. only in 2002, were they top 10 in scoring d. They were seven.

[Fx Stryker]

Colts were always top 10 in scoring D before about 2005,but PM lovers seem to forget that.I love PM too but to say it was the defense fault they didn't win more than one is misleading.

Before the 2005 season we had 1 defense in top 10 for points, 2002. 41-0 vs the Jets do not seem like a great defensive team.

[Fx Stryker]

For sure I felt the same way. Get by the Steelers and then Broncos at home, very confident the Colts were headed to the SB if they got by Pittsburgh.

I was so cocky that year. I was telling everyone the Colts were going undefeated. I lost that bet to my History teacher.

[mahagga73]

Before the 2005 season we had 1 defense in top 10 for points, 2002. 41-0 vs the Jets do not seem like a great defensive team.

I don't think so,check the stats.Funny how you left out the fact they didn't score in that game or the games in NE Pm was outplayed in and they got whomped.

[supremecoltsfan300]

And if the defense was better we probaby would have won more. but i dont put it all on d the receivers sometimes would get manhandled or make key drops. sometimes the o-line was just horrible and early in manning's playoff career he wasnt the goat.

[Jules]

Sometimes you also just open up with the wrong opponent. With the Steelers....bad timing in 2005. They fell short the year before and were hitting their stride. In many ways the Steelers looked like this years Giants knocking off the well rested and offensively powerful Packers also who had a son die on the coaching staff. (but our D was better then this years Packers was)

And SD a few times for the first game was also a bad matchup.

[Fx Stryker]

I don't think so,check the stats.Funny how you left out the fact they didn't score in that game or the games in NE Pm was outplayed in and they got whomped.

I did, and you referred to defense so that is all I presented.

[supremecoltsfan300]

I don't think so,check the stats.Funny how you left out the fact they didn't score in that game or the games in NE Pm was outplayed in and they got whomped.

lol we did check the stats. maybe u should? and like i said, peyton wasnt the goat at that point, but the recievers did certianly get manhandled in some of those games.

[FireJimCaldwell]

Colts were always top 10 in scoring D before about 2005,but PM lovers seem to forget that.I love PM too but to say it was the defense fault they didn't win more than one is misleading.

Don't let facts get in your way.

1998 28
1999 16
2000 15
2001 31
2002 7
2003 20
2004 19
2005 2
2006 23
2007 1
2008 7
2009 8
2010 23
Average 15
% Top 10 38%

% Top 5  15%

During his tenure they barely were better than the NFL average.

[supremecoltsfan300]

Sometimes you also just open up with the wrong opponent. With the Steelers....bad timing in 2005. They fell short the year before and were hitting their stride. In many ways the Steelers looked like this years Giants knocking off the well rested and offensively powerful Packers also who had a son die on the coaching staff. (but our D was better then this years Packers was)

And SD a few times for the first game was also a bad matchup.

yea match-ups were huge. i think anytime we had to go against a top 10 offense we got smoked. and our special teams always wre especially bad in the playoffs, those charger games with our special teams gives me nightmares.

[mahagga73]

We had a top 5 offense for the whole decade? How isn't that scary. We just never had a defense except once, 2007, our playoff run and the following regular season. Too bad they fell off in the playoffs.

top ten defense in scoring in 02,05,07,08,and 09 yet 1 SB win.Sorry your theory don't fly.

[mahagga73]

Don't let facts get in your way.

1998 28
1999 16
2000 15
2001 31
2002 7
2003 20
2004 19
2005 2
2006 23
2007 1
2008 7
2009 8
2010 23
Average 15
% Top 10 38%

% Top 5  15%

During his tenure they barely were better than the NFL average.

top ten in scoring,which is the only stat that counts,in 5 years,02,05,07,08,09.Sorry game over.

[Fx Stryker]

Don't let facts get in your way.

1998 28
1999 16
2000 15
2001 31
2002 7
2003 20
2004 19
2005 2
2006 23
2007 1
2008 7
2009 8
2010 23
Average 15
% Top 10 38%

% Top 5  15%

During his tenure they barely were better than the NFL average.

I've always wondered where you get your stats. I like how you can copy and paste them. I can't seem to be able to do that with pro-football-reference.com.

[supremecoltsfan300]

top ten defense in scoring in 02,05,07,08,and 09 yet 1 SB win.Sorry your theory don't fly.

during those seasons we were undefeated for most of it, so what is your point? Our defense and our special teams failed in the playoffs.

[likm]

Really, because they were all together for the last 9 years and the Colts only won one SB. How scary can that be?

Nope er wrong. Try again after thinking before posting.

[mahagga73]

that's not true at all. only in 2002, were they top 10 in scoring d. They were seven.

I corrected myself,but after 04 they were top 10 5 times yet just 1 SB win.Explain?

[Fx Stryker]

top ten defense in scoring in 02,05,07,08,and 09 yet 1 SB win.Sorry your theory don't fly.

I mean you can say that, but in the playoffs those defense never showed. Peyton hasn't always been spot on either. I'm not exempting him, but he can't always be perfect. For example our best defense, 07, couldn't stop Billy Volek. Who is Billy Volek, and what has he done past that '07 playoff game?

[FireJimCaldwell]

top ten in scoring,which is the only stat that counts,in 5 years,02,05,07,08,09.Sorry game over.

You lost.. 38% isn't "always" Thanks for playing.

[mahagga73]

during those seasons we were undefeated for most of it, so what is your point? Our defense and our special teams failed in the playoffs.

Pm failed a lot too but you people won't admit it.His playoff stats are good but far off Montana and Bradys,those are facts.period.He didn't play well enough to win more than one and the one we did it was the defense that did it.i know it hurts you all,and I love PM too,but a couple NE games,and a few other games,he just didn't play elite and he had a lot of elite weapons

[Jules]

Team sport. If the team loses in the playoffs you are allowed to put blame on the offense too. And the QB. It's not like the offense gets a free pass either for all the big game losses. Can't put it all on the defense and special teams all the time.

Team sport.

The offense has had icky moments as well.

[FireJimCaldwell]

I've always wondered where you get your stats. I like how you can copy and paste them. I can't seem to be able to do that with pro-football-reference.com.

Typically i'll import and edit them with excel to make them more legible.

[mahagga73]

You lost.. 38% isn't "always" Thanks for playing.

no thank you,38 is good enough to win more than 1 SB.Point is,it was the offense fault as much as the D.period,end of story.

[FireJimCaldwell]

Pm failed a lot too but you people won't admit it.His playoff stats are good but far off Montana and Bradys,those are facts.period.He didn't play well enough to win more than one and the one we did it was the defense that did it.i know it hurts you all,and I love PM too,but a couple NE games,and a few other games,he just didn't play elite and he had a lot of elite weapons

His playoff "stats" exceed Brady's.

0/2

[Jules]

Pm failed a lot too but you people won't admit it.His playoff stats are good but far off Montana and Bradys,those are facts.period.He didn't play well enough to win more than one and the one we did it was the defense that did it.i know it hurts you all,and I love PM too,but a couple NE games,and a few other games,he just didn't play elite and he had a lot of elite weapons

I don't think Peyton is a great big game QB. It is not something that I love to say but it's the truth to me. He is consistent and and all time great though. His little brother is a clutch big gamer though in two SB runs. This wasn't even a great Giants team either that won the SB this year or in 2007 but they pulled it together and Eli contributed with big plays when needed in road playoff games in hostile environments and in both SB wins.

It's not always about the numbers. It's about making those key plays on offense sometimes to ice the game or get the much needed score in a big game.

[mahagga73]

Team sport. If the team loses in the playoffs you are allowed to put blame on the offense too. And the QB. It's not like the offense gets a free pass either for all the big game losses. Can't put it all on the defense and special teams all the time.

Team sport.

The offense has had icky moments as well.

you will have a hard time finding anybody in Indianapolis who would admit that it wasn'teveryone elses fault except PM they only won one SB.Facts be darned

[LUVTHESHOE]

Woody Paige of the denver post reports that one of the leverage points the Bronco's are pushing is they have lots of cap room and would be willing to bring in Reggie Wayne, Dallas Clark, Jeff Saturday and Joseph Addai, and perhaps even Pierre Garcon.

Looks like the Colts are heading west.

That would great for the broncos,if it were 5 years ago!