oldunclemark Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said: Yeah, it makes for the highlights on ESPN. The dramatics also get a lot of fouls called no matter if they were real fouls. The thing that irritates me is when the Pacers play like who they play instead of how they are capable. I guess without Vic and Sabonis.....it would have been a big upset for us to win this.. we got very, very little off the bench Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, oldunclemark said: I guess without Vic and Sabonis.....it would have been a big upset for us to win this.. we got very, very little off the bench Yeah without those 2 it would be an upset. Sabonis would've helped tonight. Bucks are really good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldunclemark Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 117-98......on the dark side Myles had a career high 17 rebounds ..but we wont beat anybody shooting 37 3s.....we arent that kind of team 42-24...and on to the big one: Philadelphia Sunday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTC Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 I hate to be a Negative Nancy, but I don’t see us competing with the top dogs of the East (Boston, Philly, Toronto, and Milwaukee) when it comes to the playoffs. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTC Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 6 minutes ago, oldunclemark said: 117-98......on the dark side Myles had a career high 17 rebounds ..but we wont beat anybody shooting 37 3s.....we arent that kind of team 42-24...and on to the big one: Philadelphia Sunday Agree with how we were going against our identity. That falls on the coaching staff, IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Well I never said we should shoot 37 3's (of course that isn't our identity) but to beat that team you better make a majority of the 3's you take was my point. Like 12-20 for example and defend their 3's and not turn it over. You won't beat teams like the Warriors, Bucks, or Rockets if you do not make 3's. That is common sense no matter your identity. As much as I like the Bucks because they are a small market team and much like us = built the right way, they will get squashed like a bug if they play the Warriors in the Finals. Giannis will have to deal with Durant so they are screwed. Curry will have a field day in a series like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldunclemark Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 10 minutes ago, MTC said: Agree with how we were going against our identity. That falls on the coaching staff, IMO. I have to agree. I wonder what our game plan was. They have Brooke Lopez and 78-year-old Pau Gasol at center and we have Myles at the 3-point line. Even O'Quinn was shooting mid range Js. That seemed to be by design....and, to me, that's a bad design. I know Myles is not a good low-post center but Brooke Lopez is going to stop him? In the low post you get fouled and you get free throws and you slow the game We badly missed Sabonis...maybe he can play Sunday But Sunday, we go against a low-post Monster in Embid. We played well defensively tonight until the final few minutes but our offense was a wing and a prayer. 37 3s is not what we do. But again..2 of our top 3 scorers were out....and Milwaukee is in first place. I cant be too critical Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 24 minutes ago, MTC said: I hate to be a Negative Nancy, but I don’t see us competing with the top dogs of the East (Boston, Philly, Toronto, and Milwaukee) when it comes to the playoffs. You are probably right and just being realistic. Once Vic went down I thought the same thing. Take anyone's best player away from any team and that is just how it is. Take Giannis off the Bucks, take Embiid of the Sixers, take Leonard off of the Raptors, those teams become average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldunclemark Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 11 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said: Well I never said we should shoot 37 3's (of course that isn't our identity) but to beat that team you better make a majority of the 3's you take was my point. Like 12-20 for example and defend their 3's and not turn it over. You won't beat teams like the Warriors, Bucks, or Rockets if you do not make 3's. That is common sense no matter your identity. As much as I like the Bucks because they are a small market team and much like us = built the right way, they will get squashed like a bug if they play the Warriors in the Finals. Giannis will have to deal with Durant so they are screwed. Curry will have a field day in a series like that. But WE wont beat ANYBODY shooting 37 3s.....is my point. We don't have a half dozen distance shooters... You don't outshoot Golden State and Houston. You slow the game down and get in the low post. The game slows down in the playoffs. Nobody hits a majority of their 3s// Milwaukee will have problems with Philadelphia because they don't have a matchup for Embid and they do have long range shooters. I wasn't impressed with the Bucks. I'm still not sure they'd beat us in a 7-game series 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldunclemark Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 31 minutes ago, MTC said: I hate to be a Negative Nancy, but I don’t see us competing with the top dogs of the East (Boston, Philly, Toronto, and Milwaukee) when it comes to the playoffs. That's probably why we need to hold the 3-seed so we can play Detroit or Brooklyn in the first round Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 minute ago, oldunclemark said: But WE wont beat ANYBODY shooting 37 3s.....is my point. We don't have a half dozen distance shooters... You don't outshoot Golden State and Houston. You slow the game down and get in the low post. The game slows down in the playoffs. Nobody hits a majority of their 3s// Milwaukee will have problems with Philadelphia because they don't have a matchup for Embid and they do have long range shooters. I wasn't impressed with the Bucks. I'm still not sure they'd beat us in a 7-game series If we had Vic I think we could win the East but we don't so it is a moot point. I still think we have played well without him. We also have a fun, unselfish team to watch but without Vic we can't beat the elite teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldunclemark Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said: If we had Vic I think we could win the East but we don't so it is a moot point. I still think we have played well without him. We also have a fun, unselfish team to watch but without Vic we can't beat the elite teams. I am not ready to say that with certainty just yet... Since Vic has been out, we missed Myles for 5 games..Evans for 4 and now Sabonis for 4. With all hands (except Vic) on deck, I think we can pull an upset. You know how I am...Its not fun unless we're winning and if we dont win a playoff series its not a good year I still see 50 wins 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, oldunclemark said: I am not ready to say that with certainty just yet... Since Vic has been out, we missed Myles for 5 games..Evans for 4 and now Sabonis for 4. With all hands (except Vic) on deck, I think we can pull an upset. You know how I am...Its not fun unless we're winning and if we dont win a playoff series its not a good year I still see 50 wins Had we had Sabonis tonight the game would've been much closer I will say that. If we play the Nets in the 1st round I have us winning that. If we have HCA vs Boston we have a chance but it will be tough if they start playing like they are capable of. They are starting to play better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldunclemark Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said: Had we had Sabonis tonight the game would've been much closer I will say that. If we play the Nets in the 1st round I have us winning that. If we have HCA vs Boston we have a chance but it will be tough if they start playing like they are capable of. They are starting to play better. 24 hours ago...…..Boston 125, Golden State 97... ….That's how they played last year...... I agree..I dont know if we beat Boston now ..and I dont know if Philadelphia beats them 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, oldunclemark said: 24 hours ago...…..Boston 125, Golden State 97... ….That's how they played last year...... I agree..I dont know if we beat Boston now ..and I dont know if Philadelphia beats them Before the season started I had the Warriors vs Celtics in the Finals. It may still happen. I had us in the Conference Finals losing to the Celtics but Vic's injury screwed me up there. I thought the Bucks would be good but not this good, they are surprisingly borderline great. The Sixers are missing something IMO, good chemistry perhaps? The Celtics own them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldunclemark Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Yeah, I don't want to say the Bucks aren't good,. But like you said, Giannis cant score outside the lane and they are a little old and light at center. The oddity of Kyrie Irving 'messing up' the Celtics is not something I saw coming. And I'll bet he's not there next year no matter how far they go. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 7 minutes ago, oldunclemark said: Yeah, I don't want to say the Bucks aren't good,. But like you said, Giannis cant score outside the lane and they are a little old and light at center. The oddity of Kyrie Irving 'messing up' the Celtics is not something I saw coming. And I'll bet he's not there next year no matter how far they go. If Leonard plays like he did 2 years ago, Toronto could even win the East. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Posted March 8, 2019 Author Share Posted March 8, 2019 Winning Sunday is our only chance to have a shot at keeping the #3 seed. I'm proud and bummed at the teams performance this season. Mostly proud. They really have come together and played well. The "bummed" part comes from Turner. While he is doing decent, I was hoping this would be a breakout year for him. Especially after Vic went down. He has been better this season, but not really that much. It seems we'll be going into another off season saying that next year could be the year that we see a 20/10 stat line. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldunclemark Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 4 hours ago, Myles said: Winning Sunday is our only chance to have a shot at keeping the #3 seed. I'm proud and bummed at the teams performance this season. Mostly proud. They really have come together and played well. The "bummed" part comes from Turner. While he is doing decent, I was hoping this would be a breakout year for him. Especially after Vic went down. He has been better this season, but not really that much. It seems we'll be going into another off season saying that next year could be the year that we see a 20/10 stat line. I hear you, Myles' Your rim protection is great but you're still averaging 13-14 points and 6-7 rebounds a game. You just has to get stronger so you doesnt get pushed around. Maybe next year. I keep trying to remember, you're just 23 years old but our backup center cannot average more points, rebounds and assists than our starting center. Myles has to give us 20 and 10 for us to win the conference. ..and yes, with 16 games to go, we have to beat the 76ers Sunday or we wont be the '3' 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldunclemark Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 Houston 107, Philadelphia 91... 3. Pacers (42-24) 4. 76ers (41-25) 5. Boston (40-26) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedBlu8792 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 17 hours ago, oldunclemark said: I hear you, Myles' Your rim protection is great but you're still averaging 13-14 points and 6-7 rebounds a game. You just has to get stronger so you doesnt get pushed around. Maybe next year. I keep trying to remember, you're just 23 years old but our backup center cannot average more points, rebounds and assists than our starting center. Myles has to give us 20 and 10 for us to win the conference. ..and yes, with 16 games to go, we have to beat the 76ers Sunday or we wont be the '3' I still say, if they can keep working and developing Myles, he can be a Kevin Garnett type player. The kid can shoot from anywhere on the floor, however I'm with you, he can't be shooting 10+ 3's like he did the other night (I'm sure this was a huge outlier but still). He HAS to get better on the block and develop a consistent low post game. As you said in another post, he should have been killing Lopez/Gasol down low, but he opted to play outside of the paint. Until they can knock the softness out of Myles, he's going to continue being the same player. Until Myles turns that corner, if he ever does, the Pacers HAVE to find a way to keep Sabonis on the roster in the future because he's still consistently outplaying Myles on the offensive end, off the bench. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldunclemark Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 6 hours ago, BleedBlu8792 said: I still say, if they can keep working and developing Myles, he can be a Kevin Garnett type player. The kid can shoot from anywhere on the floor, however I'm with you, he can't be shooting 10+ 3's like he did the other night (I'm sure this was a huge outlier but still). He HAS to get better on the block and develop a consistent low post game. As you said in another post, he should have been killing Lopez/Gasol down low, but he opted to play outside of the paint. Until they can knock the softness out of Myles, he's going to continue being the same player. Until Myles turns that corner, if he ever does, the Pacers HAVE to find a way to keep Sabonis on the roster in the future because he's still consistently outplaying Myles on the offensive end, off the bench. There's still a lot of time...He's just turning 23 this month. But remember when Al Jefferson was here and his parttime job was to teach Myles the low post game? It didn't take. ...Is it crazy that we sign or draft a third center….a low post rebounder and back-to-the basket scorer and make Myles a full-time '4'? Or would that take him away from the basket and dim his shot blocking prowess? Its interesting you mention Garnett. Garnett played angry. Myles plays 'nice' .. I wonder if you can change that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldunclemark Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 up 44-35 at Philadelphia ....a lot of fouls but a lot of the bench so far Evans is out but Holiday is doing well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, oldunclemark said: up 44-35 at Philadelphia ....a lot of fouls but a lot of the bench so far Huge game here. Strange game so far because nobody for us is having a big game but we are playing great defense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 45-35 Indy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 The Boo Birds are out baby! Pacers up 49-35, O'Quinn for 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldunclemark Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 1 minute ago, 2006Coltsbestever said: The Boo Birds are out baby! Pacers up 49-35, O'Quinn for 2. again...the 3rd center is playing big ...Sabonis and Turner with 3 fouls each.....Embid gets away with a lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 1 minute ago, oldunclemark said: again...the 3rd center is playing big ...Sabonis and Turner with 3 fouls each.....Embid gets away with a lot I knew we wouldn't get any calls today. Not there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldunclemark Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 59-51 at the half... My;es has played just 9 minutes and Sabonis has played only 8 We're in good shape. Bogdonavic has no problem being the focus of the offense again today 11 of 19 from the foul line..we should be ahead by 15 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, oldunclemark said: 59-51 at the half... My;es has played just 9 minutes and Sabonis has played only 8 We're in good shape. Bogdonavic has no problem being the focus of the offense again today 11 of 19 from the foul line..we should be ahead by 15 I will take 59-51 for the foul trouble we have been in. We have to be careful at the beginning of the 3rd because I have feeling they will come out aggressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldunclemark Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said: I will take 59-51 for the foul trouble we have been in. We have to be careful at the beginning of the 3rd because I have feeling they will come out aggressive. I know I'm whining..but when Embid backs into Quinn its a foul on Quinn ..and when Sabonis backs into Embid, its a foul on Sabonis. What's up with that.? Aaron Holiday was ready to play...5 minutes...6 points and a steal. ..and McDermott looks like Kyle Korver out there.. well..sometimes he does 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldunclemark Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 4th on Myles,...come on...very little contact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 1 minute ago, oldunclemark said: 4th on Myles,...come on...very little contact Yeah we are getting screwed but have to play through it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldunclemark Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 4 on Sabonis....3 on Bogdonavic......wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 1 minute ago, oldunclemark said: 4 on Sabonis....3 on Bogdonavic......wow Yeah tough to win when the REFS won't let you play you play D. Turner doesn't even calls lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldunclemark Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Embid is so clumsy,...he's going to kill somebody 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, oldunclemark said: Embid is so clumsy,...he's going to kill somebody He is dirty too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldunclemark Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 12 missed free throws... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Just now, oldunclemark said: 12 missed free throws... Yep, that is our own fault and is why we may lose. Collison is usually automatic and he has even missed 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 We can't make a shot to save our lives! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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