Washington Expected To Pick Up 5th Year Option On RG3

[dw49]

I'm a bit surprised on this one. 16 mill is not chicken feed.

 

 

 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000488248/article/redskins-will-likely-pick-up-rgiiis-fifthyear-option

[csmopar]

I'm a bit surprised on this one. 16 mill is not chicken feed.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000488248/article/redskins-will-likely-pick-up-rgiiis-fifthyear-option

Yeah....I agree what the heck are they thinking. We'll see but I truly think he's done. Not only from the injury but the opponents have figured him out. He was never great with accuracy or consistent in college year to year...I don't see that changing. This smells of a stubborn owner not wanting to admit he screwed up

[dw49]

At the very least , we can say not a lot of consistency seen. He get's benched for Colt McCoy and then they spend use the 5th year option. I'm with you , maybe giving him a ceiling of a bottom tier NFL starter. 

[dw49]

I'm a bit surprised on this one. 16 mill is not chicken feed.

 

 

 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000488248/article/redskins-will-likely-pick-up-rgiiis-fifthyear-option

 

 

Do some research before you start quoting the talking heads. You are a numskull DW.

 

That contract is only guaranteed against injury, if RG# busts out , they can just cut him as providing  he doesn't have an injury. I was wondering this when I started the thread but figured the quoted source was properly informed how the 5th year option works.

 

 

The Redskins will pick up Robert Griffin III's $16.1 million 2016 option.

It's not a huge deal as the option is only guaranteed for injury. If the Redskins want to cut ties with Griffin after this season and avoid paying him that $16M, they can do so (as long as he's not hurt). RG3's career was always going to be at a crossroads this season regardless of the option, as he must prove he can sustain health and be a fundamentally sound NFL quarterback in Year 4. His own coach, Jay Gruden, appeared very skeptical of that last year.

[Superman]

The fifth year option is only guaranteed for injury. 

[Superman]

 

Do some research before you start quoting the talking heads. You are a numskull DW.

 

That contract is only guaranteed against injury, if RG# busts out , they can just cut him as providing  he doesn't have an injury. I was wondering this when I started the thread but figured the quoted source was properly informed how the 5th year option works.

 

 

The Redskins will pick up Robert Griffin III's $16.1 million 2016 option.

It's not a huge deal as the option is only guaranteed for injury. If the Redskins want to cut ties with Griffin after this season and avoid paying him that $16M, they can do so (as long as he's not hurt). RG3's career was always going to be at a crossroads this season regardless of the option, as he must prove he can sustain health and be a fundamentally sound NFL quarterback in Year 4. His own coach, Jay Gruden, appeared very skeptical of that last year.

 

 

I was just posting that it's only guaranteed for injury. So if he gets benched, they can rescind the 2016 option. 

[SteelCityColt]

Just put of curiously whats to stop Griffin claiming/feigning injury? Dies it specify injury types and severity?

Besides RG3 getting injured for real wouldn't be all that much of a shock surely?

[Valpo2004]

Just put of curiously whats to stop Griffin claiming/feigning injury? Dies it specify injury types and severity?

Besides RG3 getting injured for real wouldn't be all that much of a shock surely?

 

The first part I'm sure they would need medical proof of an actual injury in order to guarantee the 16 mil.  I really doubt he could get the money guaranteed to him by just saying his knee hurts or something.

 

The second part is what the greater concern is.  

 

Seems to me that if they want to give him another year they should try negotiating that year for him and get a much cheaper price.  A 1 or 2 year extension at this point probably would be a lot cheaper then just picking up the 5th year option.

 

But giving an oft injuried player 16 million dollars that is guaranteed for injury sounds like a bad situation.

 

It makes you wonder if Washington knows when to give up on this guy.  Cause it seems to me like it's about time to do just that.

[SteelCityColt]

The first part I'm sure they would need medical proof of an actual injury in order to guarantee the 16 mil.  I really doubt he could get the money guaranteed to him by just saying his knee hurts or something.

 

The second part is what the greater concern is.  

 

Seems to me that if they want to give him another year they should try negotiating that year for him and get a much cheaper price.  A 1 or 2 year extension at this point probably would be a lot cheaper then just picking up the 5th year option.

 

But giving an oft injuried player 16 million dollars that is guaranteed for injury sounds like a bad situation.

 

It makes you wonder if Washington knows when to give up on this guy.  Cause it seems to me like it's about time to do just that.

I figured there would be some form of medical proof required but there all sorts of "injuries" that can be found with a willing Dr on your side. At best it could end up in a dispute which still wouldn't be a great situation for either side. I'm quite the cynic though.

[dw49]

I was just posting that it's only guaranteed for injury. So if he gets benched, they can rescind the 2016 option. 

 

Yeah .. for sure not like the first guy , Connor Orr , reports. Not "loaded with risk" , instead has very little risk that they will pay him 16 mill if he busts.

[Valpo2004]

I figured there would be some form of medical proof required but there all sorts of "injuries" that can be found with a willing Dr on your side. At best it could end up in a dispute which still wouldn't be a great situation for either side. I'm quite the cynic though.

 

I doubt that's a problem otherwise this sort of thing would have come up before.  You can't cut a player that is currently injured for example.  

 

If it where that easy then you would see low level players trying to claim they can't be cut due to injury.  

 

On top of that the injury has to come from some sort of team activity, workouts, practice or game.  

[Superman]

Just put of curiously whats to stop Griffin claiming/feigning injury? Dies it specify injury types and severity?

Besides RG3 getting injured for real wouldn't be all that much of a shock surely?

 

He would have to clear a physical, first of all. If they rescind the option, I assume it's like releasing him, and there's a physical required when a player is released.

 

This has never happened, so the mechanics are unclear at this point.

[SteelCityColt]

He would have to clear a physical, first of all. If they rescind the option, I assume it's like releasing him, and there's a physical required when a player is released.

This has never happened, so the mechanics are unclear at this point.

It does strike me as a odd situation, surely this effects any trade value he'd have as wouldn't any team he was dealt with have to take him at the 5th year option salary?

I kinda feel it's all going to be a mute point, any takers on him being out the league in 2 years?

[Superman]

It does strike me as a odd situation, surely this effects any trade value he'd have as wouldn't any team he was dealt with have to take him at the 5th year option salary?

I kinda feel it's all going to be a mute point, any takers on him being out the league in 2 years?

 

Yeah a team trading for him would have to deal with the fifth year option salary. Of course, before it's guaranteed at some point before the 2016 season kicks off, it's negotiable, and can be restructured as part of an extension.

 

We'll see how his career shapes up, but he certainly has fallen far in just a couple years.

[amfootball]

I don't think the Redskins have any choice right now. Given what they gave up to get him, they are going to try to make this work at all costs.

[lollygagger8]

[SteelCityColt]

I don't think the Redskins have any choice right now. Given what they gave up to get him, they are going to try to make this work at all costs.

There's perseverance and then there's compounding a mistake by stubbornly chasing your losses. Still seeing as the can always cut him I guess it's no harm no foul.

[Valpo2004]

I don't think the Redskins have any choice right now. Given what they gave up to get him, they are going to try to make this work at all costs.

 

That's called the sunk cost fallacy.

 

Unless they have really good reason to believe that is play will improve in the near future, the only rational and logical decision is to let him go and look for their franchise QB elsewhere.

 

Because you have already spent a lot on something is not a good reason in itself to continue spending on it.  

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escalation_of_commitment

[amfootball]

That's called the sunk cost fallacy.

 

Unless they have really good reason to believe that is play will improve in the near future, the only rational and logical decision is to let him go and look for their franchise QB elsewhere.

 

Because you have already spent a lot on something is not a good reason in itself to continue spending on it.  

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escalation_of_commitment

I am not sure they see it that way. In fact, I think Gruden realizes his public lambasting of Griffin was a mistake last year. I think they have always been all in with Griffin and he did show some good stuff his rookie year so I think they are trying to work with him which is smart. The 5th option is really a no brainer I think as they can cut him at any time. Better to lock him up if they believe he will be the guy over the next couple of years.

[Valpo2004]

I am not sure they see it that way. In fact, I think Gruden realizes his public lambasting of Griffin was a mistake last year. I think they have always been all in with Griffin and he did show some good stuff his rookie year so I think they are trying to work with him which is smart. The 5th option is really a no brainer I think as they can cut him at any time. Better to lock him up if they believe he will be the guy over the next couple of years.

 

Thing is that I don't think anyone outside of Washington thinks he's the guy anymore.  We've seen this before where a QB has a good rookie year but defenses adjust to him, he can't adjust back, and there is almost never a time where they really bounce back.  2 bad years says something.  And I think most view him as a sunk cost.  

[amfootball]

Thing is that I don't think anyone outside of Washington thinks he's the guy anymore.  We've seen this before where a QB has a good rookie year but defenses adjust to him, he can't adjust back, and there is almost never a time where they really bounce back.  2 bad years says something.  And I think most view him as a sunk cost.  

But we have seen the opposite too where a QB struggles early and then matures like Flacco. It is amazing the expectation teams have for their young QBs to be great out of the gate. I think the skins are trying to give him every chance to rebound. He is not costing them that much and they can always release him before the 5th year.