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We have tried with some stunts but how ever considering with our DC Coyer... You can guess how well they've went... And I still don't think this scheme works with stunts...

Yea. Moving a rush OLB from left side to ride side isn't that hard, but having Mathis or Freeney stunt from one side of the line to other just fails miserably. Not only does it take them way to long to do it, but by the time they even get any pressure the ball has been thrown and they look even more useless. This year they've not really been as effective and this stunting idea is part of it.

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I watched the Dallas/Miami game today. Dallas moved Ware all over the place trying to get him away from double teams when rushing the qb. Why don't the colts try this same tactic with Freeney and Mathis? It couldn't hurt with the lack of sacks this year.

because have had some of the most vanilla pedestrian schemes on defense in the past 20 years. Our organization doesn't experiment with defense. We play basically a Prevent zone defense where there is no man to man ever and everyone does one thing. There is no dimensions. And they call this a Cover 2. lol

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It's because Ware is a linebacker and Freeney/Mathis are ends. You're telling me they have to get up and run to the other side and get back in their stance... you dont think the QB will see that and hut the ball. It's easier for OLBs to move end then it is for DEs.

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It's because Ware is a linebacker and Freeney/Mathis are ends. You're telling me they have to get up and run to the other side and get back in their stance... you dont think the QB will see that and hut the ball. It's easier for OLBs to move end then it is for DEs.

So a QB doesn't see Ware moving across the line to the other side because he is a LB? Does being a LB give Ware certain powers of invisibility?

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I watched the Dallas/Miami game today. Dallas moved Ware all over the place trying to get him away from double teams when rushing the qb. Why don't the colts try this same tactic with Freeney and Mathis? It couldn't hurt with the lack of sacks this year.

The Bears do it with Julius Peppers....

They shift late and sometimes rush a blitzing linebacker where Peppers was....

the 'protection back' doesnt know where to go...

....But you have to tight cover the WRs...and we dont like to do that.

Of course..lately, win is one of the other thing we dont do..

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So a QB doesn't see Ware moving across the line to the other side because he is a LB? Does being a LB give Ware certain powers of invisibility?

No, but Ware does do most of his moving inside the last seconds of the play clock, so no QB can audible, plus the QB can't always audible, cause then Ware could just move to the other side, and go back and forth. It's easier to manoeuvre when you're a LB, then when you're a DE.

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No, but Ware does do most of his moving inside the last seconds of the play clock, so no QB can audible, plus the QB can't always audible, cause then Ware could just move to the other side, and go back and forth. It's easier to manoeuvre when you're a LB, then when you're a DE.

That's a good point..Somebody like Manning could audible out of a late DE shift...

,,.but somebody like Alex Smith, Tim Tebow..(or Curtis Painter) could never do that was would get blown up

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So a QB doesn't see Ware moving across the line to the other side because he is a LB? Does being a LB give Ware certain powers of invisibility?

It sure does give ware alot more freedom in rushing. Freeney and Mathis don't have as much freedom to move around and rush where they want to as 4-3 down lineman. Ware can rush from either side or evens straight up the middle easily. Ware can easily switch with Anthony Spencer to rush from the opposite side before the ball is hiked. Freeney and Mathis need to do a stupid stunt to do so.

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3-4 vs the 4-3 thats all i can say... its better if they stay where they are.... what the colts need is pressure up the middle... either blitz the MLB or the need some pretty good DT's

This has been an issue fo the Colts for the last decade or so. I'm not quite sure how hard it is for the FO to figure out.

What the Colts have had, as an advantage, over pretty much every teams in the league in the last decade is a top offense. Why not use an aggressive style of defense (or at least a more agressive style of D, without gonig blitz happy like the Eagles) when we know PM's there?

So what if the other team gets a quick score? They'll get a score regardless, using 12-15 plays/8-9 mins drives and keeping PM on the bench. The Colts D is built on speed (has been for years) so why not use that to put pressure on the opposing QB since there's been constant incompetent play at the DT spot for the Colts in the last decade or so, baring a span of about 1.5 year.

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This has been an issue fo the Colts for the last decade or so. I'm not quite sure how hard it is for the FO to figure out.

What the Colts have had, as an advantage, over pretty much every teams in the league in the last decade is a top offense. Why not use an aggressive style of defense (or at least a more agressive style of D, without gonig blitz happy like the Eagles) when we know PM's there?

So what if the other team gets a quick score? They'll get a score regardless, using 12-15 plays/8-9 mins drives and keeping PM on the bench. The Colts D is built on speed (has been for years) so why not use that to put pressure on the opposing QB since there's been constant incompetent play at the DT spot for the Colts in the last decade or so, baring a span of about 1.5 year.

That is pretty good actually, the colts defense constantly allow long drives for scores... if the colts can be as effective as they were in the passing game as they were for the rest of the season then they have a pretty good chance of winning a game. Kevin thomas is clearly getting better and he looks like a pretty good press corner....

Drake Nevis is gonna be a good DT for the colts no doubt, hopefully he can be that link the colts have been missing.... im always scared for rookies when they get injured their first season, especially if they were showing promise before they got injured, it could probably set them back a bit... hopefully that doesnt happen with Nevis.

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