My mock with extra picks from a surprising trade partner

[chad72]

Let us say we pick at No.24 (yep, I am optimistic ) and the St. Louis Rams pick at No.7 and have the Redskins first rounder too.

Matt Barkley of USC keeps sliding all the way to No.24 and is the talk of the NFL draft on draft day.

St. Louis Rams already had 2 first round picks and got the 2 guys they wanted prior to pick No.24. They are not sure if their future QB is Sam Bradford. They have 3 years invested in him under the previous rookie contract, and 2 years to go. Jeff Fisher wants some insurance and after all, Bradford was drafted before he got there, so he may not be his guy after all

So, they offer to move up from No.39 to No.24 offering No.39 (2nd), No.69 (3rd), and No.165 (6th)

Thus, we end up with No.39 (Rams' 2nd), No.69 (Rams' 3rd), No.86 (Our 3rd), No.118 (Our 4th), No.165 (Rams' 6th), and No.182 (our 6th we got to keep due to Vontae Davis' low playing time; draft positions are close enough because Browns forfeit second rounder due to Josh Gordon supplemental draft pick, and Saints forfeit 2nd rounder due to bounty, hence the Rams 3rd rounder is 69 and not 71 and so on...for those who are wondering about the math)

Here are my picks:

No.39: Chase Thomas, OLB, Stanford, 6'4", 248, 4.74 speed, he may not have a "wow" factor but this guy has a great motor, has good knack for being around the ball and high football IQ. He is the kind of guy you can rely on to be there at the right place at the right time. He more or less fits a disciplined D like the Texans that makes few mistakes when healthy but hey, it is not a bad D to emulate to put pieces together based on. He plays faster than he is timed, and has less question marks than others for this draft position. His ceiling is like a Ryan Kerrigan, IMO, who was a first rounder.

No.69: Logan Ryan, CB, Rutgers, 6'0", 190, 4.53 - Rutgers plays a lot of zone but I feel this guy has enough ball skills to be versatile in any scheme

No.86: Gabe Jackson, OG, Mississippi State, 6'4", 320, 5.34 - he does fit zone blocking more than power blocking schemes and I feel would be a good fit if we continue to use more zone blocking, very athletic to fit the ZBS. I think he blocked for Vick Ballard.

No.118: Kenjon Barner, RB, Oregon, 5'11", 192, 4.39 - yep, he may not be an every down back but he is the kind who can be a playmaker with limited touches in space and we dont have anyone of his kind at the RB position, so teams can play off our RBs knowing that they can recover in the case of a checkdown because our RBs cannot beat them in space

No.165: D.J.Swearinger, FS, South Carolina, 5'11", 210 lbs, 4.56 - some of the well coached secondaries in the nation include Alabama, LSU and South Carolina, IMO, and that is why getting a member from their secondary would be a safer bet than most secondaries in the nation. This guy is a physical presence with some experience at strong safety as well and would be a great addition to the Colts secondary. Antonio Allen, from the Gamecocks secondary, slipped last year as well, so I am expecting D.J.Swearinger to be available here

No.182: Cory Grissom, DT/NT, South Florida, 6'2", 316, 5.18 - plays with great leverage, handful to move, could be an insurance plan to Josh Chapman or AJ should one of them go down

Now, fire away your thoughts!!!

[Nobody]

1. I will be surprised if Barkley doesn't fall to and past 24.

2. 0% chance the Rams blow a 1st rounder on an awful QB.

3. I don't like the draft at all.

4. Like nobody we drafted actually fits our scheme.

[coltsguy510]

Let us say we pick at No.24 (yep, I am optimistic ) and the St. Louis Rams pick at No.7 and have the Redskins first rounder too.

Matt Barkley of USC keeps sliding all the way to No.24 and is the talk of the NFL draft on draft day.

St. Louis Rams already had 2 first round picks and got the 2 guys they wanted prior to pick No.24. They are not sure if their future QB is Sam Bradford. They have 3 years invested in him under the previous rookie contract, and 2 years to go. Jeff Fisher wants some insurance and after all, Bradford was drafted before he got there, so he may not be his guy after all

So, they offer to move up from No.39 to No.24 offering No.39 (2nd), No.69 (3rd), and No.165 (6th)

Thus, we end up with No.39 (Rams' 2nd), No.69 (Rams' 3rd), No.86 (Our 3rd), No.118 (Our 4th), No.165 (Rams' 6th), and No.182 (our 6th we got to keep due to Vontae Davis' low playing time; draft positions are close enough because Browns forfeit second rounder due to Josh Gordon supplemental draft pick, and Saints forfeit 2nd rounder due to bounty, hence the Rams 3rd rounder is 69 and not 71 and so on...for those who are wondering about the math)

Here are my picks:

No.39: Chase Thomas, OLB, Stanford, 6'4", 248, 4.74 speed, he may not have a "wow" factor but this guy has a great motor, has good knack for being around the ball and high football IQ. He is the kind of guy you can rely on to be there at the right place at the right time. He more or less fits a disciplined D like the Texans that makes few mistakes when healthy but hey, it is not a bad D to emulate to put pieces together based on. He plays faster than he is timed, and has less question marks than others for this draft position. His ceiling is like a Ryan Kerrigan, IMO, who was a first rounder.

No.69: Logan Ryan, CB, Rutgers, 6'0", 190, 4.53 - Rutgers plays a lot of zone but I feel this guy has enough ball skills to be versatile in any scheme

No.86: Gabe Jackson, OG, Mississippi State, 6'4", 320, 5.34 - he does fit zone blocking more than power blocking schemes and I feel would be a good fit if we continue to use more zone blocking, very athletic to fit the ZBS. I think he blocked for Vick Ballard.

No.118: Kenjon Barner, RB, Oregon, 5'11", 192, 4.39 - yep, he may not be an every down back but he is the kind who can be a playmaker with limited touches in space and we dont have anyone of his kind at the RB position, so teams can play off our RBs knowing that they can recover in the case of a checkdown because our RBs cannot beat them in space

No.165: D.J.Swearinger, FS, South Carolina, 5'11", 210 lbs, 4.56 - some of the well coached secondaries in the nation include Alabama, LSU and South Carolina, IMO, and that is why getting a member from their secondary would be a safer bet than most secondaries in the nation. This guy is a physical presence with some experience at strong safety as well and would be a great addition to the Colts secondary. Antonio Allen, from the Gamecocks secondary, slipped last year as well, so I am expecting D.J.Swearinger to be available here

No.182: Cory Grissom, DT/NT, South Florida, 6'2", 316, 5.18 - plays with great leverage, handful to move, could be an insurance plan to Josh Chapman or AJ should one of them go down

Now, fire away your thoughts!!!

Instead of trading down, trade for their 2014 first.

[Playoffs2013]

Really don't like it

[coltsfanatic24]

barkley won't fall past bills the owner already sad he wants a franchise qb. i like chase thomas but i rather have xavier rhodes.

[Gavin]

1. I will be surprised if Barkley doesn't fall to and past 24.

2. 0% chance the Rams blow a 1st rounder on an awful QB.

3. I don't like the draft at all.

4. Like nobody we drafted actually fits our scheme.

Nevermind the draft for a minute, I fail to see how a 6'2 230lb QB who has 116 touchdown passes and 48 interceptions and has completed 64 percent of his passes (career) while at USC is a awful QB, Now with that said he is no Luck or Manning but he is far from awful

[Nobody]

Nevermind the draft for a minute, I fail to see how a 6'2 230lb QB who has 116 touchdown passes and 48 interceptions and has completed 64 percent of his passes (career) while at USC is a awful QB, Now with that said he is no Luck or Manning but he is far from awful

An awful draft prospect.

[chad72]

An awful draft prospect.

I think he might do better in a west coast system, so the right team and situation can get more out of him, IMO.

[Playmaker]

We don't need another RB who can't be an every down back. We need someone we can pair Ballard with. Barkley isn't falling that far either, way too many teams need a QB this year

[Gavin]

An awful draft prospect.

Based on what? Those numbers say pretty dang good(and consistent) and so do many scouts

[Nobody]

Based on what? Those numbers say pretty dang good(and consistent) and so do many scouts

Numbers? Well why don't we get Kellen Moore, he had better numbers than Luck!

And what credible scout gives good reasoning for Barkley being a good prospect recently?

He lacks arm strength, any mobility, size, and is a product of USC's talent.

People love to think "Well he has good numbers and ESPN said he'll win the Heisman (called it) so he must be a great prospect! I'm such an expert, I'll call watching him play Savannah State last year 'scouting!'"

I'd like to see these "many scouts" and their reasons.

[Gavin]

Numbers? Well why don't we get Kellen Moore, he had better numbers than Luck!

And what credible scout gives good reasoning for Barkley being a good prospect recently?

He lacks arm strength, any mobility, size, and is a product of USC's talent.

People love to think "Well he has good numbers and ESPN said he'll win the Heisman (called it) so he must be a great prospect! I'm such an expert, I'll call watching him play Savannah State last year 'scouting!'"

I'd like to see these "many scouts" and their reasons.

Granted Im not a fan of Lane Kiffin by any stretch of the imagination I dont see why Barkley being a USC product is a bad thing, Now lacks arm strength, I will give you that but that was also said about Peyton (Barkley wont turn out like anything close to Peyton Im sure of that thats not what I was saying) as for size I dont buy into that argument, does size help? sure does but its not a huge factor. Obviously I dont think Barkley will be near as good as Luck will potentially be in the years to come but it sounds like you think Barkley is complete trash and he could be in the NFL but I think he is going to be one of those QB's that needs alot around him I think to be successful but I think if he landed with the right team he has a good chance.