Richardson day to day with abdominal, oblique injuries

[JMichael557]

Colt Drives in 2nd Half

 

Drive 1 (3 plays Punt). Flacco unable to run for 1st down.

 

Drive 2 (3 plays unable to get first down) Gay misses 54 yard field goal. (Flacco sacked because he  cannot move)

 

Drive 3 Best drive (11 plays) Flacco was 4-8 TD pass to Ogletree.

 

Drive 4 9 plays 7 runs Gay makes 35 yard FG.

 

Drive 5 Flacco sacked again and incomplete on only pass

 

Small amount of Offensive movement. No big plays. There is only one good drive. 

 

AR had two drives

 

Drive 1, 8 plays TD

 

Drive 2 8 plays to the 4 yard line. (injured Flacco comes in throws 4 yd td pass) (on this drive AR is 2 for 2 passing for 40 yards and had the 14 yd run where he should have slid after 10 yards (he fumbled).

 

A much more dynamic offense with AR. Flacco is a good backup.

[John Hammonds]

We should never be playing Flacco if the reason is "we have a better chance of winning".

Flacco is not the long-term answer.  AR is either the long-term answer, or he's not the answer at all.  And the only way to know this is to play him and play him and play him.  He needs to be developed.  Any time spent starting Flacco just delays AR's development.  AR has to continue to play until he either achieves the level he's capable of or busts out.

 

AR needs to play unless he can't.

Flacco needs to not play unless he must.

[DougDew]

1 minute ago, JMichael557 said:

Colt Drives in 2nd Half

 

Drive 1 (3 plays Punt). Flacco unable to run for 1st down.

 

Drive 2 (3 plays unable to get first down) Gay misses 54 yard field goal. (Flacco sacked because he  cannot move)

 

Drive 3 Best drive (11 plays) Flacco was 4-8 TD pass to Ogletree.

 

Drive 4 9 plays 7 runs Gay makes 35 yard FG.

 

Drive 5 Flacco sacked again and incomplete on only pass

 

Small amount of Offensive movement. No big plays. There is only one good drive. 

 

AR had two drives

 

Drive 1, 8 plays TD

 

Drive 2 8 plays to the 4 yard line. (injured Flacco comes in throws 4 yd td pass) (on this drive AR is 2 for 2 passing for 40 yards and had the 14 yd run where he should have slid after 10 yards (he fumbled).

 

A much more dynamic offense with AR. Flacco is a good backup.

Not disagreeing about Flacco.  Have a question. is it fair to remove the plays made by AR when he gets hurt, or when he fumbles?   I mean, you would not tell a player to score a TD and get concussed.  Or run 25 yards and fumble, and get hurt.

 

Just trying to be fair.  Is it okay to call Flacco getting sacked a negative play, but call the plays that AR got hurt on a favorable "dynamic" offense?   I know you are assuming that we should take the good part of the dynamic play and hope the negative part goes away, but that hasn't demonstrated to be the case yet. 

[JMichael557]

1 hour ago, DougDew said:

Not disagreeing about Flacco.  Have a question. is it fair to remove the plays made by AR when he gets hurt, or when he fumbles?   I mean, you would not tell a player to score a TD and get concussed.  Or run 25 yards and fumble, and get hurt.

 

Just trying to be fair.  Is it okay to call Flacco getting sacked a negative play, but call the plays that AR got hurt on a favorable "dynamic" offense?   I know you are assuming that we should take the good part of the dynamic play and hope the negative part goes away, but that hasn't demonstrated to be the case yet. 

I agree with you 100%. It is frustrating that AR is unwilling or the coaches are reluctant to force him to slide or give himself up on plays. On the play he was injured he made the 1st down marker so all he has to do was go down. He did not need the extra 5 years. After the game, he said it is just football. That is not a very smart comment. I am hoping that Shane did not put him back in as a "lesson". IE if you are going to run the ball and not slide then you are not going to play. If he does not learn this he will not last. He is too big to be a running back that can avoid big hits in traffic. He cannot put himself in a position where defenders can take running shots at this body. Same with his footwork on passing. When he sets his feet he can make throws that no one else in the league can make. When he is sloppy he misses easy completions. So the coaches need to be more demanding in all of these areas.  

 

Right now it all appears to be more mental than physical. 

[DougDew]

37 minutes ago, JMichael557 said:

On the play he was injured he made the 1st down marker so all he has to do was go down. He did not need the extra 5 years. After the game, he said it is just football. That is not a very smart comment.

Yeah, in that situation, it was just dumb to not slide.  And his comment sounded more like an excuse than a reason.

 

Question, does he know how to slide?   That's not a joke.   Some "athletes" can't slide naturally very well, and its a learned skill.

[1959Colts]

23 hours ago, Rhodelesstraveled said:

Flacco should remain starter all year.  

Flacco did a decent job when called upon vs Pittsburgh. However, I believe, should Flacco remain at QB, the opposing defenses will bring heavy pass rush, which our o-line will not be able to contain, resulting in Flacco faltering.

[1959Colts]

39 minutes ago, DougDew said:

Yeah, in that situation, it was just dumb to not slide.  And his comment sounded more like an excuse than a reason.

 

Question, does he know how to slide?   That's not a joke.   Some "athletes" can't slide naturally very well, and its a learned skill.

I get the sense AR has not yet perfected that art.

[1959Colts]

 

[superrep1967]

On 9/30/2024 at 9:06 PM, richard pallo said:

So this is about feeling sore?    A professional athlete playing sore.  Who would have thought that possible.  lol. 

It depends on how sore, though. 

[John Hammonds]

27 minutes ago, 1959Colts said:

 

This speaks to the concern that I had when I was watching the play.  There was a fumble on the play, and a live ball being scrambled for.  But at the same time, there's Richardson writhing on the ground holding his hip going "OMG OMG OMG Ow Ow Ow Ow Ow Ow!"  And I'm like, "Dude!  There's a live ball!  Ignore the pain and get in the scramble!"

And then two plays later, he's all, "I'm good!  I'm good!  I want back in the game!"

If you're that good two plays later, then why were you writhing in pain with a live ball just feet away?

 

I don't want to sound like a negative Nancy, but this brings up two options for me when it comes to Richardson's injuries:

• Option 1 - The doctor says, "Sorry, but you are too hurt to play".  Richardson:  Darn it!
• Option 2 - Richardson says "I'm hurt!  I'm hurt!  I'm hurt!  I'm too sore to play!  OMG OMG OMG OMG!"

If it's Option 2, then I think we have a problem.

I just hope it's not Option 2.

[DougDew]

45 minutes ago, John Hammonds said:

But at the same time, there's Richardson writhing on the ground holding his hip going "OMG OMG OMG Ow Ow Ow Ow Ow Ow!"  And I'm like, "Dude!  There's a live ball!  Ignore the pain and get in the scramble!"

And then two plays later, he's all, "I'm good!  I'm good!  I want back in the game!"

If you're that good two plays later, then why were you writhing in pain with a live ball just feet away?

Noticed too.  IIRC, the fumble was not caused by the defender striking the ball.  An awkward hit, but AR just kinda dropped it. 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

AR will be limited today. Just doing individusl drills.

[Superman]

14 minutes ago, DougDew said:

Noticed too.  IIRC, the fumble was not caused by the defender striking the ball.  An awkward hit, but AR just kinda dropped it. 

 

Before he even got hit, a defender stripped the ball from behind, and Richardson tried to reach out for the ball. A second defender hit Richardson in the side, and Richardson reacted in pain. He definitely didn't just drop the ball. 

[Kyle]

On 9/30/2024 at 9:06 PM, richard pallo said:

So this is about feeling sore?    A professional athlete playing sore.  Who would have thought that possible.  lol. 

I'm wondering if Richardson ever got the "are you hurt, or are you injured" talk.  I'm glad he is back already, but I don't know how he could be injured so bad he couldn't finish the game, but back at practice a few days later.  For such a big guy, he seems really soft

[richard pallo]

2 minutes ago, Kyle said:

I'm wondering if Richardson ever got the "are you hurt, or are you injured" talk.  I'm glad he is back already, but I don't know how he could be injured so bad he couldn't finish the game, but back at practice a few days later.  For such a big guy, he seems really soft

For some reason they seem to be really babying him.  Don’t know why maybe he’s not just that mature.  22 is young and in spite of his physical attributes he might be soft mentally.  Being overly cautious might not be in his best interest.  A red jersey isn’t safe enough?  Hopefully he gets back out there tomorrow.

[John Hammonds]

Just now, richard pallo said:

For some reason they seem to be really babying him.  Don’t know why maybe he’s not just that mature.  22 is young and in spite of his physical attributes he might be soft mentally.  Being overly cautious might not be in his best interest.  A red jersey isn’t safe enough?  Hopefully he gets back out there tomorrow.

Yup.  Makes you kinda want to ask the question:  Is he injury prone?  Or does he just have an extremely low pain tolerance?

[Dingus McGirt]

AR needs some tough love.  Show him the famous photo of Y.A. Tittle, etc.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

22 minutes ago, richard pallo said:

For some reason they seem to be really babying him.  Don’t know why maybe he’s not just that mature.  22 is young and in spite of his physical attributes he might be soft mentally.  Being overly cautious might not be in his best interest.  A red jersey isn’t safe enough?  Hopefully he gets back out there tomorrow.

I don’t think he is soft mentally. We have to remember he has played very little football. Mentally he is still learning to take hits and how to avoid them. His body is still maturing too. He wanted back in that game Sunday bad.

[DougDew]

1 hour ago, DougDew said:

Noticed too.  IIRC, the fumble was not caused by the defender striking the ball.  An awkward hit, but AR just kinda dropped it. 

The video if AR's hit shows that the ball was stripped from behind before he got hit.  The fumble was caused by a defender who wasn't the hitter.

[ADnum1]

2 hours ago, 1959Colts said:

 

Not good for AR to miss a thursday practice.

 

The chances of him playing sunday just went way down.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

1 minute ago, ADnum1 said:

Not good for AR to miss a thursday practice.

 

The chances of him playing sunday just went way down.

It’s Wed. He was limited. He did drills but no team work. He was dressed in full pads.

[cdgacoltsfan]

42 minutes ago, ADnum1 said:

Not good for AR to miss a thursday practice.

 

The chances of him playing sunday just went way down.

Ummm....today is Wednesday.

[GoColts8818]

1 hour ago, ADnum1 said:

Not good for AR to miss a thursday practice.

 

The chances of him playing sunday just went way down.

Today is Wednesday…

[Moosejawcolt]

5 hours ago, DougDew said:

Yeah, in that situation, it was just dumb to not slide.  And his comment sounded more like an excuse than a reason.

 

Question, does he know how to slide?   That's not a joke.   Some "athletes" can't slide naturally very well, and its a learned skill.

He's use to running over guys in college. He has to learn u can't and the only guy that did was Newton.

[ADnum1]

15 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said:

Today is Wednesday…