ArmchairQB Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 I have seen this mentioned in a couple different posts but could not find a dedicated topic on this. Looking for thoughts on NIL. Personally I’m not a fan. I think it sends the wrong message to high school kids that all they need to do is make it to D1. What’s a kids real incentive to work their tails off and get good enough to go pro when they can simply make it to D1 and become a multi millionaire? How many talented kids are just going to take the NIL money and never go pro because it’s easier and doesn’t require them to put their body on the line into their early 30’s? How many of these kids and their families are no longer worried about them getting an education and contributing something tangible when they can take the money and run? We don’t give kids millions of dollars to make it to MIT and contribute to research and development of things that actually improve our lives. Why is it ok to do this for athletes? Thoughts? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 I don't like it and how it has declined my interest in college sports. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w87r Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Actually a neutral number. Nil = zero So neither positive nor negative. Lol. To the the point, I think it is a step in the right direction but their has to be better oversight and rules governing it. It's a complete mess right now. College athletes deserve to be paid. Don't think anyone is argue that, these colleges make millions and millions of these athletes. I never liked that players had to sit out a season when transferring, so that is a plus as well A coach doesn't have to sit out, why should a player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 On 1/24/2024 at 8:09 PM, w87r said: Actually a neutral number. Nil = zero So neither positive nor negative. Lol. To the the point, I think it is a step in the right direction but their has to be better oversight and rules governing it. It's a complete mess right now. College athletes deserve to be paid. Don't think anyone is argue that, these colleges make millions and millions of these athletes. I never liked that players had to sit out a season when transferring, so that is a plus as well A coach doesn't have to sit out, why should a player? i pretty much disagree. The players (on scholarship) are getting paid already. They are also using the NCAA to advance their career to a pro level. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynjin Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 On 1/23/2024 at 10:32 PM, ArmchairQB said: I have seen this mentioned in a couple different posts but could not find a dedicated topic on this. Looking for thoughts on NIL. Personally I’m not a fan. I think it sends the wrong message to high school kids that all they need to do is make it to D1. What’s a kids real incentive to work their tails off and get good enough to go pro when they can simply make it to D1 and become a multi millionaire? How many talented kids are just going to take the NIL money and never go pro because it’s easier and doesn’t require them to put their body on the line into their early 30’s? How many of these kids and their families are no longer worried about them getting an education and contributing something tangible when they can take the money and run? We don’t give kids millions of dollars to make it to MIT and contribute to research and development of things that actually improve our lives. Why is it ok to do this for athletes? Thoughts? On 1/24/2024 at 2:16 PM, Myles said: I don't like it and how it has declined my interest in college sports. I'm not sure that NIL in and of itself is the issue, if a college player can make money by endorsing a product, fine. I think that the bigger issue is the NIL collectives that are now getting involved in the recruiting of players and enticing them to transfer, especially now that the transfer rules are so liberal. It is becoming pay for play and a player can transfer almost any time that they want, if they get a bigger NIL offer from one of the collectives. The colleges may need to have contracts with the players that sign on to play for them, not unlike contracts professional teams have with their players. I also think that if there are not changes to the college system there will come a time when very good coaches will either retire in their prime or leave for the NFL rather then deal with the morass that is college football. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisaaron1023 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 I think it's trash. Let the players go straight pro if they are good enough. People nowadays and pretty much saying screw college, unless you wanna be a doctor or lawyer lol. No need to pay college athletes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 On 2/1/2024 at 6:28 PM, Cynjin said: I'm not sure that NIL in and of itself is the issue, if a college player can make money by endorsing a product, fine. I think that the bigger issue is the NIL collectives that are now getting involved in the recruiting of players and enticing them to transfer, especially now that the transfer rules are so liberal. It is becoming pay for play and a player can transfer almost any time that they want, if they get a bigger NIL offer from one of the collectives. The colleges may need to have contracts with the players that sign on to play for them, not unlike contracts professional teams have with their players. I also think that if there are not changes to the college system there will come a time when very good coaches will either retire in their prime or leave for the NFL rather then deal with the morass that is college football. I also think players should have to pay their original school back the scholarship they accepted and used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chad72 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 As long as the athletes are fulfilling their athletic obligations that they were originally signed up for, that is all that I truly care. You do have to closely monitor any association with gambling and like @w87r said, more rules in place governing the same. It might also lead to lesser athletes being taken advantage of by signing deals that aren't in their best interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColtStrong2013 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 It’s going to change the game in a way that none of us like, I can almost guarantee that. There is a reason some of the top coaches are retiring or looking to bolt to the nfl. I would too. The entire thing is in the benefit of the player. And I don’t necessarily disagree with it, because they have been taken advantage of. When Texas a & m is allowed to profit a reported $500 million off one player in Johnny Football Manziel, and he doesn’t see a single dime of it, the system is completely broken. This isn’t about education, it’s about money. It always has been. So the sorry old “but they get a free education” argument just never held weight. These top athletes weren’t there for education. They were there to win and bring in the dollars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColtStrong2013 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 On 2/19/2024 at 2:12 PM, Myles said: I also think players should have to pay their original school back the scholarship they accepted and used. Why? Did they not fulfill their agreement to being an athlete for the year they were there? It’s not a 4 year contract. It’s year to year. The schools can stop it at any time. And the player previously could transfer at any time. The difference is now transfers don’t have to sit out a year. Which was always the case for graduate students. There were too many inconsistencies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myles Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 59 minutes ago, ColtStrong2013 said: Why? Did they not fulfill their agreement to being an athlete for the year they were there? It’s not a 4 year contract. It’s year to year. The schools can stop it at any time. And the player previously could transfer at any time. The difference is now transfers don’t have to sit out a year. Which was always the case for graduate students. There were too many inconsistencies. I depends. If they were a no show to class, they should either get a failing grade that should follow them on their transcript or have to reimburse. Also depends on the scholarship. Some are offered and accept multi-tear scholarships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColtStrong2013 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 37 minutes ago, Myles said: I depends. If they were a no show to class, they should either get a failing grade that should follow them on their transcript or have to reimburse. Also depends on the scholarship. Some are offered and accept multi-tear scholarships. that’s the case for most programs in America. Have you ever seen the essay the leaked from North Carolina. They are not held to the same standards by the schools. It’s a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AwesomeAustin Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 Personally, I feel it’s about time these kids get paid. The current system does need modified but that will take time bc it’s new. College sports is billions of dollars. Most of these kids won’t make it pro so they deserve every opportunity to make money bc everyone else is. Just consider jerseys. The school, ncaa, manufacturer, distributor, logistics, store, stocker and cashier all make money selling a jersey with a team/player on it. The player should as well. Millions of people profit off college sports, the players deserve a piece of the pie. How they earn it is to be determined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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