FanFromtheWasteland Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 I don't know all the intricacies of football, but with the speed of JT and Wentz is definitely more mobile than Peyton ever was, why don't we run the stretch play that was so effective with Peyton and Edge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachLite Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 5 hours ago, FanFromtheWasteland said: I don't know all the intricacies of football, but with the speed of JT and Wentz is definitely more mobile than Peyton ever was, why don't we run the stretch play that was so effective with Peyton and Edge? How about just running Hines up the middle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CR91 Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 8 hours ago, FanFromtheWasteland said: I don't know all the intricacies of football, but with the speed of JT and Wentz is definitely more mobile than Peyton ever was, why don't we run the stretch play that was so effective with Peyton and Edge? How often do teams run the stretch? I feel like too many teams are running either zone blocking cutback lanes or single cut downhill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKB Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 18 minutes ago, CR91 said: How often do teams run the stretch? I feel like too many teams are running either zone blocking cutback lanes or single cut downhill. outside of SF? not many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smonroe Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 I like the simple fake toss the Chiefs ran tonight. With teams concentrating on JT, that would force the safety hesitation and would give our WRs plenty of time to get open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack86 Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 12 hours ago, FanFromtheWasteland said: I don't know all the intricacies of football, but with the speed of JT and Wentz is definitely more mobile than Peyton ever was, why don't we run the stretch play that was so effective with Peyton and Edge? Good point dude, probably more a symptom of Franks preferred formations as a pose to him not liking it the stretch. I’ll be interested to see if someone can pick this sort a little more. maybe a big PA shot in the playoffs huh! 4 hours ago, CR91 said: How often do teams run the stretch? I feel like too many teams are running either zone blocking cutback lanes or single cut downhill. I think the cut back allows more potential options but damn the stretch would be nice to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack86 Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Smonroe said: I like the simple fake toss the Chiefs ran tonight. With teams concentrating on JT, that would force the safety hesitation and would give our WRs plenty of time to get open. The chiefs have different backs more scat backs, in one of our previous games it was mentioned how the draw and the wheel routes could be utilised more effectively with JT to off balance the defence. knowing us I feel like if we ran a sweet someone would blow it up and bloody scoop and score haha. Oh the life of a Colts fan :p Go Colts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisaaron1023 Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 3 hours ago, Jack86 said: The chiefs have different backs more scat backs, in one of our previous games it was mentioned how the draw and the wheel routes could be utilised more effectively with JT to off balance the defence. knowing us I feel like if we ran a sweet someone would blow it up and bloody scoop and score haha. Oh the life of a Colts fan :p Go Colts Like our screens?! We look like the little Giants every GD time we try to run a screen play. Then I watch other teams consistently run them.. And also as far as the stretch run.. is it because teams run from the shotgun so much nowadays, maybe the stretch isn't as effective from the gun? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 4 hours ago, Jack86 said: Good point dude, probably more a symptom of Franks preferred formations as a pose to him not liking it the stretch. I’ll be interested to see if someone can pick this sort a little more. maybe a big PA shot in the playoffs huh! I think the cut back allows more potential options but damn the stretch would be nice to see. Probably because they would get called for holding lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lollygagger8 Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 19 hours ago, FanFromtheWasteland said: I don't know all the intricacies of football, but with the speed of JT and Wentz is definitely more mobile than Peyton ever was, why don't we run the stretch play that was so effective with Peyton and Edge? Lol, they can't even run screens correctly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
life long Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 11 hours ago, CR91 said: How often do teams run the stretch? I feel like too many teams are running either zone blocking cutback lanes or single cut downhill. Pretty sure single cut downhill is already associated with zone block running. The Gary Kubiak/ Mike Shanahan teams are zone blocking with backs who are 1 cut downhill runners ie Arian Foster... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CR91 Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 49 minutes ago, life long said: Pretty sure single cut downhill is already associated with zone block running. The Gary Kubiak/ Mike Shanahan teams are zone blocking with backs who are 1 cut downhill runners ie Arian Foster... I was referring to more man blocking with backs like Henry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiveAndLetAddai Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 The stretch was run to near perfection in the early Manning-Edge years, though I believe Taylor is better off in his current situation, due to his strength vs speed. Plus Edge relied on his blockers more than JT seems to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Curtis Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 Rick Venturi touched on this a couple years ago on the radio show. The "stretch" play is kind of a dead play because the Linebackers and Safety's in today's game are much faster than years ago, and even the Dline guys move very fast in short bursts which disrupts lateral movement. I remember him saying at the most a team could do a play-action out of it, but even then the QB would have very little time to throw in today's NFL (not to mention our Dline.). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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