Proof QB Rating is a terrible stat

[Detectacon]

I am not making excuses for Luck's slow start but this article, IMO, proves why QB rating sucks. Luck is last in the league at the moment behind much worse QB's ( and a punter ). 

 

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/09/29/through-three-games-andrew-luck-ranks-dead-last-in-passer-rating/

[Dustin]

That proves that Luck has sucked, not that the stat is bad. 

[chad72]

That proves that Luck has sucked, not that the stat is bad. 

 

Yep. His INTs at inopportune moments are reflected in the rating.

 

One thing I would agree is that the QB rating does not completely account for situational football, IMO.

[BrentMc11]

I have never even cared about passer rating.  I want to see if a QB can win in the clutch...running, throwing...whatever it takes.  Just win baby.....OOOPS my inner Al Davis just came out.  

[Narcosys]

Yep. His INTs at inopportune moments are reflected in the rating.

 

One thing I would agree is that the QB rating does not completely account for situational football, IMO.

 

They do take into account situational, his plays on 3rd down, 4th down, redzone.  His interceptions came at a bad time and were bad choices which significantly affected the outcome of those games.

[21isSuperman]

You have to look at the context of the stat.  If I go to the NFL and throw a 10 yard slant route to Julio Jones to takes it 70 more yards for a TD, I'd have a great passer rating.  That's why the punter has a better QB rating.  You have to know when to ignore data and what it really means.  Luck being dead last out of the 32 starters just shows he has turned the ball over a lot.  The stat isn't perfect, but in this case, it's not that bad

[Detectacon]

You have to look at the context of the stat. If I go to the NFL and throw a 10 yard slant route to Julio Jones to takes it 70 more yards for a TD, I'd have a great passer rating. That's why the punter has a better QB rating. You have to know when to ignore data and what it really means. Luck being dead last out of the 32 starters just shows he has turned the ball over a lot. The stat isn't perfect, but in this case, it's not that bad

I believe the pass by the punter was incomplete so...

[21isSuperman]

I believe the pass by the punter was incomplete so...

My point was that you have to look at the data instead of just accepting it.  One throw by a punter isn't going to tell you much about his throwing ability.  On the other hand, taking a QB rating from the first 3 games would be a better measure

[Jason_]

That proves that Luck has sucked, not that the stat is bad. 

 

^^ This.  The stat does not mean that 31 other starting QBs are better QBs than Luck.  It means that they're individual in-game passing performances have been better. 

[Superman]

Yeah, we all know passer rating is imperfect, even flawed. But Luck hasn't been good so far.

[aaron11]

They do take into account situational, his plays on 3rd down, 4th down, redzone.  His interceptions came at a bad time and were bad choices which significantly affected the outcome of those games.

nope, situations aren't accounted for. 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passer_rating

 

heres a quote from the link - "The NFL passer rating formula includes four variables: completion percentage, yards per attempt, touchdowns per attempt, and interceptions per attempt"

 

down, yardage, redzone and what quarter aren't a factor

[Narcosys]

nope, situations aren't accounted for. 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passer_rating

 

heres a quote from the link - "The NFL passer rating formula includes four variables: completion percentage, yards per attempt, touchdowns per attempt, and interceptions per attempt"

 

down, yardage, redzone and what quarter aren't a factor

 

Thats the passer rating...  He said QBR, that ESPN stat that they created on a 0-100 scale.

[aaron11]

Thats the passer rating...  He said QBR, that ESPN stat that they created on a 0-100 scale.

the article the OP linked is using passer rating, its from NBC not ESPN

 

this thread might have gotten some of us mixed up, by referring to both with out clarfying