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to drive-up the trading power of our number one pick?I think a couple of days ago they prematurely revealed their hand by stating they were seriously interested in drafting griffin.I think they merely said that just in case we were stuck with the 2nd overall pick.

Please show me where they said they were interested in drafting Griffin.

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is it possible to drive up the trading power of this #1 pick?

You better believe its possible!Just an ordinary number one overall pick would have the value of 3 first round picks and 2 seconds.That's 5 total.But this is no ordinary number one overall,because its andrew luck and his hypewagon number one overall!God only knows what we'll get for it!Whatever we recieve will easily be the biggest trade in NFL history!This will impact our colts for the next decade and beyond!It will insure our success and might even prolong manning's career.We truly hit the lottery with it!So right now the polians are pretending to have alot of interest in luck,just to start a bidding war amoung GM'S and over zealous owners,such as dan snyder and jimmy jones.

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Its only possible to drive it up if the market is there. And Im not entirely sure the market is available. Who needs a QB? Wash. Sea. Mia.? 3 teams maybe a 4th? Now of those teams how many would be willing to take a RG3 or other QB in the later 1st?

The team who would probably find the #1 the most valuable, already has it.

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to drive-up the trading power of our number one pick?I think a couple of days ago they prematurely revealed their hand by stating they were seriously interested in drafting griffin.I think they merely said that just in case we were stuck with the 2nd overall pick.

Your guess is as good as anyone's right now. No one around here has a better, or "inside" source compared to anyone else.

The value of the pick is high; higher perhaps because Barkley elected to return to USC for another year, thus thinning the QB pool. Lots of offers will come our way, probably starting today. We would be side to consider them; foolish to wave them off. We will never get another opportunity to load up in areas of need. REAL areas of need.

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Your guess is as good as anyone's right now. No one around here has a better, or "inside" source compared to anyone else.

The value of the pick is high; higher perhaps because Barkley elected to return to USC for another year, thus thinning the QB pool. Lots of offers will come our way, probably starting today. We would be side to consider them; foolish to wave them off. We will never get another opportunity to load up in areas of need. REAL areas of need.

I agree with you about trading the pick IF we dont use our first pick on a QB anyhow...if we were going to do that, i would just as soon go ahead and take Luck #1....but if we could trade and pick up a bunch of quality players to make this a better team, then i'm all for it.

Blackmon, Claiborne, DeCastro, Thompson, Kirkpatrick, Barron etc would ALL be starters on this team from day one...and within 4 years (the time for Manning's deal to be up/him retire, if he's healthy), they could very likely be pro bowlers (the list of guys just named)

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You better believe its possible!Just an ordinary number one overall pick would have the value of 3 first round picks and 2 seconds.That's 5 total.But this is no ordinary number one overall,because its andrew luck and his hypewagon number one overall!God only knows what we'll get for it!Whatever we recieve will easily be the biggest trade in NFL history!This will impact our colts for the next decade and beyond!It will insure our success and might even prolong manning's career.We truly hit the lottery with it!So right now the polians are pretending to have alot of interest in luck,just to start a bidding war amoung GM'S and over zealous owners,such as dan snyder and jimmy jones.

awesome!

Lets get ALL THE PICKS!!!!!! :)

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You better believe its possible!Just an ordinary number one overall pick would have the value of 3 first round picks and 2 seconds.That's 5 total.But this is no ordinary number one overall,because its andrew luck and his hypewagon number one overall!God only knows what we'll get for it!Whatever we recieve will easily be the biggest trade in NFL history!This will impact our colts for the next decade and beyond!It will insure our success and might even prolong manning's career.We truly hit the lottery with it!So right now the polians are pretending to have alot of interest in luck,just to start a bidding war amoung GM'S and over zealous owners,such as dan snyder and jimmy jones.

I keep reading people in here saying the #1 pick is worth 3 first round and 2 second roung picks. Who is going to give up that much for an unproven player?

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Your guess is as good as anyone's right now. No one around here has a better, or "inside" source compared to anyone else.

The value of the pick is high; higher perhaps because Barkley elected to return to USC for another year, thus thinning the QB pool. Lots of offers will come our way, probably starting today. We would be side to consider them; foolish to wave them off. We will never get another opportunity to load up in areas of need. REAL areas of need.

A guy that i'm really starting to like and hope we draft is david DeCastro.I think he has the talent to be the best ever at his position.The only problem is where he's expected to go(midroundone),so it might be tough for us to pick him...without reaching.I think alot of people would go crazy if we reached for him.But i really really like him.

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Teams with 'possible' QB needs:

Miami

Cleveland

Den?

KC?

Wash

Sea

6 teams. All of them have needs outside of QB, just like we do. So what make everyone think these teams are going to mortgage there entire draft to us? Of those 6, 2 of them could just sit pat. Den/Clev. Now we are down to 4 teams. One or two of them are willingly going to take RG3/Other QB. Now we are down to 2 teams. This magical draft package everyone wants does not exist.

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Teams with 'possible' QB needs:

Miami

Cleveland

Den?

KC?

Wash

Sea

6 teams. All of them have needs outside of QB, just like we do. So what make everyone think these teams are going to mortgage there entire draft to us? Of those 6, 2 of them could just sit pat. Den/Clev. Now we are down to 4 teams. One or two of them are willingly going to take RG3/Other QB. Now we are down to 2 teams. This magical draft package everyone wants does not exist.

After yesterday I think you need to add the NY Jets to that list. I'd be surprised if they don't draft a QB in either the 2nd or 3rd round. I don't think they would be willing to give up a lot though because they need help in a number of areas.

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to drive-up the trading power of our number one pick?I think a couple of days ago they prematurely revealed their hand by stating they were seriously interested in drafting griffin.I think they merely said that just in case we were stuck with the 2nd overall pick.

Dont let public statements fool you...

Polian isnt known for public honesty... :cool:

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Your guess is as good as anyone's right now. No one around here has a better, or "inside" source compared to anyone else.

The value of the pick is high; higher perhaps because Barkley elected to return to USC for another year, thus thinning the QB pool. Lots of offers will come our way, probably starting today. We would be side to consider them; foolish to wave them off. We will never get another opportunity to load up in areas of need. REAL areas of need.

I meant to say 'wise' and not 'side.' Stupid phone auto-speller...

I keep reading people in here saying the #1 pick is worth 3 first round and 2 second roung picks. Who is going to give up that much for an unproven player?

Because every pick has a strict value (kept on a board somewhere), and trade-ups happen every year. If an unproven Julio Jones - known explicitly for dropping half of the passes thrown his way in college - can warrant players and 3 picks from Atlanta, Andrew Luck will draw more.

Teams with 'possible' QB needs:

Miami

Cleveland

Den?

KC?

Wash

Sea

6 teams. All of them have needs outside of QB, just like we do. So what make everyone think these teams are going to mortgage there entire draft to us? Of those 6, 2 of them could just sit pat. Den/Clev. Now we are down to 4 teams. One or two of them are willingly going to take RG3/Other QB. Now we are down to 2 teams. This magical draft package everyone wants does not exist.

Every team has needs. That's not the issue. All that it takes is one team to fall in love with a player (again, see Julio Jones last year, despite the team having White, Turner, and Gonzo as offensive weapons), for them to match or exceed the perceived value (on-board) in a trade. Despite the cute list of teams in need of a QB you have presented, there are a ton of team that would be willing to consider upgrading, or developing a new one behind their wily vet. San Francisco, New York (Jets), Jacksonville, and even Dallas may be in the mix. All have rumors of dumping their QB, or rebooting with a new one. Every team has needs, so that won't be the stopping point. We have discovered, however, that we are pretty bad all around. We were the worst team in football without the guy who will be back next year. Drafting Luck adds nothing to remedy that, so we need to load up for the present, and the future.

There's really more like 8 or 9 teams, not 2. The fantasy draft scenario always exists, because teams are always willing to go for a top tier prospect. Has there been one more hyped (though, undeservedly so) than Luck?

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to drive-up the trading power of our number one pick?I think a couple of days ago they prematurely revealed their hand by stating they were seriously interested in drafting griffin.I think they merely said that just in case we were stuck with the 2nd overall pick.

If they were interested in drafting Griffin, good riddance that they are gone. Just proves they cannot select NFL talent and haven't in the last 4 years.

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I meant to say 'wise' and not 'side.' Stupid phone auto-speller...

Because every pick has a strict value (kept on a board somewhere), and trade-ups happen every year. If an unproven Julio Jones - known explicitly for dropping half of the passes thrown his way in college - can warrant players and 3 picks from Atlanta, Andrew Luck will draw more.

Every team has needs. That's not the issue. All that it takes is one team to fall in love with a player (again, see Julio Jones last year, despite the team having White, Turner, and Gonzo as offensive weapons), for them to match or exceed the perceived value (on-board) in a trade. Despite the cute list of teams in need of a QB you have presented, there are a ton of team that would be willing to consider upgrading, or developing a new one behind their wily vet. San Francisco, New York (Jets), Jacksonville, and even Dallas may be in the mix. All have rumors of dumping their QB, or rebooting with a new one. Every team has needs, so that won't be the stopping point. We have discovered, however, that we are pretty bad all around. We were the worst team in football without the guy who will be back next year. Drafting Luck adds nothing to remedy that, so we need to load up for the present, and the future.

There's really more like 8 or 9 teams, not 2. The fantasy draft scenario always exists, because teams are always willing to go for a top tier prospect. Has there been one more hyped (though, undeservedly so) than Luck?

I meant to say 'wise' and not 'side.' Stupid phone auto-speller...

Because every pick has a strict value (kept on a board somewhere), and trade-ups happen every year. If an unproven Julio Jones - known explicitly for dropping half of the passes thrown his way in college - can warrant players and 3 picks from Atlanta, Andrew Luck will draw more.

Every team has needs. That's not the issue. All that it takes is one team to fall in love with a player (again, see Julio Jones last year, despite the team having White, Turner, and Gonzo as offensive weapons), for them to match or exceed the perceived value (on-board) in a trade. Despite the cute list of teams in need of a QB you have presented, there are a ton of team that would be willing to consider upgrading, or developing a new one behind their wily vet. San Francisco, New York (Jets), Jacksonville, and even Dallas may be in the mix. All have rumors of dumping their QB, or rebooting with a new one. Every team has needs, so that won't be the stopping point. We have discovered, however, that we are pretty bad all around. We were the worst team in football without the guy who will be back next year. Drafting Luck adds nothing to remedy that, so we need to load up for the present, and the future.

There's really more like 8 or 9 teams, not 2. The fantasy draft scenario always exists, because teams are always willing to go for a top tier prospect. Has there been one more hyped (though, undeservedly so) than Luck?

i agree with everything you said and i think at minimum well see 3 first round picks and 2 seconds im thinking how bad does a team want him and they might give up to 5 1st round and 4 2nd just to get him. who realy knows yet though.

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Its only possible to drive it up if the market is there. And Im not entirely sure the market is available. Who needs a QB? Wash. Sea. Mia.? 3 teams maybe a 4th? Now of those teams how many would be willing to take a RG3 or other QB in the later 1st?

The team who would probably find the #1 the most valuable, already has it.

The Jets. BADLY.

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Every team has needs. That's not the issue. All that it takes is one team to fall in love with a player (again, see Julio Jones last year, despite the team having White, Turner, and Gonzo as offensive weapons), for them to match or exceed the perceived value (on-board) in a trade. Despite the cute list of teams in need of a QB you have presented, there are a ton of team that would be willing to consider upgrading, or developing a new one behind their wily vet. San Francisco, New York (Jets), Jacksonville, and even Dallas may be in the mix. All have rumors of dumping their QB, or rebooting with a new one. Every team has needs, so that won't be the stopping point. We have discovered, however, that we are pretty bad all around. We were the worst team in football without the guy who will be back next year. Drafting Luck adds nothing to remedy that, so we need to load up for the present, and the future.

There's really more like 8 or 9 teams, not 2. The fantasy draft scenario always exists, because teams are always willing to go for a top tier prospect. Has there been one more hyped (though, undeservedly so) than Luck?

Im not debating that every team has issuses, but none of those teams have issues enough to give up an ENTIRE draft for Andrew Luck. Atlanta going for Julio was an entirely different scenario and has absoulutley zero baring on anything to do with Luck. Julio had the capability to produce instantly, on a team who thought it was 1 game away from a SB. Thats why Atlanta made that trade....You really think Jets/SF/Jac/Dall are all going to mortagage a draft on 1 player? They aren't hurting bad enough to do that, loving Luck or not.

We are getting Luck. We are not getting a 'boatload' of picks. You really think a team is going to give up everything in this draft and the next to "consider upgrading, or developing behind a wily vet"?!?!!?

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The Jets. BADLY.

Really? So as the Jets GM, you just took a QB with the 5th pick 2 years prior, now your going to give up this entire draft, and probably several others, to draft a QB 4 spots higher? Not only that but your going to do all this this without attempting to even bring in a new Off. Cord for the guy you drafted. Who btw has been to 2 AFC champ games, and won 4 away playoff games? With a fellow Rookie HC in THAT division?

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