LUVTHESHOE Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 maybe i was still half asleep this morning but i could have sworn that i heard bp onthe news today say that he is not at all surprised at how well curtis painter has playedto this point, and that is why they drafted him because they knew when given theopportunity he would play well. now that may not be word for word but darn close." HUH" thenin the **** did we spend 4 million on collins. things that make go hmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoGoColts Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 ." HUH" thenin the **** did we spend 4 million on collins. things that make go hmm.My thoughts exactly. Moreover, why did he let Collins start? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouthfire Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoGoColts Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 BP is grasping. I honestly think that Irsay is probably asking a lot of the same questions that us fans are asking about the draft, Chris's role in the organization, and so on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldunclemark Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Polian is a legend in his own mindHe's never surprised by anything.........and we all always should have known that he's always been right...about everything :ttth: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrfox Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 He will say some crap like "look, I said, given the time Curtis can be good. We brought in Kerry because we didnt think Curtis, at that point, has had enough of that time and practice to really live up to his potential. With Kerry getting injured, he (Curtis) was forced into service a little sooner than we had liked, but met those challenges admirably"blah blah wiggle wiggle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CR91 Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 well think about it guys. the guy hasnt done anything worth mentioning in years so course he has to take the praise for curtis doing well :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakedownstreet Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 i blame the water boy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coltsagent Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Collins was brought in for one reason and one reason only...BP did not want to LOOK bad. He was protecting himself, if Collins did bad in games 1-3, you blame lack of experience. If Painter did bad you blame Polian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldunclemark Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Collins was brought in for one reason and one reason only...BP did not want to LOOK bad. He was protecting himself, if Collins did bad in games 1-3, you blame lack of experience. If Painter did bad you blame Polian.True words.....agent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wordofmouth Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 (edited) Wow, this board is heading for a complete mental melt down. Let's see, Polian drafts him then claims he thought he could be successfull all along. Well I hope so, that is why he drafted Painter in the first place.Then a collection of internet geniuses come along and criticize Polian."Then why did we sign Collins?" boy, can't get one past you! Maybe because, up to that point, Painter had not shown the team what they thought they would see in him. So, sinse Polian actually has to make moves instead of talking about them, he signs a guy who is NFL ready today to go along with someone who will hopefully develope. Yes, real dumb move. Edited October 13, 2011 by wordofmouth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldunclemark Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Wow, this board is heading for a complete mental melt down.Let's see, Polian drafts him then claims he thought he could be successfull all along. Well I hope so, that is why he drafted Painter in the first place.Then a colection of internet geniuses come along and criticize Polian."Then why did we sign Collins?" boy, can't get one past you! Maybe because, up to that point, Painter had not shown the team what they thought they would see in him. So, sinse Polian actually has to make moves instead of talk about them, he signs a guy who is NFL ready today to go along with someone who will hopefully develope.Yes, real dumb move.MOUTH..I dont think it was a mistake to sign Collins. I would have...But I didnt think Painter could play wellThe signing of Collins is proof that Polian did not know Painter could play all along.He didnt say the THOUGHT Painter could play..he said he KNEW it..If that's the case..why sign Kerry C.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doogansquest Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Has anyone thought that perhaps Caldwell actually had a say in it as well? Maybe Polian asked him."Do you think Painter is ready? I mean, this is why we drafted him."*Blink*"Jim?"*Blink*"Okay, blink once for 'yes,' and twice if we should find a veteran."*Blink Blink*"Call Kerry." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wordofmouth Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 MOUTH..I dont think it was a mistake to sign Collins. I would have...But I didnt think Painter could play wellThe signing of Collins is proof that Polian did not know Painter could play all along.He didnt say the THOUGHT Painter could play..he said he KNEW it..If that's the case..why sign Kerry C.?Correct. He said he knew he COULD not he knew he WOULD. There's a big difference. On top of that, he didn't say he knew hewould play well this soon. Based on Painters preseason performance, bringing Collins in was a no brainer no matter how much faith you had in Painter's potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAC Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 He will say some crap like "look, I said, given the time Curtis can be good. We brought in Kerry because we didnt think Curtis, at that point, has had enough of that time and practice to really live up to his potential. With Kerry getting injured, he (Curtis) was forced into service a little sooner than we had liked, but met those challenges admirably"blah blah wiggle wiggle.You are saying this in the guise of criticism, but actually that is very likely exactly what happened. And it's exactly what he should say. It's the politically correct response, that doesn't denigrate any of the professionals on his payroll, and logically gets us from point a to point b. That's what GMs do.Is there ANYTHING that Polian could say which wouldn't result in ranting and raving from his legion of detractors at this point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coltsagent Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 I liked the idea of Collins coming in, but I agreed with Wayne from the get-go. I think Wayne was one of a only a handful of vets that could have stepped up and said what he said, or got away with saying it. I think Wayne's statements were at the hearts of the majority of the team. You dont preach a philosphy for years then when the funk hits the fan you go with a different philosphy. The Colts did not look, act or perform like the colts with Collins. Collins should have been brought in as the backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponys Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 You are saying this in the guise of criticism, but actually that is very likely exactly what happened. And it's exactly what he should say. It's the politically correct response, that doesn't denigrate any of the professionals on his payroll, and logically gets us from point a to point b. That's what GMs do.Is there ANYTHING that Polian could say which wouldn't result in ranting and raving from his legion of detractors at this point?Well put MAC, what's with all these negative fans? Polian has proven that he is a great GM. Records don't lie.I think they brought Kerry in as a back-up to Painter if Manning doesn't come back. But started him because he was starter ready from last year. I'm not sure he's injured but instead it's because Payton's not coming back, so Painter now gives us a better chance for the future. Com'on look at the 2 Purdue QB's before Painter, they are in the NFL. Now don't start bad mouthing Orton because Denver sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coltsagent Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Polian stated they brougth Collins in to start from day one, which prompted Wayne's comments and further questioned Caldwells impotence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smitto Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Lol polian is something else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
presto123 Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Wait until Painter faces a great pass rush. He is going to look bad. Real bad. I just hope he doesn't get hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAC Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Polian stated they brougth Collins in to start from day one, which prompted Wayne's comments and further questioned Caldwells impotenceOf course they brought Collins in to start, and it doesn't reflect on Caldwell one way or the other. Don't forget that Caldwell was Collin's QB coach at Penn State - I doubt very much that he was against the idea.Painter was still making too many mental mistakes in the early part of preseason. They had to make a decision, and brought Collins in days before the Green Bay game. Personally my guess is that if they had waited until after the GB game to make a decision, Collins wouldn't be here at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smitto Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Wait until Painter faces a great pass rush. He is going to look bad. Real bad. I just hope he doesn't get hurt.The bengals have the top rank defense... soooo thats probably one of the better defense he will face this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
presto123 Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 The bengals have the top rank defense... soooo thats probably one of the better defense he will face this season. If Painter looks good the next game then I will stop complaining about him. I don't dislike him or anything I just can't believe people are already touting him as a good QB. Still a long way to go to get there but I'm rooting for him because he is putting in the effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAC Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 The bengals have the top rank defense... soooo thats probably one of the better defense he will face this season.True. Don't forget that the Steelers have the #2 ranked defense - he already faced a serious pass rush - with no preparation - and did very well.I'm not worried about him "looking bad", but I'm worried about our oline rendering the entire offense ineffective. They contained Tamba Hall last week with a guy who just walked in off the street, but it's hard to have much confidence in them at this point. If the put Diem back at tackle, it will be just like last year - with guys beating him to the outside on every other play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smitto Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 If Painter looks good the next game then I will stop complaining about him. I don't dislike him or anything I just can't believe people are already touting him as a good QB. Still a long way to go to get there but I'm rooting for him because he is putting in the effort.Well the guy is a good QB, its probably just too hard to believe lol... he makes the right audibles and the right reads and he has an arm and is accurate, it will definitely be a good game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaughingAtIrsay Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Hey BP... Come here :smack: ... Shut the :cuss: please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smitto Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 True. Don't forget that the Steelers have the #2 ranked defense - he already faced a serious pass rush - with no preparation - and did very well.I'm not worried about him "looking bad", but I'm worried about our oline rendering the entire offense ineffective. They contained Tamba Hall last week with a guy who just walked in off the street, but it's hard to have much confidence in them at this point. If the put Diem back at tackle, it will be just like last year - with guys beating him to the outside on every other play.Hopefully they keep diem at guard, he's much better there although pollack has been doing a pretty good job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponys Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Some good Purdue records.Career: Ranks second on Purdue career completion percentage list at .599 (760-1,269), tied for second with 10 300-yard passing games, fourth with 1,269 passing attempts, fourth with 760 completions, fourth with 8,763 passing yards, fourth with 54 passing touchdowns, fourth with 9,101 yards of total offense, sixth with a 126.4 passing efficiency rating and sixth with 35 interceptions ... has three 400-yard passing games, including one 500-yard performance.STATISTIC CAREER SEASON GAME PASSING Drew Brees 11,792 (1997-2000) Curtis Painter 3,985 (2006) Curtis Painter 546 (Cent. Michigan 2007) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterk2011 Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 Polian is here to draft talents. If Painter turns to be good, then Polian has worked for his paycheck, and I don't give a * what he says and why he brought Collins here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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