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Please place them in order of importance to you but you only need to give a reason for whatever position you put 1st & last. Imma give all mine to provoke discussion.

 

Example:

 

1) OLB/DE - Whoever can get to the QB with the least favorable intentions. Im worried Mathis may not be effective without Freeney & Walden would scare me into an almost panic if we didnt still have the draft.

 

2) CB - Have we ever had a year in the last 6 where we didnt go at least 1 game without both CBs being out? Thats the frustration of years past reason. The more realistic reason is I want a specialist. A cover CB would be nice - but im thinking more like someone that we can blitz from weird places to cause havoc. Isnt that suppose to be the fun of the 3-4 defense?

 

3) OL - Comes in a hair under CB for 1 reason - Ben Ijalana. Yes - Ijalana could be a bust - but since we got a man there - we gotta give him his opportunity to succeed so we can focus on positions we dont have proper depth for. 

 

4) RB - Is in the middle because im not sure if we need one - but this is the time if we do. We have to see how the new offense flows 1st. V Ballard should get 1st opportunity there though. 

 

5) Safety - Comes in at 5 because Landry is how we addressed this. Im sure we will address this again late - so im not too worried about it.

 

6) WR - I dont care how old R Wayne is. He has to show decline before I worry here. Plus - in todays NFL - a crafty veteran can live in the SLOT if they have nice hands and run even better routes. He also has a team full of 2 year players he is passing down his legacy to. If DBH buys in - we could be good.

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1.    Pass Rusher:   DE or OLB   Dwight is gone more help is needed!

 

2.    ORG:   Must protect Andrew.   This would be #1, but there isn't a RG at 24 in the 1st.

 

3.    CB:     Can never have enough good corners.

 

4.    S:     Quality depth here is needed.   Back-up quality is not good.   And this could be Bethea's last year.   This is a rare great class of Safeties.    Need to get one.

 

5.    WR:   Wayne will be 35 this year.  DHB may or may not work out.   This could be higher,   but I'm building the defensive monster first.

 

6.    RB:    One to add.   Is this Brown's last year?   Even if not, only two (Ballard, Brown) is not enough and Carter is situational for now.

 

7.    C:    This could be Satele's last year.

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1) OL - No depth and haven't added enough of the power element we want this year.

 

2) S - Bethea's old and Landry has periodic health problems.  Sticks out as being in need of depth

 

3) CB - 1, 2, and 3 options are good.  #4 is iffy (Vaughn).  Need a young 'un to develop.

 

4) K - Vinny hasn't been too impressive.  He's 40, and it may be time to take a shot at a successor.

 

5) RB - Not a bad group.  I'm not sure that Brown has been consistent enough to keep after this year.  After the top 3 guys, there's no one worthy.

 

6) OLB - The side with Mathis being backed up by Hughes could have a #3 option, in case age or suckiness takes down either of the current options. 

 

7) WR - I'm very happy with the Top 4, and competition is good for the # 5 spot.  We could add another competitor really late.

 

8) ILB - Just a bunch of guys after the top 3.

 

9) NT - Four deep on the depth chart, with Chapman being the future.

 

10) TE - Not a real need.

 

11) QB - Doin' great here.

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1.OL-protecting your franchise investment always comes first

2.OLB/DE-We only have one that we know is reliable 

3.CB-Can never have enough-we must keep Vaughn riding the bench but if Toler is as good as everyone says he will be then we have our #2 (I have my doubts but hey the proof is in the pudding so Im willing to give him a year in a Colts uniform)

4.S-we need FS depth and Betheas potential replacement sooner rather then later

5.RB-We have our starter (most likely) in Ballard but he must prove he can hang onto the ball, Brown could prove to be something if we ever get a respectable O Line as well but he needs to prove he can stay healthy, Carter-well he will be lucky if he makes in through tc still on the roster although he may survive just for another body back there given his cap hit is minimal, I however dont think that will be enough to keep him on the roster, running backs that cant run WITH the ball are worthless

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1.    Pass Rusher:   DE or OLB   Dwight is gone more help is needed!

 

2.    ORG:   Must protect Andrew.   This would be #1, but there isn't a RG at 24 in the 1st.

 

3.    CB:     Can never have enough good corners.

 

4.    S:     Quality depth here is needed.   Back-up quality is not good.   And this could be Bethea's last year.   This is a rare great class of Safeties.    Need to get one.

 

5.    WR:   Wayne will be 35 this year.  DHB may or may not work out.   This could be higher,   but I'm building the defensive monster first.

 

6.    RB:    One to add.   Is this Brown's last year?   Even if not, only two (Ballard, Brown) is not enough and Carter is situational for now.

 

7.    C:    This could be Satele's last year.

 

I agree with this order :)

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1) OL - No depth and haven't added enough of the power element we want this year.

2) S - Bethea's old and Landry has periodic health problems. Sticks out as being in need of depth

3) CB - 1, 2, and 3 options are good. #4 is iffy (Vaughn). Need a young 'un to develop.

4) K - Vinny hasn't been too impressive. He's 40, and it may be time to take a shot at a successor.

5) RB - Not a bad group. I'm not sure that Brown has been consistent enough to keep after this year. After the top 3 guys, there's no one worthy.

6) OLB - The side with Mathis being backed up by Hughes could have a #3 option, in case age or suckiness takes down either of the current options.

7) WR - I'm very happy with the Top 4, and competition is good for the # 5 spot. We could add another competitor really late.

8) ILB - Just a bunch of guys after the top 3.

9) NT - Four deep on the depth chart, with Chapman being the future.

10) TE - Not a real need.

11) QB - Doin' great here.

Bethea isn't really old. He's only 28 now, 29 going into the season. I think it's more likely he's replaced to avoid his next contract, or because his game has slipped... I don't think it has, and want to see how he plays with better talent around him, but he'll be gone because he's slipping before anything to do with his age (for the near future, anyway).
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I'm gonna list the need, then my favorite player at this position in the draft. (That we would even have a chance at getting)

 

 

1.  OLB - Mathis is getting a bit old, Hughes still hasn't quite proven himself, and who knows what Walden is gonna bring.  There's a few good ones in this draft, I wouldn't mind seeing us take one of them.  (Alex Okafor)

 

2. WR - I know everyone seems to think we're set at WR, but we're really not...  Wayne, while still good, is old and is suddenly going to have that drastically down season any time now.  DHB is better than Avery, but a question mark on whether or not he'll even be on the team next year.  Hilton had a great rookie season, but I still don't think he's ever going to be a reliable #1 Receiver for us.  Again, there's quite a few good Receivers in this draft.  We could really use one of them. (Deandre Hopkins)

 

3, OG - Donald Thomas was solid when he played for the Pats, but we really don't have anyone at  RG.  Unless the FO believes in Ijalana, Robert Griffin, Anderson, Ziemba, or... heaven forbid... McGlynn, we could really use some help here. (Jonathan Cooper)

 

4. CB - Vontae Davis is a stud.  Toler has a lot of potential, but seems to have some injury issues.  That leaves Butler (meh...) Vaughn (oh lord, no....) and Gordy (again, meh...)  We could use another corner, even if it's just for depth. I.E.  Keep Cassius Vaughn off the field... (Xavier Rhodes)

 

5. S - Another aging player... Bethea has had a few great seasons, and a few "okay" seasons.  Last year was an "okay" season.  He didn't do anything bad, but he also didn't do anything extraordinary.  Landry doesn't know what the word "cover" means, but he is a beast against the run, and ending receivers after the catch.  After them, though, there's no one.  We need some depth, and a possible replacement for Bethea. (Matt Elam)

 

6. ILB - Another position that, oddly, most of you think we're set at.  We're nothing special at ILB.  Freeman and Conner are okay, but lack the talent to be true impact players.  This isn't a glaring need, because we ARE solid at this position, but we could always use a game changer in the middle. (Later round player here... Jonathan Bostic)

 

 

I think the rest of our positions (except possibly Kicker... I love Adam, but he's gettin' a bit long in the tooth) are pretty set.

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OL- need a starting guard for 2013, need a C for the future (unless Shipley is the future)

 

S- talent really drops off after starters... Bethea is a FA after the season

 

OLB- lots of question marks after Mathis and Mathis is not going to be good for much longer

 

WR- same situation as OLB... take Reggie off of the roster and there is nobody who can be fully trusted.. might be higher than OLB because good ones are harder to find...

 

RB- need a guy who is a more reliable receiver out of the backfield and Carter isn't good enough to replace Ballard or Brown in case of injury, Brown is a FA after 2013

 

ILB- Angerer might not be a good system fit, but its hard to tell with his foot injury last season... both he and Conner are FAs after 2013

 

CB- we are 3 deep here (I am a bit higher on Butler than some others are) Gordy might emerge (doubt it) but barring that, we need depth... Davis is a FA after 2013

 

I can see us going anywhere in the draft, really... I expect Grigs to bring in a stream of UDFAs (where we will eventually get our new K and probably a RB) to fill out the roster and provide competition in the early going...

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1. OLB- A pass rush is absolutely vital in today's NFL, and besides an all star qb, has been the only trend among recent Superbowl winning teams. Mathis is gonna be gone soon and never transitioned amazingly well to the 3-4, and Erik Walden, as we all know, hasn't proven much yet.

 

2. G- I'd really love to not have any guard from last year starting again for us this year. Especially now that we might be moving a more pro type offense, and needs tougher lineman than our old down the field scheme.

 

3. DE- With all the talk about needing to replace Mathis for getting old, let us not forget that Cory Redding's the same age, although it may not seem like it sense he just got here. We are Building the Monster, and a headstrong Defensive Line should lead the way.

 

4. CB- We've finally got two corners who fit our new Defensive scheme and let go of one who wasn't a good one for our style, and was also injury prone. So we've replaced him with one who does fit our scheme, but is also injury prone. I think we'd all much rather have Butler stay at the nickel rather get called up to man the outside, so I think coveting a big, press type corner is important as well.

 

5. WR- Reggie Wayne found the fountain of youth last season, but in football, it doesn't last forever. Our viable options for a replacement are: the up in the air DHB, TY Hilton, obviously more of a slot reciever, and maybe even throw in Lavonn Brazil, who is also more suited for the slot. We need more receivers with better hands and route running rather than speed and taking the top off a defense.

 

6. RB- Vick Ballard was certainly a pleasant surprise in the last draft, but in today's NFL, two-back systems are not only popular, but somewhat required. We could use a faster back, but also has the power to punch through defenders.

 

7. S- We've just signed the hard-hitting body-ripping Laron Landry to our defense to blow up plays trying to extend themselves, and even though he's not overly amazing in coverage, he's a strong safety, built to hit, and he'll be asked to do what he does best- lay the wood. As for the free, Antoine Bethea, he's only 28, and even though he hasn't played up to his former Pro Bowl Status for the past two seasons, he's a better option than what most teams can boast around the league, and still has some fire left in the tank.

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1. OLB- A pass rush is absolutely vital in today's NFL, and besides an all star qb, has been the only trend among recent Superbowl winning teams. Mathis is gonna be gone soon and never transitioned amazingly well to the 3-4, and Erik Walden, as we all know, hasn't proven much yet.

 

2. G- I'd really love to not have any guard from last year starting again for us this year. Especially now that we might be moving a more pro type offense, and needs tougher lineman than our old down the field scheme.

 

3. DE- With all the talk about needing to replace Mathis for getting old, let us not forget that Cory Redding's the same age, although it may not seem like it sense he just got here. We are Building the Monster, and a headstrong Defensive Line should lead the way.

 

4. CB- We've finally got two corners who fit our new Defensive scheme and let go of one who wasn't a good one for our style, and was also injury prone. So we've replaced him with one who does fit our scheme, but is also injury prone. I think we'd all much rather have Butler stay at the nickel rather get called up to man the outside, so I think coveting a big, press type corner is important as well.

 

5. WR- Reggie Wayne found the fountain of youth last season, but in football, it doesn't last forever. Our viable options for a replacement are: the up in the air DHB, TY Hilton, obviously more of a slot reciever, and maybe even throw in Lavonn Brazil, who is also more suited for the slot. We need more receivers with better hands and route running rather than speed and taking the top off a defense.

 

6. RB- Vick Ballard was certainly a pleasant surprise in the last draft, but in today's NFL, two-back systems are not only popular, but somewhat required. We could use a faster back, but also has the power to punch through defenders.

 

7. S- We've just signed the hard-hitting body-ripping Laron Landry to our defense to blow up plays trying to extend themselves, and even though he's not overly amazing in coverage, he's a strong safety, built to hit, and he'll be asked to do what he does best- lay the wood. As for the free, Antoine Bethea, he's only 28, and even though he hasn't played up to his former Pro Bowl Status for the past two seasons, he's a better option than what most teams can boast around the league, and still has some fire left in the tank.

Also for my picks for the players:

 

OLB- Jarvis Jones (if he falls), Tank Carradine, Trevardo Williams, Chase Thomas.

 

G- Larry Warfard, Travis Frederick, Brian Winters.

 

DE- Datone Jones, Kawaan Short, Sylvester Williams.

 

CB- Jamar Taylor, Darius Slay, Blidi Breh-Wilson

 

WR- Robert Woods, Cobi Hamilton, Aaron Dobson

 

RB- Marcus Lattimore, Giovanni Bernard, Stepfan Taylor

 

S- Bacarri Rambo, Duke Williams, Josh Evans.

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I'm also more in favor than most people to draft an inside linebacker. We have no true 3-4 ILB's, granted we have Freeman who racked up the tackles, but those were more chase down-drag down rather than prototype read, react, and lay the beat down. I wouldn't even mind using our first round pick on one.

I think our options would be Arthur Brown and Kevin Reddick.

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Also for my picks for the players:

 

OLB- Jarvis Jones (if he falls), Tank Carradine, Trevardo Williams, Chase Thomas.

 

G- Larry Warfard, Travis Frederick, Brian Winters.

 

DE- Datone Jones, Kawaan Short, Sylvester Williams.

 

CB- Jamar Taylor, Darius Slay, Blidi Breh-Wilson

 

WR- Robert Woods, Cobi Hamilton, Aaron Dobson

 

RB- Marcus Lattimore, Giovanni Bernard, Stepfan Taylor

 

S- Bacarri Rambo, Duke Williams, Josh Evans.

I like alot of your picks at each position except Chase Thomas, I'd rather have Corey Lemonier then again I dont know what rounds you would draft any of these players to, I love the Jamar Taylor, Travis Frederick and Brian Winters ideas (not so familiar with Breh Wilson or Slay

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