Pre-Training Camp Roster Predictions

[FightLikeSin]

After watching these guys practice at LOS, seeing where they lined players up and my person feelings on who will get the start... this is my best guess as to the final 53 man roster at this point. Who do you think should stay or be cut from the current roster?

OFFENSE

QB : Andrew Luck, Drew Stanton, Chandler Harnish

FB : TBD

RB : Donald Brown, Delone Carter, Vick Ballard, Deji Karim

WR : Reggie Wayne, Austin Collie, Donnie Avery, T.Y. Hilton, LaVon Brazill, Jabin Sambrano

TE : Coby Fleener, Dwayne Allen, Kyle Miller

LT : Anthony Castonzo, Jeff Linkenbach

LG : Joe Reitz, Seth Olsen

C : Samson Satele, A.Q. Shipley

RG : Ben Ijalana, Mike McGlynn

RT : Winston Justice, Justin Anderson

DEFENSE

LE : Cory Redding, Drake Nevis

RE : Fili Moala

NT : Josh Chapman, Antonio Johnson, Brandon McKinney

JACK : Dwight Freeney, Jerry Hughes

WILL : Kavell Conner, Chris Galippo

MIKE : Pat Angerer, A.J. Edds

SAM : Robert Mathis, Tim Fugger, Mario Addison

CB : Jarraud Powers, Kevin Thomas, Cam Chism, Chris Rucker

FS : Antoine Bethea, Joe Lefeged

SS : Tom Zbikowski, Mike Merletti

SPECIAL TEAMS

K : Adam Vinatieri

P : Pat McAfee

LS : Justin Snow

KR : Deji Karim

PR : T.Y. Hilton

[Gavin]

The O Line scares the crap out of me at least at tackle and guard I hope Luck isnt turned into a human pin cushion, Center Im not worried about at this point, and I also think a blind person would cover better then our Corners can with the exception of Powers,

[TKnight24]

After watching these guys practice at LOS, seeing where they lined players up and my person feelings on who will get the start... this is my best guess as to the final 53 man roster at this point. Who do you think should stay or be cut from the current roster?

OFFENSE

RB : Donald Brown, Delone Carter, Vick Ballard, Deji Karim

WR : Reggie Wayne, Austin Collie, Donnie Avery, T.Y. Hilton, LaVon Brazill, Jabin Sambrano

TE : Coby Fleener, Dwayne Allen, Kyle Miller

DEFENSE

RE : Fili Moala

NT : Josh Chapman, Antonio Johnson, Brandon McKinney

MIKE : Pat Angerer, A.J. Edds

CB : Jarraud Powers, Kevin Thomas, Cam Chism, Chris Rucker

SPECIAL TEAMS

K : Adam Vinatieri

KR : Deji Karim

RB : Donald Brown, Delone Carter, Vick Ballard, Deji Karim <--- No Darren Evans?

WR : Reggie Wayne, Austin Collie, Donnie Avery, T.Y. Hilton, LaVon Brazill, Jabin Sambrano <--- No Griff Whalen?

TE : Coby Fleener, Dwayne Allen, Kyle Miller <---- Andre Smith is #3 TE

DEFENSE

RE : Fili Moala <--- I think Nevis will beat him out for this Spot instead of being behind Redding

NT : Josh Chapman, Antonio Johnson, Brandon McKinney

MIKE : Pat Angerer, A.J. Edds <---- MONSTER DUO at iowa

CB : Jarraud Powers, Kevin Thomas, Cam Chism, Chris Rucker <----- Shakey about Thomas, but we'll see

SPECIAL TEAMS

K : Adam Vinatieri <---- Will he EVER Retire? lol

KR : Deji Karim & T.Y. Hilton

[MTC]

I can see Mewelde Moore (Over Karim) and Cassius Vaughn making the roster.

[That Guy]

After watching these guys practice at LOS, seeing where they lined players up and my person feelings on who will get the start... this is my best guess as to the final 53 man roster at this point. Who do you think should stay or be cut from the current roster?

OFFENSE

QB : Andrew Luck, Drew Stanton, Chandler Harnish

FB : TBD (will be played by Dwayne Allen when necessary)

RB : Donald Brown, Delone Carter, Vick Ballard, Deji Karim, Mewelde Moore

WR : Reggie Wayne, Austin Collie, Donnie Avery, T.Y. Hilton, LaVon Brazill, Jabin Sambrano

TE : Coby Fleener, Dwayne Allen, Kyle Miller, Andre Smith

LT : Anthony Castonzo, Jeff Linkenbach

LG : Joe Reitz, Seth Olsen, Justin Anderson

C : Samson Satele, A.Q. Shipley

RG : Ben Ijalana, Mike McGlynn

RT : Winston Justice, George Foster

DEFENSE

LE : Cory Redding, Drake Nevis

RE : Fili Moala

NT : Josh Chapman, Antonio Johnson, Brandon McKinney

JACK : Dwight Freeney, Jerry Hughes

WILL : Kavell Conner, Chris Galippo

MIKE : Pat Angerer, A.J. Edds

SAM : Robert Mathis, Tim Fugger, Mario Addison

CB : Jarraud Powers, Kevin Thomas, Cam Chism, Chris Rucker, Cassius Vaughn, Justin King

FS : Antoine Bethea, Joe Lefeged

SS : Tom Zbikowski, Mike Merletti, David Caldwell

SPECIAL TEAMS

K : Adam Vinatieri

P : Pat McAfee

LS : Justin Snow

KR : LaVon Brazill

PR : T.Y. Hilton

[bahhummbug]

I can see Mewelde Moore (Over Karim) and Cassius Vaughn making the roster.

[Gavin]

Season Wants

QB:Luck

FB:Allen

WR:Wayne, TY Hilton, Collie

Tight End:Fleener, Allen

Left Tackle:Castonzo

Left Guard:Hicks

Center:Satele

Right Guard:Mcglynn

Right Tackle:Ijalana

LOLB:Freeney

ROLB:Mathis

MLB:Angerer

MLB:Freeman

CB:Powers

CB:Chism

SS:Tom Z

FS:Bethea

KR:Hilton

PR:Avery

thats my wants anyway

[FightLikeSin]

No Darren Evans?

No Griff Whalen?

Andre Smith is #3 TE

K : Adam Vinatieri <---- Will he EVER Retire? lol

I love Darren Evans, Karim has great value in the return game, and now with Moore in the mix...its gonna be even tougher for him tog get a spot. We can't hold 5 or 6 RB's

Griff is a poor man's Austin Collie in my book, but much like RB, we can't have all of them(WR). Sambrano is impressing a lot of people and between those two, I'll take Sambrano all day. The "Stanford Connection" might have to just stay between #12 and #80.

I was taking a shot in the dark at the #3 TE. Up in the air at this point. Allen and Fleener are the only ones that matter unless they get hurt.

No, Vinatieri will never retire. Ever.

I can see Mewelde Moore (Over Karim) and Cassius Vaughn making the roster.

For Moore, it would be surprising for me if he made the team. I don't see him winning a spot over Karim simply because Karim was a #2 back on JAX that actually did ok when MJD was hurt and was a great kick returner. I'd be looking to get more bang for the buck.

Cassius Vaughn might make the roster. The CB situation is such a cluster, I took my best guess.

[KarlKuffs]

After watching these guys practice at LOS, seeing where they lined players up and my person feelings on who will get the start... this is my best guess as to the final 53 man roster at this point. Who do you think should stay or be cut from the current roster?

OFFENSE

QB : Andrew Luck, Drew Stanton, Chandler Harnish

FB : TBD

RB : Donald Brown, Delone Carter, Vick Ballard, Deji Karim

WR : Reggie Wayne, Austin Collie, Donnie Avery, T.Y. Hilton, LaVon Brazill, Jabin Sambrano

TE : Coby Fleener, Dwayne Allen, Kyle Miller

LT : Anthony Castonzo, Jeff Linkenbach

LG : Joe Reitz, Seth Olsen

C : Samson Satele, A.Q. Shipley

RG : Ben Ijalana, Mike McGlynn

RT : Winston Justice, Justin Anderson

DEFENSE

LE : Cory Redding, Drake Nevis

RE : Fili Moala

NT : Josh Chapman, Antonio Johnson, Brandon McKinney

JACK : Dwight Freeney, Jerry Hughes

WILL : Kavell Conner, Chris Galippo

MIKE : Pat Angerer, A.J. Edds

SAM : Robert Mathis, Tim Fugger, Mario Addison

CB : Jarraud Powers, Kevin Thomas, Cam Chism, Chris Rucker

FS : Antoine Bethea, Joe Lefeged

SS : Tom Zbikowski, Mike Merletti

SPECIAL TEAMS

K : Adam Vinatieri

P : Pat McAfee

LS : Justin Snow

KR : Deji Karim

PR : T.Y. Hilton

No way we only carry 6 DL.....or only 4 cbs (are you serious?).....or only 4 safeties. Seriously doubt we only carry 3 TE's, either.

QB - Luck, Stanton, Harnish

RB - Brown, Ballard, Carter, Moore

WR - Wayne, Collie, Avery, Hilton, Brazil

TE - Fleener, Allen, Smith, Miller

OL - Castonzo, Reitz, Satale, McGlynn, Justice, Link, Olsen, Ijalana, Anderson, Baker

DL - Redding, Nevis, Moala, Mathews, Anunoby, McKinney, Chapman

LB - Mathis, Freeney, Hughes, Fugger, Conner, Angerer, Edds, Galippo

CB - Powers, Thomas, Vaughn, Rucker, Chism

S - Bethea, Hines, Merletti, Zbikowski, Lefeged

K - Vinatieri

P - McAfee

[TKnight24]

I love Darren Evans, Karim has great value in the return game, and now with Moore in the mix...its gonna be even tougher for him tog get a spot. We can't hold 5 or 6 RB's

Griff is a poor man's Austin Collie in my book, but much like RB, we can't have all of them. Sambrano is impressing a lot of people and between those two, I'll take Sambrano all day. The "Stanford Connection" might have to just stay between #12 and #80.

I was taking a shot in the dark at the #3 TE. Up in the air at this point. Allen and Fleener are the only ones that matter unless they get hurt.

No, Vinatieri will never retire. Ever.

I think Andre Smith will be the #3 TE. Darren, Carter, & Brown are my 3 RB'

s (No Particular Order). I think we just brought Karim & Moore to add Competition & Scare the 3. And Vinatieri needs to Reitre before his Leg falls off lol

[andreaallennyc]

RB : Donald Brown, Delone Carter, Vick Ballard, Deji Karim <--- No Darren Evans?

WR : Reggie Wayne, Austin Collie, Donnie Avery, T.Y. Hilton, LaVon Brazill, Jabin Sambrano <--- No Griff Whalen?

TE : Coby Fleener, Dwayne Allen, Kyle Miller <---- Andre Smith is #3 TE

I love Griff Whalen (yes, I'm a Stanford fan), but he is relatively short (actually measured 5'10" at the Stanford pro day) and other measurables are not at NFL level. And, unfortunately, he had to miss the OTAs to finsh school so is behind and has had less time to impress the Colts powers. Of course, he was a walk-on at Stanford and ended up being one of their most reliable, most valuable players, so I would never count him out. He works hard, runs his routes perfectly and has sure hands. At Stanford, he just always managed to get the job done while some players who looked better on paper just didn't get it done. Hope he at least is kept on the practice squad.

As you all probably know, Griff was Andrew's roommate for the last three years. Coby was also part of Andrew's inner circle, not just another teammate. I love having these guys around for Andrew. Sorry the Colts couldn't have gotten David DeCastro too!!

[Gavin]

No way we only carry 6 DL.....or only 4 cbs (are you serious?).....or only 4 safeties. Seriously doubt we only carry 3 TE's, either.

QB - Luck, Stanton, Harnish

RB - Brown, Ballard, Carter, Moore

WR - Wayne, Collie, Avery, Hilton, Brazil

TE - Fleener, Allen, Smith, Miller

OL - Castonzo, Reitz, Satale, McGlynn, Justice, Link, Olsen, Ijalana, Anderson, Baker

DL - Redding, Nevis, Moala, Mathews, Anunoby, McKinney, Chapman

LB - Mathis, Freeney, Hughes, Fugger, Conner, Angerer, Edds, Galippo

CB - Powers, Thomas, Vaughn, Rucker, Chism

S - Bethea, Hines, Merletti, Zbikowski, Lefeged

K - Vinatieri

P - McAfee

Galippo is way in over his head I think and Reitz was unimpressive against the bull rush to say the least and he gets no push in the run game, I would start Hicks

[TKnight24]

Season Wants

CB:Powers

CB:Chism

thats my wants anyway

All HAIL Chism!!! :worthy:

[TKnight24]

I love Griff Whalen (yes, I'm a Stanford fan), but he is relatively short (actually measured 5'10' at the Stanford pro day) and other measurables are not at NFL level. And, unfortunately, he has to miss the OTAs to finsh school. Of course, he was a walk on at Stanford and ended up being one of their most reliable, most valuable players, so I would never count him out. He works hard, runs his routes perfectly and has sure hands. Hope he at least is kept for the practice squad.

As you all probably know, he was Andrew's roommate for the last three years? Coby was also part of Andrew's inner circle, not just another teammate. I love having these guys around for Andrew. Sorry the Colts couldn't have gotten David DeCastro too!!

When he enters the Draft, I say we get Toiolo (Spellcheck). But the other TE Luck had last year

[Gavin]

All HAIL Chism!!! :worthy:

hey now I like him but at this point he gets to start if Im picking only because our other Corners were awful last year with the exception of Powers, I hope Chism is the #2 but Im not counting on it

[FightLikeSin]

I think Andre Smith will be the #3 TE. Darren, Carter, & Brown are my 3 RB'

s (No Particular Order). I think we just brought Karim & Moore to add Competition & Scare the 3. And Vinatieri needs to Reitre before his Leg falls off lol

There is probably 0% chance they cut Vick Ballard since they used a pick on him this year. So I think the 3 are Brown, Carter and Ballard.

No way we only carry 6 DL.....or only 4 cbs (are you serious?).....or only 4 safeties. Seriously doubt we only carry 3 TE's, either.

Well...I could be wrong but, how many CB's and Safeties do you need? I'm looking at some 2011 rosters from last year and the average is about 5 CBs and 4 Safties on the final depth chart. I guess if I'm off by one CB, I should be thrown in the looney bin and never allowed to post here again.

[MTC]

For Moore, it would be surprising for me if he made the team. I don't see him winning a spot over Karim simply because Karim was a #2 back on JAX that actually did ok when MJD was hurt and was a great kick returner. I'd be looking to get more bang for the buck.

Cassius Vaughn might make the roster. The CB situation is such a cluster, I took my best guess.

Karim wasn't the second back. It was Rashad Jennings.

[TKnight24]

hey now I like him but at this point he gets to start if Im picking only because our other Corners were awful last year with the exception of Powers, I hope Chism is the #2 but Im not counting on it

Yeah, neither am I. Maybe he'll be the Nickel CB

[FightLikeSin]

Karim wasn't the second back. It was Rashad Jennings.

My bad. I had Karim on my Fantasy team as a KR in 2010. He was apparently the second back then, because I remember getting extra points from him when MJD went out of the game. So...he was a #2 at some point I imagine. Either way...I think he has more value than Moore in my opinion.

[Gavin]

Karim wasn't the second back. It was Rashad Jennings.

Karim came in for Jones Drew plenty, I just watch a couple games on NFL Rewind

[TKnight24]

There is probably 0% chance they cut Vick Ballard since they used a pick on him this year. So I think the 3 are Brown, Carter and Ballard.

Ahhhh!!! I forgot about Ballard. Man, our Backfield is CROWDED like these guys

[FightLikeSin]

Karim came in for Jones Drew plenty, I just watch a couple games on NFL Rewind

I knew I wasn't crazy

[Gavin]

Yeah, neither am I. Maybe he'll be the Nickel CB

I think he has a real chance as #2 Corner if he can beat out Thomas and I really dont see that as a problem but who knows

[Gavin]

I knew I wasn't crazy

he may have not been officially listed as #2 but he played the role

[TKnight24]

I think he has a real chance as #2 Corner if he can beat out Thomas and I really dont see that as a problem but who knows

Based on College Highlights I watched on YouTube of Thomas & Chism lol, Thomas is known for just Deflecting the Ball even when he could Pick it. Chism, Attacks the Ball & since he's kinda Short, he turns into a RB when he has the Ball in his Hand. IMO

[KarlKuffs]

Well...I could be wrong but, how many CB's and Safeties do you need? I'm looking at some 2011 rosters from last year and the average is about 5 CBs and 4 Safties on the final depth chart. I guess if I'm off by one CB, I should be thrown in the looney bin and never allowed to post here again.

If we only carry 6 DL and 4 CB, we wouldn't even be able to field a defense by about week 8. And usually if you carry 9 db's, one of them is a swing man who can play both cb & s. In our case, perhaps that could be Rucker or Brandon King?

Actually, I would prefer to only carry 9 dbs and use an extra body on the OL or at WR (I like your idea of carrying 6 WR's and think its definitely a possibility given the 4 WR sets we'll be running).

[KarlKuffs]

Galippo is way in over his head I think and Reitz was unimpressive against the bull rush to say the least and he gets no push in the run game, I would start Hicks

Hicks won't make the team, let alone start. Quit being so silly.

[Smonroe]

There is probably 0% chance they cut Vick Ballard since they used a pick on him this year. So I think the 3 are Brown, Carter and Ballard.

Well...I could be wrong but, how many CB's and Safeties do you need? I'm looking at some 2011 rosters from last year and the average is about 5 CBs and 4 Safties on the final depth chart. I guess if I'm off by one CB, I should be thrown in the looney bin and never allowed to post here again.

Unless there's an injury in TC I'll be shocked if those three RBs aren't on the 53. Moore may make it if Brown doesn't show the new coaches that he can block.

I thought your roster was a pretty good guess at this point.

[Gavin]

Hicks won't make the team, let alone start. Quit being so silly.

1.Have you looked at his highlights? 2.Do you even know where he played at in college?

3.Did you see Reitz get beat by the bull rush, he got no push on the line with the running game

Guards have to be physical maulers, thats not Reitz and that certainly is Hicks

[KarlKuffs]

1.Have you looked at his highlights? 2.Do you even know where he played at in college?

3.Did you see Reitz get beat by the bull rush, he got no push on the line with the running game

Guards have to be physical maulers, thats not Reitz and that certainly is Hicks

Coffeedrinker and I have already had a discussion with you, remember?

Look, Hicks is so good that 100% of people who scout and evaluate NFL players for a living decided he wasn't good enough to be drafted. I trust their opinion over yours.

[Gavin]

Coffeedrinker and I have already had a discussion with you, remember?

Look, Hicks is so good that 100% of people who scout and evaluate NFL players for a living decided he wasn't good enough to be drafted. I trust their opinion over yours.

Jason Peters went undrafted as well and he is a Left Tackle thats blind side protection right their by an undrafted player, Wes Welker, John Randle, James Harrison, Antonio Gates, Heck Jeff Saturday, very good players can be picked up and have started via the undrafted route, Scouts arent always right

[TKnight24]

PERCY HARVIN IS DEMANDING A TRADE FROM THE VIKINGS!!!! THIS WILL BE GREAT FOR US COME WEEK 2 IF THEIR STAR WR IS NOT THERE ANYMORE. Easy W in Minnesota!!

[TKnight24]

Here's the link

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d829fada5/article/percy-harvin-requests-a-trade-from-minnesota-vikings?campaign=Twitter_atl_rosenthal

[KarlKuffs]

Jason Peters went undrafted as well and he is a Left Tackle thats blind side protection right their by an undrafted player, Wes Welker, John Randle, James Harrison, Antonio Gates, Heck Jeff Saturday, very good players can be picked up and have started via the undrafted route, Scouts arent always right

I would continue this discussion with you, but i'll just get banned again. Just know that for every person you listed above, there are about 1000 that didn't make it.

[Gavin]

I would continue this discussion with you, but i'll just get banned again. Just know that for every person you listed above, there are about 1000 that didn't make it.

so you call me silly and dont give me any reason you think he will be cut and then say you wont continue to conversation or the supposed debate? Thats whats silly dont you think, Im not thinking he will start realistically, but I have no doubts he will make the team to be honest

[jimirsaysdog]

After watching these guys practice at LOS, seeing where they lined players up and my person feelings on who will get the start... this is my best guess as to the final 53 man roster at this point. Who do you think should stay or be cut from the current roster?

OFFENSE

QB : Andrew Luck, Drew Stanton, Chandler Harnish

FB : TBD

RB : Donald Brown, Delone Carter, Vick Ballard, Deji Karim

WR : Reggie Wayne, Austin Collie, Donnie Avery, T.Y. Hilton, LaVon Brazill, Jabin Sambrano

TE : Coby Fleener, Dwayne Allen, Kyle Miller

LT : Anthony Castonzo, Jeff Linkenbach

LG : Joe Reitz, Seth Olsen

C : Samson Satele, A.Q. Shipley

RG : Ben Ijalana, Mike McGlynn

RT : Winston Justice, Justin Anderson

DEFENSE

LE : Cory Redding, Drake Nevis

RE : Fili Moala

NT : Josh Chapman, Antonio Johnson, Brandon McKinney

JACK : Dwight Freeney, Jerry Hughes

WILL : Kavell Conner, Chris Galippo

MIKE : Pat Angerer, A.J. Edds

SAM : Robert Mathis, Tim Fugger, Mario Addison

CB : Jarraud Powers, Kevin Thomas, Cam Chism, Chris Rucker

FS : Antoine Bethea, Joe Lefeged

SS : Tom Zbikowski, Mike Merletti

SPECIAL TEAMS

K : Adam Vinatieri

P : Pat McAfee

LS : Justin Snow

KR : Deji Karim

PR : T.Y. Hilton

mcglynn will clearly start over ijalana.

[Mameluc]

IMO Hicks needs a year to learn before considering him starting, but i do like the big boy.

his stance is not good imo, he's feet are way to "apart" (coudlnt find the right english word for it), and he has to to learn the protections

[Mameluc]

mcglynn will clearly start over ijalana.

why is that clear?

training camp hasnt even started, and mcglynn has been career long 2nd string G/C.

[CR91]

no way we only carry 4 cbs. 5 atleast

[MTC]

I agree with Karl, Hicks starting is ridiculous. I don't see him making the roster at all.