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[w87r]

Haliburton has 0 shot attempts and 3 turnovers in the 4th quarter.

 

 

Scored the 9th most points out of our 9 players that played tonight.....

 

He needs to get his stuff together. 

 

 

Refs weren't too friendly, but this is on Haliburton, continuing bouts of disappearing.

[Myles]

Well that was a waste of time.  No fun watching the Pacers play like the Reggie Miller choke sign against the Knicks.

[2006Coltsbestever]

9 minutes ago, John Waylon said:

Hard to win when it’s 8 on 5. 

That was the worse REF'd game I have watched in a long time. They made sure the Knicks were going to win. We played better and clearly have the better team. You can't breathe on Brunson without it being a foul and that nonsense call on Myles at the end was so bad that it disgusts me to be an NBA fan. 

[John Waylon]

1 minute ago, w87r said:

Haliburton has 0 shot attempts and 3 turnovers in the 4th quarter.

 

 

Scored the 9th most points out of our 9 players that played tonight.....

 

He needs to get his stuff together. 

 

 

Refs weren't too friendly, but this is on Haliburton, continuing bouts of disappearing.

Whatever this back injury is, it’s clearly bothering him. 
 

But why in the hell was he even in the game just out there taking up space late like that? It’s not like McConnell is a liability out there, carlisle just doing more silly carlisle % by throwing Haliburton out there to play decoy while the hot hand gets extinguished on the bench. 😑

[John Waylon]

3 minutes ago, Myles said:

Well that was a waste of time.  No fun watching the Pacers play like the Reggie Miller choke sign against the Knicks.

That game was 0.000000000000000001% choked and 99.9999999999999999% robbed by zebras. 

[2006Coltsbestever]

1 minute ago, John Waylon said:

That game was 0.000000000000000001% choked and 99.9999999999999999% robbed by zebras. 

Some things never change. I tried to get back to watching, then learned tonight how the REFS still operate.

[2006Coltsbestever]

I will still watch but not happy with the REFS at all. I expected it so I shouldn't be surprised. How about Minny up 2-0 on Denver. They won both games in Denver!

[w87r]

8 hours ago, John Waylon said:

Whatever this back injury is, it’s clearly bothering him. 
 

But why in the hell was he even in the game just out there taking up space late like that? It’s not like McConnell is a liability out there, carlisle just doing more silly carlisle % by throwing Haliburton out there to play decoy while the hot hand gets extinguished on the bench. 😑

I'm not giving him a pass on the injury front. 

 

He played through it in game 6 last week, then had an additional 3-4 days off after that. He was even getting treatment during game 6 while off the court. Didn't see that last night.?(He might of been, I just didn't see it)

 

 

Unfortunately for me, it just seems to be a pattern. A pattern of inconsistency and disappearing on the floor in crucial moments/games.

 

Got a lot of work to do

[NFLfan]

I don't follow the NBA but on Sunday, my brother asked me if I was following the Knicks. I replied that he knows I don't watch the NBA. He told me I may enjoy it now because there is a lot more action. He added, "The Knicks have this kid Brunson that you have to see." When I used to follow the Temple Owls, Rick Brunson was a player for the Owls. This kid Brunson is his son.

 

I know none of the players. I even asked my brother if LeBron was still in the NBA. 😂 Is that guy Ball still in the NBA?

 

Who is the best player on the Pacers? The last time I watched a game, Oladipo was with the Pacers.  I see he no longer is.

 

I may watch a game this week.

 

[2006Coltsbestever]

1 hour ago, NFLfan said:

I don't follow the NBA but on Sunday, my brother asked me if I was following the Knicks. I replied that he knows I don't watch the NBA. He told me I may enjoy it now because there is a lot more action. He added, "The Knicks have this kid Brunson that you have to see." When I used to follow the Temple Owls, Rick Brunson was a player for the Owls. This kid Brunson is his son.

 

I know none of the players. I even asked my brother if LeBron was still in the NBA. 😂 Is that guy Ball still in the NBA?

 

Who is the best player on the Pacers? The last time I watched a game, Oladipo was with the Pacers.  I see he no longer is.

 

I may watch a game this week.

 

The REFS are still bad. Pacers pretty much got jobbed last night but it was a great entertaining game. Regarding Brunson, he played for our guy George Clooney at Villanova and won 2 National Championships in 2016 and 2018. Brunson is a fantastic player. @w87r, I sort of disagree with you about Haliburton. Rick Carlisle was on the morning show earlier and said that Haliburton is dealing with a major back issue. He did play through it vs the Bucks but it has got worse apparently. If you have a back issue (especially a major one), it takes away your ability to do almost anything. I knew something was wrong because around the 2nd Qtr he wasn't aggressive at all after that. He usually at least drives hard and makes the right pass if his shot is off.

[John Waylon]

4 hours ago, w87r said:

I'm not giving him a pass on the injury front. 

 

He played through it in game 6 last week, then had an additional 3-4 days off after that. He was even getting treatment during game 6 while off the court. Didn't see that last night.?(He might of been, I just didn't see it)

 

 

Unfortunately for me, it just seems to be a pattern. A pattern of inconsistency and disappearing on the floor in crucial moments/games.

 

Got a lot of work to do

I’ve been dealing with sciatica issues for the last several months now. Started in late February randomly one day. In my lower back on the left side, and it goes down into my buttock and even down into my upper left leg some days. Some days it’s in my leg and not my back at all.  It’s entirely random. Some days I wake up and I feel alright. Even if I don’t do anything at all that day other than move around the house and take it easy, the next day I can wake up and I have to hunch my shoulders over and look down at my shoes to stand up straight with no pain. There have been days where I’ve been in terrible pain and had to do a ton of walking at work, and then the next day I actually feel pretty good. Some days when it’s in my leg I can use a heating pad under my left buttock and upper leg and it makes walking a little easier, and then some days I could set my backside on fire and every step is as painful as the last. 
 

My point being, whatever it is he’s dealing with back there, if it’s anything like this, every day can be wildly different, and for no rhyme or reason. And this has been a thing with him since March. He was questionable down the stretch at the end of the season with this issue as well, which leads me to believe that it is indeed some kind of similar issue where it’s just luck of the draw how it bothers him day to day. Some days he’s not even questionable at all. 
 

My doctor has told me to stretch and use heat or ice (ice has done nothing for any of it other than just make me cold,) and try to rest it as much as possible, but it’s looking this this may have to head to surgery. I go later this month to start figuring out those next steps. It’ll be telling to see if Haliburton participates in USA basketball this summer. Whatever his issue is isn’t bad enough to keep him off the court, but that could be time he’s going to have to devote to resting up or other treatment instead of going to France and taking part in the games to get fully healed up. 
 

It’s almost like the shooting motion was bothering him last night. He's never been afraid to let them fly, even when he’s not hitting. But last night, even in a close late game, he wasn’t taking them. And the other guys weren’t even passing to him like they normally do. Once the ball left his hands at the top of the key it usually didn’t make its way back around to him. The only reason they wouldn’t get the ball into his hands more, especially late in a close game, would be because they knew he was dealing with something. 
 

I absolutely believe he’s dealing with something because I’m living it myself. But carlisle needs to man up and use the hook in a situation like last night where he was inhibited instead of using him as a decoy. McConnell is good enough that we don’t need a decoy out there. 

[w87r]

2 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

If you have a back issue (especially a major one), it takes away your ability to do almost anything.

I had back surgery 3-4 years ago. Pain never leaves. Have to deal with it, don't handicap your team though.

 

If you can't play through it, go sit on the bench.

 

To play the last 9:30 of the game and have 0 shot attempts, 3 turnovers cost us the game. We were already playing 5 vs 8. So that took us to 4 vs 8. 

 

That's just the offensive part of it, he already is a liability on the defensive end most nights, as it is. Im usually calling for Offensive/defensive substitutions late in games when able to.

 

 

Being used as a decoy isn't the answer. It hurt the team.

 

Who's fault that is(Carlisle, or Haliburton)? IDK, but it cost us game 1, and at the end of the day, could come back and cost us the series.

 

 

If he has a major back issues at 24, that's a bigger issue.

 

@John Waylon

Post came through while posting, think a lot here ties to your post.

 

 

 

Side Bar: 

 

I wish I could say be doesn't play like this too often, but he frustrates me a lot. So I'm not accepting his injury excuse here, everyone is dealing with something. Either play or don't. To many other occurrences of play like this to dismiss it as a pattern.

 

 

I've posted about it here a few times.

[NFLfan]

8 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

The REFS are still bad. Pacers pretty much got jobbed last night but it was a great entertaining game. Regarding Brunson, he played for our guy George Clooney at Villanova and won 2 National Championships in 2016 and 2018. Brunson is a fantastic player. 

 

Ah, that is good to know. Thanks.

[coltsfan_canada]

14 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

I will still watch but not happy with the REFS at all. I expected it so I shouldn't be surprised. How about Minny up 2-0 on Denver. They won both games in Denver!

 

Minny destroyed Den without their top defender n frustrate them so much that player throwing heat pad on floor and coach arguing yet not even a T. Imagine Draymond throwing heat pad at ref would be ejected and miss a game but different laws for different teams n players. Sick of not getting any calls 

[Myles]

23 hours ago, John Waylon said:

That game was 0.000000000000000001% choked and 99.9999999999999999% robbed by zebras. 

I admit that it was the first game I have watched in many years.  I thought the refs were pretty even between the teams.  22 of the Pacers and 19 on the Knicks.   I thought the Pacers were out of rhythm in the 4th.  There seemed to be a Pacer falling down on every play.

[2006Coltsbestever]

11 hours ago, Myles said:

I admit that it was the first game I have watched in many years.  I thought the refs were pretty even between the teams.  22 of the Pacers and 19 on the Knicks.   I thought the Pacers were out of rhythm in the 4th.  There seemed to be a Pacer falling down on every play.

It was at the end of the game where the Pacers got robbed. Knicks clearly set a much more physical screen prior to Myles' screen, and it wasn't called. The kick ball was the major call, that call isn't reviewable by NBA rules and for some reason they reviewed it anyway. That gave the Knicks the ball and they went down and made to go ahead 3. Then that offensive foul screen call on Myles was the weakest call i have seen all playoffs. He barely grazed him. Pacers down 1 with 8 seconds to go and they call that?? Yes we got robbed, REFS even apologized the next day and say they got the kick ball call wrong. Almost everyone in the media wants NY to win but they even admit we got robbed. 

 

Not really sure what you were watching but the last 2 minutes of the game was horrendously Ref'd. Haliburton didn't play well but the Reffing at the end almost made it looked rigged. 

[2006Coltsbestever]

What sucks about losing Game 1 is, it makes Game 2 a must win. We brought great energy in Game 1, our bench outscored their bench 46-3 but Brunson had a monster game to make up for most of that. Not sure all of our players can bring that kind of energy again, having said that Haliburton can't play any worse unless his back is just really bothering him badly. 

 

Can't fall down 0-2 - that is a steep hill to climb. 1-1 gives us a legit chance of winning this series. We got Game 2 at Milwaukee to tie it 1-1 and won in 6. We will see how it goes down. I can almost promise everyone this, the REFS won't be near as bad, they are on watch now. 

[teganslaw]

I probably shouldn't bet against the Celtics again. They are too good. 

 

I have some money on the Pacers. If they lose tonight, I might just forget about betting the rest of the series. Or maybe not because I like to take chances. 

[NFLfan]

I'm watching an NBA game for the first time in at least 5 years. I don't know any of the players but Turner looks familiar. 

 

My brother is right. They are playing a lot faster than what I remember in the past. It is a lot more fun.

 

Maybe I don't remember but it seems that the refs are not calling Traveling as much as they used to. Is that right? They are letting the guys play. It is much more fun to watch.

[ADnum1]

Pacers have a nice lead at halftime and should be favored to win this game.

 

No way Brunson was going to score 43 points again and Knicks just don't have alot of scoring other than him

[John Waylon]

9 minutes ago, PRnum1 said:

Pacers have a nice lead at halftime and should be favored to win this game.

And then the second half had to start…

 

[2006Coltsbestever]

Tough loss tonight. This loss is really on us unlike Game 1. Can't miss 5 FTs in a row in the 4th Qtr, we also should have put them away when we were up 12. Knicks made several clutch 3s in the 4th Qtr and we didn't. One thing is for sure, can't blame Haliburton for tonight. He had a great game.

[RollerColt]

Pretty big hole to dig out of now. Looking pretty bleak. Not impossible to get back into the fight but it's going to be very difficult. 

[John Waylon]

Moses didn’t part the * Red Sea the way we parted our defense anytime someone drove the lane last night. Out of respect for soft butter, I won’t even call our defense butter soft. It wasn’t even melted butter. It was barely even defense. 
 

And then there’s carlisle after the game trying to dump this one on the refs, too. Get * real, you clown. You treat defense like you’re deathly allergic to it, and you absolutely cannot wait to extinguish the hot hand on the bench late in games. He’s doing just as much, if not more, to * block us from winning as the Knicks and the refs in this series. 
 

We saw in the Bucks series that we can play some good defense and bother shooters. That we can stay in front of guys and actually impede them if they want to go to the basket. Last night they were chasing the ball around like dogs playing fetch, and just escorted guys to the basket any time they wanted to go. Way too many shots went up only being contested half-heartedly, if at all.
 

We just % both sides of the bed last night. Last night was the embarrassing defense the league has made fun of us for all season. TJ was giving more effort than 2 of the others on the floor combined, and he goes into witness protection in the second half of the 4th, never to be seen again. 

 

There’s no room for error left now. 

[2006Coltsbestever]

5 hours ago, RollerColt said:

Pretty big hole to dig out of now. Looking pretty bleak. Not impossible to get back into the fight but it's going to be very difficult. 

We have to win Games 3 and 4 or it is over for sure. Can't fall down 1-3. We had Game 1 in the bag but can't dwell on that now, it's history. TJ McConnell, Haliburton, Toppin, Pascal, and Turner are the 5 players that need to be in, in the last 5 minutes to finish Games 3 and 4. 

[2006Coltsbestever]

Despite being upset with the REFS after Game 1 and being down 0-2, I still don't think it is over because the Knicks are banged up. OG may not even play, and Brunson may not be at 100%. INDY has won 14 games in a row at home as well. Get this thing to 2-2 and it's anyone's series. No doom and gloom here yet. 

[John Waylon]

On a complete aside, Thibs needs to man up and just shave his head. His hair is so thin I can sit on the other side of the room and count them during a single camera shot. Theres 37 of them left up there and he needs to let them go out with a shred of dignity. Gene Keady‘s combover is scoffing at his Homer Simpson looking head. 

[2006Coltsbestever]

1 hour ago, John Waylon said:

On a complete aside, Thibs needs to man up and just shave his head. His hair is so thin I can sit on the other side of the room and count them during a single camera shot. Theres 37 of them left up there and he needs to let them go out with a shred of dignity. Gene Keady‘s combover is scoffing at his Homer Simpson looking head. 

Homer and his 3 strands of hair -  . By the way, OG has been ruled out for Game 3. Pacers catching a huge break here. This is where the Pacers depth could still win them this series, we go 9/10 deep, they only play 7. Thibs and his nervous movements and 3 strands of hair is wearing his guys out. I am starting to lean toward that we win these next 2. Winning in NY will still be extremely difficult.

[John Waylon]

2 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Homer and his 3 strands of hair -  . By the way, OG has been ruled out for Game 3. Pacers catching a huge break here. This is where the Pacers depth could still win them this series, we go 9/10 deep, they only play 7. Thibs and his nervous movements and 3 strands of hair is wearing his guys out. I am starting to lean toward that we win these next 2. Winning in NY will still be extremely difficult.

He has more hair than Tbibs! 😂

[2006Coltsbestever]

13 hours ago, John Waylon said:

He has more hair than Tbibs! 😂

[Myles]

20 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Despite being upset with the REFS after Game 1 and being down 0-2, I still don't think it is over because the Knicks are banged up. OG may not even play, and Brunson may not be at 100%. INDY has won 14 games in a row at home as well. Get this thing to 2-2 and it's anyone's series. No doom and gloom here yet. 

Down 0-2 is too much, I think, to be optimistic at all.  It could happen and I hope it does, but not being able to defend Brunson has killed the Pacers.  

[2006Coltsbestever]

2 minutes ago, Myles said:

Down 0-2 is too much, I think, to be optimistic at all.  It could happen and I hope it does, but not being able to defend Brunson has killed the Pacers.  

If we can get it too 2-2, the series will favor us because we have more depth and they are getting injury riddled. Winning the next 2 is a BIG IF though. OG is out tonight for the Knicks; we should win this one anyway. 

[Myles]

9 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

If we can get it too 2-2, the series will favor us because we have more depth and they are getting injury riddled. Winning the next 2 is a BIG IF though. OG is out tonight for the Knicks; we should win this one anyway. 

i haven't looked it up but I have to think games 3 is the game that the underdogs win the most.  

[2006Coltsbestever]

4 minutes ago, Myles said:

i haven't looked it up but I have to think games 3 is the game that the underdogs win the most.  

Depends on the series. If it is 1-1, I think it is different. I have a hard time believing the Pacers will lose 3 straight games. The Pacers have to good of a team for that despite Brunson's greatness. They were in both Games 1 and 2 and could've won either.

[2006Coltsbestever]

Rick Carlisle fined $35K for blasting REFS . I thought it would be more actually. I was thinking $50K. 

[Myles]

21 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Depends on the series. If it is 1-1, I think it is different. I have a hard time believing the Pacers will lose 3 straight games. The Pacers have to good of a team for that despite Brunson's greatness. They were in both Games 1 and 2 and could've won either.

But even with a win, the Pacers are still down 1-2.   I'll be rooting for them.  May tune in for a bit.  

[2006Coltsbestever]

16 minutes ago, Myles said:

But even with a win, the Pacers are still down 1-2.   I'll be rooting for them.  May tune in for a bit.  

One game at a time but I agree we need to win both at home. If it gets to 2-2 it will be anyone's series. Have to get tonight first.

[ADnum1]

Pacers up by 8 at the end of the first !

[w87r]

Knew as soon as Pascal got his 2nd foul, that Brunson would flop for his 3rd soon.

 

 

Happened even sooner than I imagined....

[w87r]

On 5/8/2024 at 11:28 PM, 2006Coltsbestever said:

One thing is for sure, can't blame Haliburton for tonight. He had a great game

He had a great game if looking at final stats(should've scored 40 in all actuality), but it could've been better.  He played great in the 1st half(22pts) and all but disappeared in the 2nd half(9pts).

 

Only took 1 shot in the 3rd quarter, even Stan Van Gundy called it out on the live broadcast. Said he didn't know what Haliburton was doing.

 

 

Hopefully he comes to play in the 2nd half tonight. 1st half very reminiscent of game 2.

 

 

Eastern Conference is wide open right now. Win tonight we have a good a chance as anybody.

 

 

Probably seems I'm a little over critical of Haliburton? Probably because I am, he is supposed to be the face of the organization. That comes with high expectations. Time to deliver, at least show up.

 

So far he has shown up for 1st half of game 2, and 1st half of game 3.

 

 

 

Already has 5pts tonight in 2nd half. So far so good.