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By smittywerb · Posted
Not only do I think we should’ve picked up the option, but I think we should retain him if he’s not too expensive. He may not be the complete DE we want him to be, but he’s serviceable. And it’s hard to find serviceable DEs. Him and Latu would be a solid rotation and also gives us depth in case of injury. -
By cdgacoltsfan · Posted
Good. I'm glad you get it now. -
By Indianapolis-Colts-Fan · Posted
The defense plays better when Paye is out there. Like him or not. The defense as a whole just plays better when he’s on the field. -
By Colt Overseas · Posted
I'm good with picking up the option. I kind of agree a little with Ballard that there is more upside to Paye on passing downs. He is a good athlete and he has improved each season. Important that he says healthy, he was quite a raw prospect coming out of college and was then injured alot in his first 2 seasons in the NFL. So I can see why Ballard would like him around for another 2 years to see how much they can improve him. He's also an excellent run defender, which is important to note, especially in that LDE role. -
By NewColtsFan · Posted
Doug…. I’ve just read your latest two posts. And as has been the recent trend, I don’t understand your logic. So I’ve got a long post to respond to your long post. So let me ask you an important question: Have you noticed in the last month or so that I am responding to your posts very slowly? I’m taking 8, 10, even 12 hours to respond. I’m doing it deliberately. I don’t want us to be going back and forth and back and forth while we’re both awake. I’m trying to slow the pace of communication so things don’t get heated. So I’m not trying to pick a fight, I’m trying to AVOID a fight. As to your two posts…. I think your memory is playing tricks with you. Ballard said “let’s take the wide receiver” this draft for Mitchell. His quote in 2022 after the Colts had no pick in the first round was this…. “Tomorrow, wide receiver, tight end, tackle, and safety or corner.” What did Ballard do? He took those 4 positions in that order. But not until he had traded DOWN from 35 to 53 for Pierce. That was Reich’s personal pick. Ballard was confident the players would be there and they were. Not possible if everyone has same info as you assert. Do you remember the 2019 draft when Ballard took Rock, Benagu, Campbell, and Okereke on Day 2, that was the first year of the popular video series and the most memorable sound was Frank going around the war room high fiving everyone yelling “Four for Four! Four for Four!” Those were the guys Frank wanted, those were the guys Ballard got him. Not possible if every team sees things the same. The story of the 21 draft was the Colts picking 21. And Ballard telling the scouts he had a good feeling that Paye, who the Colts ranked 10th on their board, would fall to the Colts. And he did. Ballard thought Dayo would fall to pick 54, and he said he likely would’ve taken Dayo at 21 if Paye had been taken. Ballard was right again. And again, not possible if everyone sees things the same. Historically speaking…. In 2012, Seattle had Russell Wilson ranked THIRD on their board. But they waited to draft him at pick 75 because they thought at 5’10” and 5/8ths, RW would still be there. And he was. That wouldn’t be possible if everyone had mostly similar rankings as you believe. As for Reimann: picked 77. You talk about his value as a left tackle. Yet he lasted to pick 77. Any other team could’ve taken him before the Colts did. They didn’t. Yet you think it has nothing to do with his age. I don’t understand the logic you use to reject the age argument. I don’t see an alternative view that makes sense. All of these are examples of teams seeing the same thing differently. They value things differently. When asked recently, Steichen said he valued quickness in a wide receiver. For other teams they might value speed, or precision route running. Every team has its own identity based on what they value. GMs are different. Head coaches are different. Scouts are different. They are NOT working with the same information. Every team has their own Big Board and the differences are big, not small. 32 teams, 32 very very different looking boards. I’m 67. I have literally studied the draft for more than 50 years. The draft has always been a passion of mine, even before I became a TV sports producer at age 23. I’m not making this up. This post could be longer, but I think it’s gone long enough. There was much to talk about. Thanks for reading.
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