IndySouthsider Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 22 minutes ago, EastStreet said: yet it tracks pretty well simple performance metrics, talking heads, and Ws and Ls... nothing is perfect. it's just another, ratings system. a lot better than most "eyes" Negative. It really doesn’t actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastStreet Posted November 3, 2019 Author Share Posted November 3, 2019 28 minutes ago, IndySouthsider said: Negative. It really doesn’t actually. I'm a stat head, and they actually do a pretty decent job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndySouthsider Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 8 minutes ago, EastStreet said: I'm a stat head, and they actually do a pretty decent job. How did the stats do ahead of SB42 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastStreet Posted November 3, 2019 Author Share Posted November 3, 2019 5 minutes ago, IndySouthsider said: How did the stats do ahead of SB42 we're talking about stats as grades, not as predictors of outcomes. but on the topic, if the Pats play the NYGs 100 times, how many times do you think the NYGs win. outliers happen all the time. it's why they play the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndySouthsider Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 33 minutes ago, EastStreet said: we're talking about stats as grades, not as predictors of outcomes. but on the topic, if the Pats play the NYGs 100 times, how many times do you think the NYGs win. outliers happen all the time. it's why they play the game. Good thing they only play once. Games are won on the football field. Not in a stat sheet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastStreet Posted November 3, 2019 Author Share Posted November 3, 2019 1 minute ago, IndySouthsider said: Good thing they only play once. Games are won on the football field. Not in a stat sheet. again, were talking about stats as grades.... but you know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndySouthsider Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, EastStreet said: again, were talking about stats as grades.... but you know that. And they don’t mean any more than those * rankings. Worthless, but enjoy them if they make you feel special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastStreet Posted November 3, 2019 Author Share Posted November 3, 2019 Just now, IndySouthsider said: And they don’t mean any more than those * rankings. Worthless, but enjoy them if they make you feel special. not special, just better informed. besides. my mom says i'm already special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SteelCityColt Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 11 hours ago, IndySouthsider said: PFF is a pile of useless nerd numbers. Fun to look at but don’t amount to feces on Sunday. Then why do a large number of NFL teams employ their services? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelCityColt Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 5 hours ago, EastStreet said: we're talking about stats as grades, not as predictors of outcomes. but on the topic, if the Pats play the NYGs 100 times, how many times do you think the NYGs win. outliers happen all the time. it's why they play the game. Don’t get me started on trying to explain the nuances of data/stats/predictive modelling... it’s a day to day pain point professionally. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 13 hours ago, IndySouthsider said: PFF is a pile of useless nerd numbers. Fun to look at but don’t amount to feces on Sunday. I am actually not a fan of PFF either but tell us how you really feel about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndySouthsider Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 3 hours ago, SteelCityColt said: Then why do a large number of NFL teams employ their services? I would have to see physical objective evidence of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelCityColt Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 5 minutes ago, IndySouthsider said: I would have to see physical objective evidence of this. As in? I mean it's front and center on PFF's own website for one: https://www.pff.com/team-services Not really surprising considering who the CEO of PFF is. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Colts Fan Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 11 minutes ago, IndySouthsider said: I would have to see physical objective evidence of this. What if I told you... Quote “One of the things we asked Mike at the beginning of the year was always look at stacks and bunches. We always feel like stacks and bunches is important to understand how things play out. He is our stacks and bunches guru. We use PFF [Pro Football Focus] to give us a folder of stacks and bunches every week.” – Super Bowl LII Champion Offensive Coordinator, Frank Reich 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastStreet Posted November 3, 2019 Author Share Posted November 3, 2019 9 hours ago, SteelCityColt said: Don’t get me started on trying to explain the nuances of data/stats/predictive modelling... it’s a day to day pain point professionally. I no what you mean. we should have predicted Hoyer tossing a TD on his first play from scrimmage :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastStreet Posted November 3, 2019 Author Share Posted November 3, 2019 5 hours ago, Lucky Colts Fan said: What if I told you... LOL... you're rolling with the quotes this week 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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