tvturner Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Wanted to take a look at the class, as of 4-15-15 here are some notable players: QuarterbacksEli Manning NYGPhilip Rivers SDSam Bradford PHIRussell Wilson SEARyan Tannehill MIANick Foles STLCam Newton CARRobert Griffin III WAS RunningbacksMatt Forte CHIReggie Bush SFAlfred Morris WASLeGarrette Blount NEStevan Ridley NYJ Wide ReceiversDemaryius Thomas DENDez Bryant DALA.J. Green CINJulio Jones ATLAnquan Boldin SFPercy Harvin BUFKendall Wright TENT.Y. Hilton INDMohamed Sanu CINAlshon Jeffrey CHIMichael Crabtree OAK Tight EndsAntonio Gates SDDwayne Allen INDCoby Fleener INDVernon Davis SFMercedes Lewis JAX TacklesTrent Williams WASNate Solder NEAndre Smith CINMatt Kalil MINAnthony Castonzo INDRussell Okung SEAAndrew Whitworth CIN GuardsAlex Boone SFMarshal Yanda BALKevin Zeitler CIN Defensive EndsJason Pierre-Paul NYGCameron Jordan NO Greg Hardy DALJustin Tuck OAKMuhammed Wilkerson NYJChandler Jones NEOlivier Vernon MIA Defensive TacklesHaloti Ngata DETNick Fairley STLMarcell Dareus BUFBrandon Mebane SEATerrance Knighton WASDontari Poe KCDamon Harrison NYJ Outside LinebackersJustin Houston KCVon Miller DENRyan Kerrigan WASTamba Hali KCBruce Irvin SEAAldon Smith SFThomas Davis CARLavonte David TB Inside LinebackersLuke Kuechly CARRolando McClain DALDont'a Hightower NEBobby Wagner SEA Jerrell Freeman INDDemario Davis NYJPaul Worrilow ATL CornerbacksJohnathan Joseph HOUSean Smith KCJimmy Smith BALPrince Amukamara NYGGreg Toler INDLeon Hall CINAdam Jones CIN SafetiesEric Berry KCEric Weddle SDRodney McLeod STLTashaun Gipson CLEHarrison Smith MINCharles Woodson OAKLouis Delmas MIA Kickers/PuntersGreg Zuerline STLJustin Tucker BALAdam Vinatieri INDStephen Gostkowski NEBlair Walsh MINSam Koch BALMarquette King OAKShane Lechler OAK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 We could get like two 3rd rounders and maybe a 4th if we let those FAs walk and don't sing anyone of note. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colts_Fan12 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 We could get like two 3rd rounders and maybe a 4th if we let those FAs walk and don't sing anyone of note. but losing TY would blow and I don't mind letting Fleener walk but I think Allen will have a good year this year so losing him would suck too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 but losing TY would blow and I don't mind letting Fleener walk but I think Allen will have a good year this year so losing him would suck tooYeah, me neither, but worse case scenario could still yeild us a couple mid round picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvturner Posted April 16, 2015 Author Share Posted April 16, 2015 but losing TY would blow and I don't mind letting Fleener walk but I think Allen will have a good year this year so losing him would suck tooI'd rather have Fleener over Allen because of injuries but we'll see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colts_Fan12 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Yeah, me neither, but worse case scenario could still yeild us a couple mid round picks. I know what ya mean I also personally really like Allen lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colts_Fan12 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I'd rather have Fleener over Allen because of injuries but we'll see give the guy a chance to bounce back he's better then Fleener when healthy he could be a top TE in this league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvturner Posted April 16, 2015 Author Share Posted April 16, 2015 give the guy a chance to bounce back he's better then Fleener when healthy he could be a top TE in this leagueLet's keep em both ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colts_Fan12 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Let's keep em both ;) as long as we don't overpay for Fleener i wouldn't mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvturner Posted April 16, 2015 Author Share Posted April 16, 2015 We could get like two 3rd rounders and maybe a 4th if we let those FAs walk and don't sing anyone of note.Do you not want Hilton or Allen/Fleener back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvturner Posted April 16, 2015 Author Share Posted April 16, 2015 Do you not want Hilton or Allen/Fleener back? We could get like two 3rd rounders and maybe a 4th if we let those FAs walk and don't sing anyone of note.I get what you mean now, its late, apologies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelba01 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Some of these players would be nice for the right price Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewColtsFan Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 We could get like two 3rd rounders and maybe a 4th if we let those FAs walk and don't sing anyone of note. Perhaps, but we're not going to let TY Hilton walk. Nor are we letting ACastanzo walk either. Not happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loudnproudcolt Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I think several of those QB's are going to be available, and teams will not resign them or pick up the option year. Eli Manning has had two hot runs for SB's, but is he worth 20M. Griffin unless he is super this year will not get his option picked up. I don't know what will happen with Rivers, but it should make the draft interesting early on. One name as far as QB's who is not on there who I think will be a FA is Drew Brees. He counts about 27.5 against the cap next year, and is not signed for 2017. Plus letting him go next year saves 20M in cap space, and they are in rebuilding mode, made obvious by all the trades and players let go this year. I wonder who picks him up, since I don't know how many years he has left. He is 35 this year. I wish we would get Hilton's deal done this summer, because all those receivers I would want are not going to be available, but it will be a good FA season next year. Trouble is, once Hilton, Luck, Fleener, Allen, and Castonzo are resigned, I don't know what kind of cap we will have left. Anyone familiar with what our cap should look like if we take into account Hilton-10M, Luck-22M, Fleener and Allen-5M each a yr. and Castonzo 8M a year. It may be a couple million low, but using those as measuring sticks, What will our cap look like. I know as far as rookies, we will only need about 1M per over the cap to sign all our rookies due to the lateness of picks, and then we have to release players to put them on the squad. I would love at least the suggestion of what our cap space will be after signing all our stars next offseason. Structuring is a different matter, and will impact it, but we can't really worry about that since we just don't know. Just want to know if we will have money to pursue any FA's. We have a ton of cap space next year it looks like thank goodness, but after the signings, who knows???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loudnproudcolt Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 If we are still having problem with LB's and have any money, Baltimore will wait to sign there FA's, as they always wait to see offers, and then look for the comps. plus I am surprised Lavonte David has not been extended. Many of these FA's won't be here after the summer, extensions are usually done in the summer, after June 1 cuts. Still would love Hightower. Would like Wagner more, but he is Seattle's highest priority to get resigned after Wilson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDakColts Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I'd rather have Fleener over Allen because of injuries but we'll seeI get your point as Fleener has been able to stay on the field when Allen has not. However there is a huge difference in their overall games. Allen is the complete TE that most teams look for when they draft. He is a receiving threat especially in the endzone, but can also line up on the line of scrimmage and run block with the best of them. Now Fleener is the better receiving threat (deep threat) and is starting to come on as of late, but if I had to choose one I would probably go with Allen because of his all around game. Let's keep em both ;)That is better thinking ha as I would like to keep both too as they compliment each other well, as long as we don't overpay Fleener. He is pretty much a one trick pony and with our power run offense we need TEs that can run block. I will give Fleener credit though his run blocking has been getting better slowly although it is still not good, it is better than what it used to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDakColts Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 If we don't draft a corner this year I hope we take a nice long look at Jimmy Smith to replace Toler. He will be younger than Toler, and I think he is a perfect scheme fit for what we run here, he would be great across from Vontae IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrNLM Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Some may have already thought about this but... if we win the Super Bowl this season... we should be prepared to only keep two(maybe three, maybe) of our free agents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Wanted to take a look at the class, as of 4-15-15 here are some notable players: QuarterbacksEli Manning NYGPhilip Rivers SDSam Bradford PHIRussell Wilson SEARyan Tannehill MIANick Foles STLCam Newton CARRobert Griffin III WAS RunningbacksMatt Forte CHIReggie Bush SFAlfred Morris WASLeGarrette Blount NEStevan Ridley NYJ Wide ReceiversDemaryius Thomas DENDez Bryant DALA.J. Green CINJulio Jones ATLAnquan Boldin SFPercy Harvin BUFKendall Wright TENT.Y. Hilton INDMohamed Sanu CINAlshon Jeffrey CHIMichael Crabtree OAK Tight EndsAntonio Gates SDDwayne Allen INDCoby Fleener INDVernon Davis SFMercedes Lewis JAX TacklesTrent Williams WASNate Solder NEAndre Smith CINMatt Kalil MINAnthony Castonzo INDRussell Okung SEAAndrew Whitworth CIN GuardsAlex Boone SFMarshal Yanda BALKevin Zeitler CIN Defensive EndsJason Pierre-Paul NYGCameron Jordan NO Greg Hardy DALJustin Tuck OAKMuhammed Wilkerson NYJChandler Jones NEOlivier Vernon MIA Defensive TacklesHaloti Ngata DETNick Fairley STLMarcell Dareus BUFBrandon Mebane SEATerrance Knighton WASDontari Poe KCDamon Harrison NYJ Outside LinebackersJustin Houston KCVon Miller DENRyan Kerrigan WASTamba Hali KCBruce Irvin SEAAldon Smith SFThomas Davis CARLavonte David TB Inside LinebackersLuke Kuechly CARRolando McClain DALDont'a Hightower NEBobby Wagner SEA Jerrell Freeman INDDemario Davis NYJPaul Worrilow ATL CornerbacksJohnathan Joseph HOUSean Smith KCJimmy Smith BALPrince Amukamara NYGGreg Toler INDLeon Hall CINAdam Jones CIN SafetiesEric Berry KCEric Weddle SDRodney McLeod STLTashaun Gipson CLEHarrison Smith MINCharles Woodson OAKLouis Delmas MIA Kickers/PuntersGreg Zuerline STLJustin Tucker BALAdam Vinatieri INDStephen Gostkowski NEBlair Walsh MINSam Koch BALMarquette King OAKShane Lechler OAK Most of these players are very unlikely to hit free agency. I didn't cross out either of our TEs because there's a chance that we let both of them play out their contracts, then choose one of them to keep. A chance, maybe not a good one. If Allen didn't have some injuries, I'd expect him to be an automatic keep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Some may have already thought about this but... if we win the Super Bowl this season... we should be prepared to only keep two(maybe three, maybe) of our free agents. I expect our free agents to be extended before the season starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colts_Fan12 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Sure would be awesome to have Poe lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrNLM Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I expect our free agents to be extended before the season starts.I would hope so but, with Pagano playing out his contract you don't think that some of our free agent moves become a bit more complicated and treated as a "wait and see" situation? I could see that being the case for Vinny, Freeman, and Toler. I think Vinny is probably done after this season. Toler is meh stay or go. The only two locks I see are TY and Costanzo. TEs are a close second and if they don't come back... our offense will struggle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I would hope so but, with Pagano playing out his contract you don't think that some of our free agent moves become a bit more complicated and treated as a "wait and see" situation? I could see that being the case for Vinny, Freeman, and Toler. I think Vinny is probably done after this season. Toler is meh stay or go. The only two locks I see are TY and Costanzo. TEs are a close second and if they don't come back... our offense will struggle. The only ones I was thinking about were the young guys. I think Vinny is done. Freeman isn't critical. Toler can go. I think AC and Hilton are definitely locks. The TEs are probably locks, but I said above that I could letting them play out their deals and picking one to keep. I don't think any of this is going to be affected significantly by Pagano's contract status. If you offer any of these guys a long term deal, I don't think they're going to say "yeah, that looks good, but let me wait and see what Pagano does." I think they'd sign on the line that is dotted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valpo2004 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 but losing TY would blow and I don't mind letting Fleener walk but I think Allen will have a good year this year so losing him would suck too Honestly I don't think we could afford to lose AC, TY, Fleener or Allen. Unbeknownst to many people Fleener has been a top 10 TE for the last 2 years in terms of receiving yards. Allen is a redzone guy and a great blocker. If we draft a CB high I'd let Toler walk. Also we could consider letting Freeman walk as well. Vinny I think it's def. time to let him walk and find ourselves a younger kicker. Don't think we should do much in FA next year, just extend our current guys and draft well for the next 2 years. We need to start replacing our expensive free agent players with players that we drafted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12isthenew18 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 like 70% will not hit the market Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealityIsLuck Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Nice crop of WR's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealityIsLuck Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Nice crop of WR's, OT's, DE's, and Edge guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvturner Posted April 16, 2015 Author Share Posted April 16, 2015 Nice crop of WR's, OT's, DE's, and Edge guysNow lets hope some of them are available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelba01 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Nice crop of WR's, OT's, DE's, and Edge guysIf you had your choice of 1 from each, who would you take? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelba01 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 The only ones I was thinking about were the young guys. I think Vinny is done. Freeman isn't critical. Toler can go. I think AC and Hilton are definitely locks. The TEs are probably locks, but I said above that I could letting them play out their deals and picking one to keep. I don't think any of this is going to be affected significantly by Pagano's contract status. If you offer any of these guys a long term deal, I don't think they're going to say "yeah, that looks good, but let me wait and see what Pagano does." I think they'd sign on the line that is dotted.Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvturner Posted April 17, 2015 Author Share Posted April 17, 2015 If you had your choice of 1 from each, who would you take?95% will probably be resigned but in my personal opinion, Dez Bryant, Trent Williams, and Muhammed Wilkerson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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