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Welcome back everybody, and Colts football is  finally back in action on the playing field for the 2014 NFL season!  :)   Our  2014 Indianapolis Colts officially begin their both  62nd season in the NFL, and their 31st season in Indianapolis, Indiana.  Tonight's play also commences third season with the Colts franchise for Head Coach Chuck Pagano, General Manager Ryan Grigson, and veteran star QB Andrew Luck.  Colts are also the two time defending AFC South Division Champions, and seek to better their 11-5 record later in the regular season.


Colts are in New Jersey to play the host New York Jets with  kickoff right after 7:00PM Eastern Standard Time from MetLife Stadium at the Meadowlands  in East Rutherford. Colts @ N.Y  Jets game also lead off Week One of the 2014 NFL Preseason Schedule with the rest of the NFL teams through Saturday Night.


Don Fischer and Barry Krauss are announcing the TV commentary and analysis on all the Colts televised preseason games locally on WNDY My Network Channel 23 in Indianapolis, live on HD. Tonight's Colts/N.Y. Jets game will also be replayed later on national cable on The NFL Network on Friday afternoon August 8, at 1:00PM EST,  early Saturday morning, August 9, at 3:00AM EST, and Tuesday afternoon, August 12, and 4:00PM EST, all game  replays also televised  live on HD.


Veteran broadcaster Bob Lamey, our 'Voice Of The Indianapolis Colts,' also announces the live radio game play-by play. Joining Bob providing the live radio game analysis for the third straight NFL season is former Wisconsin Badger, Colt, and N.Y. Giant QB Jim Sorgi, the live game coverage simulcast tonight on flagship stations WFNI ESPN SportsRadio 1070AM, and WLHK 97,1 FM, and the Colts/Vectren Radio Network throughout Indiana, Illinois, and Kentucky.


Clear and sunny skies at 81 degrees, feels like 80 degrees, is the local weather forecast inside  MetLife Stadium for the 7:05PM Eastern Standard Time kickoff, along with  36% humidity, 10% precipitation, and mild northwest winds at 10 miles per hour.


Colts are wearing their road white jerseys and pants on the playing field, while the N.Y. Jets wear their white jerseys and pants.


Most of the reserve players, including rookies, undrafted free agents, and veterans may take the majority of the playing time and action as all the players begin to audition to earn themselves into the final 53-man regular season roster.


NO injuries to both of the players from both the Colts and New York Jets, as they play  to impress their coaches worthy to play in the upcoming regular season later next month with the starting players. Continue to stay Colts Strong, and GO COLTS!!!!!    :thmsup:   :coltslogo:  :nfl:  :1colts:  :colts:  :coltshorse:  :helmet:  :pass:  :coltslogo:  :D



Colts @ N.Y. Jets  Preseason Pregame Press Release  (Adobe PDF Reader):




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