ColtsBlueFL Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Defending the read option is all about discipline and good tackling, two things we didn't show much of today. With film study and better positioning, those two things can get better. I'm glad we faced this challenge before we go play the Niners. I just don't think we have enough overall D talent or time for necessary improvement. If we are to suffer a blowout (like we did a few times last season), this one is potentially it. I hope I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColtsBlueFL Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Kaep will not need to use his running skills like Pryor. He has great pocket passing skills and weapons. His running will be opportunistic, just Like Andrew Luck on his 19 yard TD scamper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corgi Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 FYI....even if he does rip us to pieces, it only counts as one loss? Right?IF the Colts get blown out by the 49ers this will be the type reaction you will be able to expect around here.... "OMG!!!! Colin Kaepernick threw 87 touchdowns, for 4,000 yards, and had an additional 18 td's on the ground for 900 yards. Then volcanoes came out of the ground and spewed blood into the sky, and then it formed into Avril Lavigne’s face and she recited the Good Will Hunting screenplay and then the words turned into sentient razors and just bored into your flesh.Then the townspeople stormed Lucas Oil Stadium with pitchforks and torches in hand, and offered Chuck Pagano and Ryan Grigson as sacrifice to the Elder Gods.Then in a fit of hysteria the forum fans demanded the reinstatement of Jim Caldwell, and the release of Andrew Luck and mediocrity held sway!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodtimes Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 yeah, its not like he is bigger and stronger than every guy running itn. although i don't want him to He isn't bigger and stronger than Cam Newton or Pryor.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OffensivelyPC Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 What would you guys think if we ran some read option with Luck :clap:I don't know about the read option, but I could see us utilizing the pistol offense. Even Manning used it some on Thursday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 I don't know about the read option, but I could see us utilizing the pistol offense. Even Manning used it some on Thursday. The Broncos used the pistol extensively in preseason. Just a hybrid formation that they'll run out of, maybe some play action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 I just don't think we have enough overall D talent or time for necessary improvement. If we are to suffer a blowout (like we did a few times last season), this one is potentially it. I hope I'm wrong. We're not suddenly going to be better tacklers, but we might potentially get better at getting into position, and you miss fewer tackles when you are where you're supposed to be. I don't think the issue is talent at all. It's entirely about execution. Our secondary was pretty good yesterday, and the defensive front was good at stopping their running backs and even pressuring Pryor. We just over pursued on designed QB runs and then didn't tackle well. All fixable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColtsBlueFL Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 We're not suddenly going to be better tacklers, but we might potentially get better at getting into position, and you miss fewer tackles when you are where you're supposed to be. I don't think the issue is talent at all. It's entirely about execution. Our secondary was pretty good yesterday, and the defensive front was good at stopping their running backs and even pressuring Pryor. We just over pursued on designed QB runs and then didn't tackle well. All fixable. It is still early, but I am wondering if our guys are fast enough or have good enough instincts to be able to make plays in space. That's talent, They will have to be coached to read the right keys, maintain discipline, and clog the lanes before someone gets out in space. Then maybe they can execute a proper tackle (jury still out there too). But if they don't, we may look less than average at containing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvan1973 Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 He isn't bigger and stronger than Cam Newton or Pryor....basically the same size as both. much bigger than bob, wilson and kaepernick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodtimes Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 basically the same size as both. much bigger than bob, wilson and kaepernick No. They outweigh him and both are 6'6". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 No. They outweigh him and both are 6'6". http://www.nfl.com/player/camnewton/2495455/profilehttp://www.nfl.com/player/terrellepryor/2531332/profilehttp://www.nfl.com/player/andrewluck/2533031/profile Cam Newton is listed as 6'5", 245 pounds. Terrelle Pryor is listed as 6'4", 233 pounds. Andrew Luck is listed as 6'4", 239 pounds. So he's actually bigger than Pryor, and very insignificantly smaller than Newton. But quite honestly, all three are about the same size. To say that they're not is nitpicking at its absolute finest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvan1973 Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 No. They outweigh him and both are 6'6".neither are 6'6 and luck weighs more than pryor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvan1973 Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 http://www.nfl.com/player/camnewton/2495455/profilehttp://www.nfl.com/player/terrellepryor/2531332/profilehttp://www.nfl.com/player/andrewluck/2533031/profileCam Newton is listed as 6'5", 245 pounds. Terrelle Pryor is listed as 6'4", 233 pounds. Andrew Luck is listed as 6'4", 239 pounds. So he's actually bigger than Pryor, and very insignificantly smaller than Newton. But quite honestly, all three are about the same size. To say that they're not is nitpicking at its absolute finest.that's what i was getting at. very similar in size Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvan1973 Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 am i the only one that thinks kaepernick looks like Marlon Brandos little friend in the movie island of dr moroue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodtimes Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 http://www.nfl.com/player/camnewton/2495455/profilehttp://www.nfl.com/player/terrellepryor/2531332/profilehttp://www.nfl.com/player/andrewluck/2533031/profile Cam Newton is listed as 6'5", 245 pounds. Terrelle Pryor is listed as 6'4", 233 pounds. Andrew Luck is listed as 6'4", 239 pounds. So he's actually bigger than Pryor, and very insignificantly smaller than Newton. But quite honestly, all three are about the same size. To say that they're not is nitpicking at its absolute finest. I have seen both Newton and Pryor listed at 6'6". Who knows what the truth really is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 I have seen both Newton and Pryor listed at 6'6". Who knows what the truth really is. That's why I used the NFL.com profiles. It uses information from the team. They measure and give the information out. So I'm gonna go with their numbers as official, if you don't mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvan1973 Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 I have seen both Newton and Pryor listed at 6'6". Who knows what the truth really is.where have you seen either listed at 6'6" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvan1973 Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 his size could be a problem at some point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodtimes Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 where have you seen either listed at 6'6" I don't remember but I do remember one of the TV guys saying he was 6'6". It isn't that big of a deal. People lie about that kind of thing all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvan1973 Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 I don't remember but I do remember one of the TV guys saying he was 6'6". It isn't that big of a deal. People lie about that kind of thing all the time.well neither are 6'6". And they are both about the same size as luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 well neither are 6'6". And they are both about the same size as luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Colts are in real trouble this game. I just hope we can keep the loss under 3 TDS. We need a win this weekend so we don't start out 1-2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllYouNeedIsLuck Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Colts are in real trouble this game. I just hope we can keep the loss under 3 TDS. We need a win this weekend so we don't start out 1-2have some faith, bubba Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedBlu8792 Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 http://www.nfl.com/player/camnewton/2495455/profilehttp://www.nfl.com/player/terrellepryor/2531332/profilehttp://www.nfl.com/player/andrewluck/2533031/profile Cam Newton is listed as 6'5", 245 pounds. Terrelle Pryor is listed as 6'4", 233 pounds. Andrew Luck is listed as 6'4", 239 pounds. So he's actually bigger than Pryor, and very insignificantly smaller than Newton. But quite honestly, all three are about the same size. To say that they're not is nitpicking at its absolute finest. I'm not really sure I would rely on their information as being completely true. Marvin was listed at 6' and having stood by him, and I'm 6'3, Marvin wasn't 6' with cleats on. Cato June is another example in that they had him listed at 220 and even he admitted in an interview that his listed weight was "generous" and that he played closer to 210 than 220. Not to say that their profiles are "way off", but I wouldn't call them competely accurate either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 I'm not really sure I would rely on their information as being completely true. Marvin was listed at 6' and having stood by him, and I'm 6'3, Marvin wasn't 6' with cleats on. Cato June is another example in that they had him listed at 220 and even he admitted in an interview that his listed weight was "generous" and that he played closer to 210 than 220. Not to say that their profiles are "way off", but I wouldn't call them competely accurate either. Yeah, the guy on the Internet is much more reliable. I get what you're saying, but I'm much more prone to believe the team's measurements than some guy who is eyeballing how tall someone is from in front of their TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColtStrong Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 I just don't think we have enough overall D talent or time for necessary improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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