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By NewColtsFan · Posted
Doug…. I’ve just read your latest two posts. And as has been the recent trend, I don’t understand your logic. So I’ve got a long post to respond to your long post. So let me ask you an important question: Have you noticed in the last month or so that I am responding to your posts in the middle of the night? I’m doing it deliberately. I don’t want us to be going back and forth and back and forth while we’re both awake. I’m trying to slow the pace of communication so things don’t get heated. So I’m not trying to pick a fight, I’m trying to AVOID a fight. By the way, I think your memory is playing tricks with you. Ballard said “let’s take the wide receiver” this draft for Mitchell. His quote in 2022 after the Colts had no pick in the first round was this…. “Tomorrow wide receiver, tight end, tackle, and safety or corner.” What did Ballard do? He took those 4 positions in that order. But not until he had traded DOWN from 35 to 53 for Pierce. That was Reich’s personal pick. Ballard was confident the players would be there and they were. Do you remember the 2019 draft when Ballard took Rock, Benagu, Campbell, and Okereke on Day 2, that was the first year of the popular video series and the most memorable sound was Frank going around the war room high fiving everyone yelling “Four for Four! Four for Four!” Those were the guys Frank wanted, those were the guys Ballard got him. Not possible if every team sees things the same. The story of the 21 draft was the Colts picking 21. And Ballard telling the scouts he had a good feeling that Paye, who the Colts ranked 10th on their board, would fall to the Colts. And he did. Ballard thought Dayo would fall to pick 54, and he said he likely would’ve taken Dayo at 21 if Paye had been taken. Ballard was right again. Historically speaking…. In 2012, Seattle had Russell Wilson ranked THIRD on their board. But they waited to draft him at pick 75 because they thought at 5’10” and 5/8ths, RW would still be there. And he was. That wouldn’t be possible if everyone had mostly similar rankings as you believe. All of these are examples of teams seeing the same thing differently. They value things differently. When asked recently, Steichen said he valued quickness in a wide receiver. For other teams they might value speed, or precision route running. Every team has its own identity based on what they value. GMs are different. Head coaches are different. Scouts are different. They are NOT working with the same information. Every team has their own Big Board and the differences are big, not small. 32 teams, 32 very very different looking boards. I’m 67. I have literally studied the draft for more than 50 years. The draft has always been a passion of mine, even before I became a TV sports producer at age 23. I’m not making this up. This post could be longer, but I think it’s gone long enough. There was much to talk about. Thanks for reading. -
Next year imagine the Colts will be looking at 2 QBs. My top dual threat/mobile pocket passers are Jalen Milroe, Grayson McCall, and KJ Jefferson. For offensive lineman got to love LT Kelvin Banks Jr who managed to hold his own versus Will Anderson a few years ago and LG Donovan Jackson. Jackson has generated all-conference honors the past two seasons; Nelson's contract expires at the end of 2026 where he will be 30 years old. So far for running backs I like Treveyon Henderson, DJ Giddens, and Kyle Monangai. Each back knows how to secure the rock. Last I checked both Dalvin Cook and Damien Harris are still free agents that would improve our roster. Not sure if we need a top talented wide receiver early but am interested in Tre Harris and Ricky White. While De'Corian Clark been compared to Alec Pierce and made Bruce Feldman's Freak list. Still need to see where his high school numbers would have ranked compared to this year's draft class. Plenty of defensive lineman to like in the next draft and probably one of the best groups coming out. Edge Princely Umanmielen - one I feel is a fit for the Colts Edge Jack Sawyer is another stud that I want to pair with Latu and Paye Edge James Pearce Jr. DT 3-tech Tyleik Williams Edge/DL Mykel Willaims - as a freshman led all FBS true freshman edge defenders LDT Kenneth Grant NT/DT Walter Nolan Edge Dani Dennis-Sutton Edge Landon Jackson Edge Patrick Payton Edge Tyler Baron DL Shermar Turner - been one of the more disruptive DTs in the SEC. Has a quick first step and body control to shoot the gaps. NT/DT Tonka Hemingway Edge Jasheen Davis NT/DT Alfred Collins. Linebackers got an interesting group of prospects to keep an eye on from the following: WLB Jack Kiser WLB Danny Stutsman LB Dasan McCullough MLB/OLB Jay Higgins LB/Edge Collin Oliver LB Eugene Asante SLB/Edge Khordae Sydnor LB Keaten Wade LB/Edge Steve Linton WLB Eric Gentry Read where some say this is a very weak safety class but got a few that seem to have potential. This draft class I noticed more excel in press/man more than zone but still very capable of playing both. Some of the defensive backs I like so far are: LCB Will Johnson CB Benjamin Morrison CB Ricardo Hallman SS Kevin Winston Jr - Blackmon signed a 1-year deal but only a 2% missed tackle rate and ranked 2nd among all safeties in 2023. SS Xavier Nwankpa - 4.39s-forty speed reminds me of Nick Cross FS Rod Moore - excellent 4.40s-forty speed FS Hunter Wohler - slower 4.52s-forty speed, if can improve his speed might be better than Rod Moore CB Tacario Davis CB Maxwell Hairston FS Jahdae Barron CB Jacobee Bryant CB Jordan Hancock CB Denver Harris SS Keon Sabb CB Malik Spencer CB Aydan White CB Tommi Hill - In 2023 had an outstanding QB rating when targeted of 38.6. With another solid year Hill could move up the draft boards. Still on the lookout of those players not listed on the primary draft boards that the Colts always seem to find hidden gems to draft. -
This is the list of Retired Colts Numbers. Peyton Manning — No. 18 Johnny Unitas — No. 19 Buddy Young — No. 22 Lenny Moore — No. 24 Art Donovan — No. 70 Jim Parker — No. 77 Raymond Berry — No. 82 Gino Marchetti — No. 89 -
By OLD FAN MAN · Posted
a lot of the recent super bowl winners had game changing tight ends bowers would have been a nice addition but i like who we got, imo an a plus draft -
Ballard has said in a recent presser that Paye needs to get better as a pass rusher, so I doubt they are getting what they want from him.
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