Jay Kirk Baseball Thread since 2017: The 2021 season, Dodgers Repeat?
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By 2006Coltsbestever · Posted
SB era (1966-2023), QBs that have been considered Great or Very Good which is better than just Good, that never won a SB as a starter: The list Fran Tarkenton - great Dan Fouts - great Dan Marino - great Jim Kelly - great Warren Moon - great Ken Anderson - very good Brian Sipe - very good Danny White - very good Randall Cunningham - very good Boomer Esiason - very good Michael Vick - very good Donovan McNabb - very good Steve McNair - very good Andrew Luck - very good Cam Newton - very good Philip Rivers - very good Matt Ryan - very good Jalen Hurts - very good Joe Burrow - very good -All of these QBs at least started in a Championship Game or SB but just came up short of winning it all. -
The problem, no. A part of the problem, most definitely. Minshew's play can be classified in a lot of ways. I'm not interested in scapegoating him, he actually did a pretty good job of filling in as the starter; I'm also not comparing him to anyone else, including Richardson. But to keep it as simple as possible, Minshew's limitations definitely held the offense back at various points of the season. We saw his ceiling, we know what he can do and what he can't do. It's really great to have a backup like Minshew. It's not so great to have a starter like Minshew for almost the entire season. -
By RollerColt · Posted
Without a doubt one of the worst years for QBs in my lifetime. -
Don't forget PJ Walker's short stint in CLE. And we even managed to get a 3-game cameo from Mitch Trubisky. I think that would be my choice for the worst starting QB last year. PIT managed to lose to two teams picking top 3 with Trubisky. It might have been the worst year for QBs that I can remember. And there is plenty to criticize Minshew about...I just take issue with things that are objectively incorrect. Like we saw what having arguably the worst QB room in the NFL looked like just two years ago. Minshew wasn't that at all. -
Especially in the NFL where players age out fast. You have to move on from some...or the very least...add to them. Keeping the same core in tact for several years is something a SB contender might entertain. But that's because they typically have a proven franchise QB and have established a very high floor. The Colts have neither right now. And even then, we see what happens to these teams. The Manning teams went from a SB to a 2-win team in two years. Not saying the Colts will suffer that fate again, but there is considerable downside. When you haven't established that floor, it seems like doing the same thing and expecting different results. And it does result in overvaluing the impact of your own draft picks. This has even trickled down into the fanbase as well. We see it every offseason with how these guys are hyped before taking a snap. I don't remember ever hearing this much about Colts rookies until Ballard got here. The content is great, but it's just so much unchecked hype.
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