So much talent left on the board at #28; might entertain the idea of moving up

[BlueShoe]

Not saying we will or absolutely have to, but Wow! It is certainly interesting to think about. 

 

Just throwing it out there; our 2nd (#48) and 3rd (#82) gets us to #31, which Seattle currently owns. 

 

Look at this talent left on the board:

 

Edited list to reflect end of first round

 

RANK	NAME	*	SCHOOL
5	Myles Jack	LB	UCLA
15	Reggie Ragland	LB	Alabama
17	Jarran Reed	DL	Alabama
19	A'Shawn Robinson	DL	Alabama
29	Kevin Dodd	DL	Clemson
32	Andrew Billings	DL	Baylor
33	Chris Jones	DL	Mississippi St.
34	Hunter Henry	TE	Arkansas
35	Emmanuel Ogbah	DL	Oklahoma St.
36	Mackensie Alexander	CB	Clemson
37	Cody Whitehair	OL	Kansas St.
38	Noah Spence	DL	Eastern Kentucky
40	Kamalei Correa	DL	Boise St.
41	Jason Spriggs	OL	Indiana
42	Sterling Shepard	WR	Oklahoma
43	Jonathan Bullard	DL	Florida
44	Michael Thomas	WR	Ohio St.
45	Vonn Bell	S	Ohio St.
46	Derrick Henry	RB	Alabama
48	Austin Johnson	DL	Penn St.
49	Su'a Cravens	LB	USC
51	Tyler Boyd	WR	Pittsburgh
52	Connor Cook	QB	Michigan St.
54	Nick Martin	OL	Notre Dame
55	Shilique Calhoun	DL	Michigan St.
57	Le'Raven Clark	OL	Texas Tech
58	Kenneth Dixon	RB	Louisiana Tech
59	Jihad Ward	DL	Illinois
60	Christian Westerman	OL	Arizona State
61	Sheldon Day	DL	Notre Dame
62	Braxton Miller	WR	Ohio St.
63	Devontae Booker	RB	Utah
64	Kendall Fuller	CB	Virginia Tech
65	Jordan Howard	RB	Indiana
66	Hassan Ridgeway	DL	Texas
67	Deion Jones	LB	LSU
68	Austin Hooper	TE	Stanford
69	Shon Coleman	OL	Auburn
70	Xavien Howard	CB	Baylor
71	Darian Thompson	S	Boise St.
72	Maliek Collins	DL	Nebraska
73	Cyrus Jones	CB	Alabama
74	Carl Nassib	DL	Penn St.
75	T.J. Green	S	Clemson
76	Kyler Fackrell	LB	Utah St.
77	Javon Hargrave	DL	South Carolina St.
78	Adolphus Washington	DL	Ohio St.
79	Bronson Kaufusi	DL	BYU
80	Jerell Adams	TE	South Carolina
81	Jordan Jenkins	LB	Georgia
82	Nick Vannett	TE	Ohio St.
83	Christian Hackenberg	QB	Penn St.
84	Pharoh Cooper	WR	South Carolina
85	Joshua Perry	LB	Ohio St.
86	Justin Simmons	S	Boston College
87	Max Tuerk	OL	USC
88	Leonte Carroo	WR	Rutgers
89	C.J. Prosise	RB	Notre Dame
90	Jaylon Smith	LB	Notre Dame
91	Joe Schobert	LB	Wisconsin
92	Sean Davis	S	Maryland
93	Jeremy Cash	S	Duke
94	Willie Henry	DL	Michigan
95	Rashard Higgins	WR	Colorado St.
96	Tyler Higbee	TE	Western Kentucky
97	Keivarae Russell	CB	Notre Dame
98	Will Redmond	CB	Mississippi St.
99	Malcolm Mitchell	WR	Georgia
100	Miles Killebrew	S	Southern Utah
101	Adam Gotsis	DL	Georgia Tech
102	Deandre Houston-Carson	S	William & Mary
103	Kentrell Brothers	LB	Missouri
104	Jerald Hawkins	OL	LSU
105	Kenyan Drake	RB	Alabama
106	Joe Dahl	OL	Washington St.
107	Paul Perkins	RB	UCLA
108	B.J. Goodson	LB	Clemson
109	Charone Peake	WR	Clemson
110	Vadal Alexander	OL	LSU
111	Isaac Seumalo	OL	Oregon St.
112	D.J. White	CB	Georgia Tech
113	Scooby Wright III	LB	Arizona

 

[Dustin]

Yeah I'd be surprised if we didn't move up. Especially since we'll be getting some comp. picks next year.

[NewColtsFan]

4 minutes ago, BlueShoe said:

Not saying we will or absolutely have to, but Wow! It is certainly interesting to think about. 

 

Just throwing it out there; our 2nd (#48) and 3rd (#82) gets us to #31, which Seattle currently owns. 

 

Look at this talent left on the board:

 

RANK	NAME	PS	SCHOOL
5	Myles Jack	LB	UCLA
15	Reggie Ragland	LB	Alabama
17	Jarran Reed	DL	Alabama
19	A'Shawn Robinson	DL	Alabama
23	Robert Nkemdiche	DL	Mississippi
27	Vernon Butler	DL	Louisiana Tech
29	Kevin Dodd	DL	Clemson
32	Andrew Billings	DL	Baylor
33	Chris Jones	DL	Mississippi St.
34	Hunter Henry	TE	Arkansas
35	Emmanuel Ogbah	DL	Oklahoma St.
36	Mackensie Alexander	CB	Clemson
37	Cody Whitehair	OL	Kansas St.
38	Noah Spence	DL	Eastern Kentucky
40	Kamalei Correa	DL	Boise St.
41	Jason Spriggs	OL	Indiana
42	Sterling Shepard	WR	Oklahoma
43	Jonathan Bullard	DL	Florida
44	Michael Thomas	WR	Ohio St.
45	Vonn Bell	S	Ohio St.
46	Derrick Henry	RB	Alabama
47	Germain Ifedi	OL	Texas A&M
48	Austin Johnson	DL	Penn St.

 

 

 

From my perspective,  with so much talent on the board,  that typically means less reason to move-up.   With that much talent, you can stay there and a good player falls to you.

 

Teams often move-up with a law of supply and demand.     Not enough talent, then you have to trade-up and go get it.

 

I hope we don't trade up....

 

[BlueShoe]

1 minute ago, NewColtsFan said:

 

From my perspective,  with so much talent on the board,  that typically means less reason to move-up.   With that much talent, you can stay there and a good player falls to you.

 

Teams often move-up with a law of supply and demand.     Not enough talent, then you have to trade-up and go get it.

 

I hope we don't trade up....

 

 

I normally would agree with you, but right now we are staring at two defensive tackles who would normally be top 15 picks. 

 

We may never get a chance to get a defensive tackle of that caliber. Remember all of those Peyton years when we never drafted high enough to get a defensive tackle?

 

We also have the best ILB still on the board. He should have went top 20. 

 

Hell, even if we want to wait a little bit and move up higher in the second, we can grab Whitehair. LOL That would be a great draft!

[Jackie Daytona]

11 minutes ago, BlueShoe said:

Not saying we will or absolutely have to, but Wow! It is certainly interesting to think about. 

 

Just throwing it out there; our 2nd (#48) and 3rd (#82) gets us to #31, which Seattle currently owns. 

 

Look at this talent left on the board:

 

RANK	NAME	PS	SCHOOL
5	Myles Jack	LB	UCLA
15	Reggie Ragland	LB	Alabama
17	Jarran Reed	DL	Alabama
19	A'Shawn Robinson	DL	Alabama
23	Robert Nkemdiche	DL	Mississippi
27	Vernon Butler	DL	Louisiana Tech
29	Kevin Dodd	DL	Clemson
32	Andrew Billings	DL	Baylor
33	Chris Jones	DL	Mississippi St.
34	Hunter Henry	TE	Arkansas
35	Emmanuel Ogbah	DL	Oklahoma St.
36	Mackensie Alexander	CB	Clemson
37	Cody Whitehair	OL	Kansas St.
38	Noah Spence	DL	Eastern Kentucky
40	Kamalei Correa	DL	Boise St.
41	Jason Spriggs	OL	Indiana
42	Sterling Shepard	WR	Oklahoma
43	Jonathan Bullard	DL	Florida
44	Michael Thomas	WR	Ohio St.
45	Vonn Bell	S	Ohio St.
46	Derrick Henry	RB	Alabama
47	Germain Ifedi	OL	Texas A&M
48	Austin Johnson	DL	Penn St.

 

 

3 of the guys you listed will mathematically be on the board for our 2nd pick, most likely more.... so why trade?

[NewColtsFan]

1 minute ago, BlueShoe said:

 

I normally would agree with you, but right now we are staring at two defensive tackles who would normally be top 15 picks. 

 

We may never get a chance to get a defensive tackle of that caliber. Remember all of those Peyton years when we never drafted high enough to get a defensive tackle?

 

We also have the best ILB still on the board. He should have went top 20. 

 

Hell, even if we want to wait a little bit and move up higher in the second, we can grab Whitehair. LOL That would be a great draft!

 

 

Me?      I want defense,  defense and more defense.....

 

But that may be just me....     I know there's a push for another OL and a RB.....

 

I'm not in that camp....

 

[BlueShoe]

Just now, Shafty138 said:

3 of the guys you listed will mathematically be on the board for our 2nd pick, most likely more.... so why trade?

 

I showed who was left in my top 48 for that reason.

[DougDew]

Save the picks.  There's no talent at the end of round one that won't be there equally at 48.

[BlueShoe]

Just now, NewColtsFan said:

 

 

Me?      I want defense,  defense and more defense.....

 

But that may be just me....     I know there's a push for another OL and a RB.....

 

I'm not in that camp....

 

 

I am not saying we should move up. I am just saying that if we do then it is certainly justified. 

[BlueShoe]

3 minutes ago, DougDew said:

Save the picks.  There's no talent at the end of round one that won't be there equally at 48.

 

I completely disagree with the bolded.

 

There are 3 top 15-20 talents on that board.

 

And if someone took a flier on Jack, and it paid off; then they might have a top 3 talent. 

 

I am okay with saving the picks though.

[COLTS449]

We should trade up for Spence. If we could do that and still keep our 3rd this year we would come out of this draft MAJOR winners. Then grab Westerman, Johnson, etc in the 3rd. Perfect.

[BlueShoe]

2 minutes ago, COLTS449 said:

We should trade up for Spence. If we could do that and still keep our 3rd this year we would come out of this draft MAJOR winners. Then grab Westerman, Johnson, etc in the 3rd. Perfect.

 

You know, I have not been a huge fan of drafting Spence in the first round. 

 

That said, I think it would be smart to move up in the early second round to get him.

[tvturner]

Really hope we can get Spence. Pass on Jack.

[Boiler_Colt]

If it were me I would be aggressive to get the player I want in round 2. We made the safe call and the right call in round 1. If we want a playmaker on D, there are plenty left and it won't cost an arm and a leg to go get them.

[Steamboat_Shaun]

41 minutes ago, BlueShoe said:

Not saying we will or absolutely have to, but Wow! It is certainly interesting to think about. 

 

Just throwing it out there; our 2nd (#48) and 3rd (#82) gets us to #31, which Seattle currently owns. 

 

Look at this talent left on the board:

 

Edited list to reflect end of first round

 

RANK	NAME	*	SCHOOL
5	Myles Jack	LB	UCLA
15	Reggie Ragland	LB	Alabama
17	Jarran Reed	DL	Alabama
19	A'Shawn Robinson	DL	Alabama
29	Kevin Dodd	DL	Clemson
32	Andrew Billings	DL	Baylor
33	Chris Jones	DL	Mississippi St.
34	Hunter Henry	TE	Arkansas
35	Emmanuel Ogbah	DL	Oklahoma St.
36	Mackensie Alexander	CB	Clemson
37	Cody Whitehair	OL	Kansas St.
38	Noah Spence	DL	Eastern Kentucky
40	Kamalei Correa	DL	Boise St.
41	Jason Spriggs	OL	Indiana
42	Sterling Shepard	WR	Oklahoma
43	Jonathan Bullard	DL	Florida
44	Michael Thomas	WR	Ohio St.
45	Vonn Bell	S	Ohio St.
46	Derrick Henry	RB	Alabama
48	Austin Johnson	DL	Penn St.
49	Su'a Cravens	LB	USC
51	Tyler Boyd	WR	Pittsburgh
52	Connor Cook	QB	Michigan St.
54	Nick Martin	OL	Notre Dame
55	Shilique Calhoun	DL	Michigan St.
57	Le'Raven Clark	OL	Texas Tech
58	Kenneth Dixon	RB	Louisiana Tech
59	Jihad Ward	DL	Illinois
60	Christian Westerman	OL	Arizona State
61	Sheldon Day	DL	Notre Dame
62	Braxton Miller	WR	Ohio St.
63	Devontae Booker	RB	Utah
64	Kendall Fuller	CB	Virginia Tech
65	Jordan Howard	RB	Indiana
66	Hassan Ridgeway	DL	Texas
67	Deion Jones	LB	LSU
68	Austin Hooper	TE	Stanford
69	Shon Coleman	OL	Auburn
70	Xavien Howard	CB	Baylor
71	Darian Thompson	S	Boise St.
72	Maliek Collins	DL	Nebraska
73	Cyrus Jones	CB	Alabama
74	Carl Nassib	DL	Penn St.
75	T.J. Green	S	Clemson
76	Kyler Fackrell	LB	Utah St.
77	Javon Hargrave	DL	South Carolina St.
78	Adolphus Washington	DL	Ohio St.
79	Bronson Kaufusi	DL	BYU
80	Jerell Adams	TE	South Carolina
81	Jordan Jenkins	LB	Georgia
82	Nick Vannett	TE	Ohio St.
83	Christian Hackenberg	QB	Penn St.
84	Pharoh Cooper	WR	South Carolina
85	Joshua Perry	LB	Ohio St.
86	Justin Simmons	S	Boston College
87	Max Tuerk	OL	USC
88	Leonte Carroo	WR	Rutgers
89	C.J. Prosise	RB	Notre Dame
90	Jaylon Smith	LB	Notre Dame
91	Joe Schobert	LB	Wisconsin
92	Sean Davis	S	Maryland
93	Jeremy Cash	S	Duke
94	Willie Henry	DL	Michigan
95	Rashard Higgins	WR	Colorado St.
96	Tyler Higbee	TE	Western Kentucky
97	Keivarae Russell	CB	Notre Dame
98	Will Redmond	CB	Mississippi St.
99	Malcolm Mitchell	WR	Georgia
100	Miles Killebrew	S	Southern Utah
101	Adam Gotsis	DL	Georgia Tech
102	Deandre Houston-Carson	S	William & Mary
103	Kentrell Brothers	LB	Missouri
104	Jerald Hawkins	OL	LSU
105	Kenyan Drake	RB	Alabama
106	Joe Dahl	OL	Washington St.
107	Paul Perkins	RB	UCLA
108	B.J. Goodson	LB	Clemson
109	Charone Peake	WR	Clemson
110	Vadal Alexander	OL	LSU
111	Isaac Seumalo	OL	Oregon St.
112	D.J. White	CB	Georgia Tech
113	Scooby Wright III	LB	Arizona

 

I'd say this list bodes well for the Colts, regardless of whether they move up or not.

[Traines]

I'd move up for Jack price (and health) dependent obviously...I also like Reed...and Billings/Spence...Robinson/Dodd..........Alexander...if certain players start to fall, and the cost of moving up to them makes sense (dependent on which guy), I'd be all for it.  I also know that we can hang back and still get a quality guy....but there are a few high quality guys IMO that are worth consideration