These 3 TE sets are fantastic!

[throwing BBZ]

This 3 TE attack is downright nasty!

 

Check out this play in the 2nd quarter with 4:40 on the clock.

 

Offensive Line set is; Allen, Mewhort, Shipley, Thornton, Cherilus, Castonzo, and Fleener.

 

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Mewhort is at LG and Allen at LT, with Doyle in the backfield as the fullback. Just please take a moment to let that digest.

 

Counting the Center, 5 Offensive Lineman are to the right of where the ball is snapped. 

 

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Thornton pulls all the way over and sets in as the LT. Allen crashes down and clears the Mike. Doyle smashes through and clears out Kendricks. 

 

This is a beautifully designed and well executed running play. 

 

One of my favorites.

 

 Great to have some go to plays. Pep ran it enough against Phl to till they had to make ajustments, so now we have tape on that and can work on some different blocking techniques against the adjustments that teams will use.

 We build tendencies for the opponents to plan for, and at some critical point later in the season we can spring some twists, play action ... Oh ya! Building an Offense!

[OffensivelyPC]

I think you're right that it hurts to lose Art, but I also think there is a philisophical gap here as well.  Our staff doesn't seem to want deviate much from 3-4 lineman and backer personnel types.  In fairness, roster limits make having a specialist, who isn't a great fit in your base scheme, tough.  However, even Art Jones at his best is not going to cause a good O-line more than an occassional disruption from the interior.  The kind of pressure that the Giants brought against NE was special, but we play so much nickel that it seems to me you could invest in a couple of interior specialists to achieve this.  Probably easier from the armchair than in real life - but we are seeing this kind of roster mix on other teams playing 3-4 base D. 

 

Bottom line - we are going to have to increase our athleticism on D over time, and I suspect I'm showing some impatience to a degree.  You have to be good at something before you can tweak it, and we first had to put the right base D in place.  Now that we have that, I suspect we'll see some of the migration toward hybrid athleticism, or at least hope so. 

Well, we can only do so much in one offseason, especially when we don't have a 2nd round pick in 2013 and then a 1st round pick in 2014.  I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but like you said, we did just switch to a 3-4 a couple of years ago and the 2012 draft was chocked full of offensive guys.  So I'm not at all worried that our philosophy has a gap so much as carrying out the philosophy to the best degree possible with the player personnel is going to take more than 2 or 3 years. But I'm with you, the smothering D I think is what we're wanting to get at, and we're getting there.  I really think we are.  But we're a couple of guys short and we've expended, almost exclusively, our higher draft picks on offensive guys and addressed defense in the offseason.  I'm not sure if that was intentional or that's just the way the chips fell, but our moves haven't been altogether bad.  I don't like pidgeoning ourselves into a hole come draft day because you're best bet is to take the best guy available, so I don't say this as an absolution, but I really hope we do address defense with our higher picks this next year.

[krunk]

I somewhat agree for passing situations we need a smaller tampa 2 type of lineup on the defensive line.  Guys that can get to the quarterback quickly and run around a little bit.  With the guys we currently have I would suggest something like Newsome, Werner, Redding or Jean Francois, and maybe somebody like Chris Carter off the edge(I think he play 4-3 DE in college).  You can put Newsome at one end and Carter at the other along with having Redding and Werner at the tackles. I think we could run a lot of stunts and twists to get to the QB, or whatever works best in that situation.  The personnel group doesn't have to be structured exactly like I listed above, but those are the guys I would use for my smaller and lighter set.

[Dr. Guildo]

Those 3 tight end sets render the fullback unnecessary. So I'd be shocked to see Mr. Havili stick around to much longer. 

[Dark Superman]

This 3 TE attack is downright nasty! Check out this play in the 2nd quarter with 4:40 on the clock. Offensive Line set is; Allen, Mewhort, Shipley, Thornton, Cherilus, Castonzo, and Fleener. Click to enlarge Mewhort is at LG and Allen at LT, with Doyle in the backfield as the fullback. Just please take a moment to let that digest. Counting the Center, 5 Offensive Lineman are to the right of where the ball is snapped.  Click to enlarge Thornton pulls all the way over and sets in as the LT. Allen crashes down and clears the Mike. Doyle smashes through and clears out Kendricks.  This is a beautifully designed and well executed running play.  One of my favorites.

If Swoope emerges as a decent TE.. Look out!

[BPM_Colt]

He would look injured.

I don't disagree.. And that is unfortunately the reason that he doesn't get the majority of the carries

[Gavin]

I don't disagree.. And that is unfortunately the reason that he doesn't get the majority of the carries

And the reason he is not a Giant right now